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EyePatchLives




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Mar 2013 02:20    Post subject:
I gave it another shot with my upgraded rig(i5 3570k in place of the told OCd Phenom II 970 4.0GHz), FPS is still too low for my liking during actual combat, not what I would consider playable.

Settings don't matter, similar FPS on high/low, not a serious improvement over my old CPU.

I'll check back in a year or so and see if the "first person shooter" part of this MMOFPS is actually playable.


"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.

Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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Imoen




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Mar 2013 19:16    Post subject:
I got the same problem with my 3570k, oc to 4.8. Often way below 60fps, I just cba then.
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KnHumle




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Apr 2013 20:27    Post subject:
Okay, so i have been playing more games recently than i normally would and i think it is about time that i actually try a mmo for the first time, until now i have stayed away because i prefer strong immersion in the games i play, and that is frankly not really possible with level of asshattery in these games i have observed.
But, because i actually like FPS multi-player game play, unlike multi-player RPG gameplay, this game sound interesting.
And again, But, is it in you mmo people's opinion worth it as a first mmo?
Is it fun even if you think grinding is about as fun as stabbing yourself with a pencil?(Not a masochist, FYI)
Can you actually get enjoyable action out of it if you are not an eagle eyed son of Horus that can shave a fly at a miles distance every time they fire a gun while wearing a blindfold?
And most importantly, are the people playing it, NOT dicks?(I'm led to believe that this varies from mmo to mmo)

If not, might i ask if there are any other Mmo FPS'es in the planning? and if so, can you recommend any?
Thanks in advance.
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mtj




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Apr 2013 20:39    Post subject:
EyePatchLives wrote:
I gave it another shot with my upgraded rig(i5 3570k in place of the told OCd Phenom II 970 4.0GHz), FPS is still too low for my liking during actual combat, not what I would consider playable.

Settings don't matter, similar FPS on high/low, not a serious improvement over my old CPU.

I'll check back in a year or so and see if the "first person shooter" part of this MMOFPS is actually playable.


Btw, play the game in fullscreen, instead of borderless windowed (if this is your case) I noticed that borderless mode made this game unplayable for me. (all settings at max)

Turning it to fullscreen fixed the issues.
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EyePatchLives




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Location: Israel.
PostPosted: Mon, 1st Apr 2013 20:57    Post subject:
Believe me, I've tried everything, the game simply isn't running smooth enough for me to enjoy the shooter part.


"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.

Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Apr 2013 20:57    Post subject:
I didn't even know there was a borderless screen option Razz
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farne




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PostPosted: Fri, 17th May 2013 14:04    Post subject:
Anyone interested in buying an european Nvidia gear up code?
5000 station cash and quite a lot of exclusive items
* Infantry Camo
* Weapon Camo
* Vehicle Camo
* Exclusive Gun
* 7 Day Squad XP Boost,
* 7 Day Squad Resource Boost
* 7 Day XP Boost
* 7 Day Resource Boost
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Badrien




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 02:35    Post subject:
farne wrote:
Anyone interested in buying an european Nvidia gear up code?
5000 station cash and quite a lot of exclusive items
* Infantry Camo
* Weapon Camo
* Vehicle Camo
* Exclusive Gun
* 7 Day Squad XP Boost,
* 7 Day Squad Resource Boost
* 7 Day XP Boost
* 7 Day Resource Boost


I'd be interested in this, more likely for trade than buy though. sent you a pm.

If there was a hump outfit is it still active?
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 06:58    Post subject:
Sadly, I've put this game aside indefinitely, due to untreated bad performance. The game is awesome and with potential to bet the best mass scale shooter ever. However, the developers insist on not working on the performance (and actively avoiding to talk about it) but rather on adding more content (continents, bases, vehicles, refinements, etc.). All that is great but what's the point if the game becomes a slideshow everytime there's 50+ people battling in the same area?
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Badrien




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 07:44    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Sadly, I've put this game aside indefinitely, due to untreated bad performance. The game is awesome and with potential to bet the best mass scale shooter ever. However, the developers insist on not working on the performance (and actively avoiding to talk about it) but rather on adding more content (continents, bases, vehicles, refinements, etc.). All that is great but what's the point if the game becomes a slideshow everytime there's 50+ people battling in the same area?


you got a good point. GU 12 and performance still leaves alot to be wished for. My main gripe with it is the lack of metagame etm. Still its a farily decent shooter and the best i got atm, a decent outfit(without any hardcore requirements) would go a logn way I figure soif anyone has any suggestions
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 10:13    Post subject:
They're gonna add the metagame (with resource management, and the resource resupplying vehicles, etc.), it's already on the roadmap. Hell they implemented the lattice system after listening to the feedback and the flow of the battles in the continents got much better. But I would prefer if they focused first on fixing the huge performance issues.

About finding an outfit, mine is still active but we're based on US West servers. The best place look is in the official forums where it's categorized by server/region:

https://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?categories/outfit-recruiting.43/
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zmed




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 10:16    Post subject:
They still haven't fixed the performance? Mad

Well, I guess they have enough payers who buy their crap to not bother with it. Kinda miss the game, but not enough to go back yet. Smile

Are aircrafts still unplayable with mouse and keyboard? Having the planes roll with mouse side movement was a really bad choice.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 10:34    Post subject:
Well, I'm not a pilot myself, I just know the basics and can take down a few enemy fighters but rarely I spawn one, mostly when our platoon lider asks us to do so. Anyway, I 've heard from experienced pilots who fly almost exclusively that the latest patches have screwed up the ESFs Razz
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Muki




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 14:03    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
They still haven't fixed the performance? Mad

Well, I guess they have enough payers who buy their crap to not bother with it. Kinda miss the game, but not enough to go back yet. Smile


I have mid range Phenom II, a series of AMD cpus that were notorious for their bad performance in Planetside 2 during 2012. Bio Lab fights were the worst, but a lot of areas capped at 20 fps while CPU usage refused to go above 50%, no matter what settings I chose.

I returned to check out things around May and to my biggest surprise, this was fixed. I run nearly maxed out graphics with 4 GB ram and a HD 7770 and it's very smooth, also very impressive looking.

Amongst other things, they are implementing the lattice system for the other continents soon for a better flow of battle and eliminating ninja caps, they've balanced the populations on most servers, and started massive advertising so a lot of new players are coming in again. Last week Miller was full, meaning all 3 continents and the VR training realm were filled. 1 month before, only Indar was really full with Esamir having a sizable populations during peak hours and Amerish permanently deserted.
They've reworked most of Indar's terrain and a lot of facilities, they're much better now than they were at release.

I get the impression that the devs are really working hard to improve the game, but their team must be small. So meaningful improvements keep coming but we must accept that they can't do everything at once.

I definitely recommend everyone to give this game a second chance. It's a one of a kind, PC only experience, an FPS untainted by EA and Activi$ion and the devs look honest enough. There are still a few issues, like the new 3 man soft buggy being tankier than Lightnings, or recently there was imbalance amongst MAXs but these are relatively minor flaws to the complete experience.

zmed wrote:
Are aircrafts still unplayable with mouse and keyboard? Having the planes roll with mouse side movement was a really bad choice.

They aren't unplayable. I also thought this but then I upped the sensitivity and gave it a try, and I started getting some kills with my uncerted ESF. It's just odd that you cannot control the camera but with good awareness and minimap settings, you can see the enemy.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 14:08    Post subject:
Yeah, I already aknowledged all the good things they've been doing for the game, the gameplay has doubled its quality since release, one could say. But that still doesn't justify why they don't even mention anything about performance or give a hint of having plans of working on it. It affects way more people than it should, even some people with 4.8Ghz Core i7's + GTX 780 and the likes. I've ben coming back periodically (like every 3 weeks or so) to check if an improvement have been made performance wise, but so far no luck. Hopefully that'll change in the not so distant future.
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zmed




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 14:11    Post subject:
I played too much space sims I guess. I just couldn't get used to the control scheme, with sideways mouse movement rolling the craft instead of turning it.

I used to hunt infantry with that AOE machine gun, but even that became weird. Never could used to the controls.
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Muki




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 18:02    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Yeah, I already aknowledged all the good things they've been doing for the game, the gameplay has doubled its quality since release, one could say. But that still doesn't justify why they don't even mention anything about performance or give a hint of having plans of working on it. It affects way more people than it should, even some people with 4.8Ghz Core i7's + GTX 780 and the likes. I've ben coming back periodically (like every 3 weeks or so) to check if an improvement have been made performance wise, but so far no luck. Hopefully that'll change in the not so distant future.


Have you tried deleting your config file?
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 19:59    Post subject:
Muki wrote:
4treyu wrote:
Yeah, I already aknowledged all the good things they've been doing for the game, the gameplay has doubled its quality since release, one could say. But that still doesn't justify why they don't even mention anything about performance or give a hint of having plans of working on it. It affects way more people than it should, even some people with 4.8Ghz Core i7's + GTX 780 and the likes. I've ben coming back periodically (like every 3 weeks or so) to check if an improvement have been made performance wise, but so far no luck. Hopefully that'll change in the not so distant future.


Have you tried deleting your config file?


You can't imagine how many times I've done that, especially after a big update is downloaded.
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HIz




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LMLM




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2013 20:11    Post subject:
Hossin looks like a big improvement. I didn't like the first map. Hossin due for a September release in a big patch.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2013 20:15    Post subject:
EyePatchLives wrote:
I gave it another shot with my upgraded rig(i5 3570k in place of the told OCd Phenom II 970 4.0GHz), FPS is still too low for my liking during actual combat, not what I would consider playable.

Settings don't matter, similar FPS on high/low, not a serious improvement over my old CPU.

I'll check back in a year or so and see if the "first person shooter" part of this MMOFPS is actually playable.


I've got a 2600k and a GTX680 and at 1200p resolution and everything else maxed out except AA even in massive battles my FPS is 30+.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2013 20:47    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
EyePatchLives wrote:
I gave it another shot with my upgraded rig(i5 3570k in place of the told OCd Phenom II 970 4.0GHz), FPS is still too low for my liking during actual combat, not what I would consider playable.

Settings don't matter, similar FPS on high/low, not a serious improvement over my old CPU.

I'll check back in a year or so and see if the "first person shooter" part of this MMOFPS is actually playable.


I've got a 2600k and a GTX680 and at 1200p resolution and everything else maxed out except AA even in massive battles my FPS is 30+.


Tnat's exactly what he means. The performance issues are completely random (but very well present and frequent), someone with a processor twice as good as yours might experience them while you don't.

I stopped playing weeks ago and plan to go back when something meaningful has been done about the performance.
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EyePatchLives




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Aug 2013 23:01    Post subject:
I gave it another shot.

FPS during heavy combat - 30
FPS when alone, away from combat - 70
FPS when only a few player models are on screen, no FX heavy action - 45

Now, I don't know what other people's standards are like, but I do not consider 30 FPS playable when it comes to first person shooters, or any shooter for that matter.

I can put up with 40-45, if it's stable, but not 30. Never. I'm not a console player. Troll Face


"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.

Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Aug 2013 23:06    Post subject:
At least you're getting 30fps in big battles. I would clean the house with that. Too frequently I find myself in the middle teens :\

Then again I play with every setting maxed out. Can't deny myself all the eye candy this game offers Very Happy
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Aug 2013 00:53    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
At least you're getting 30fps in big battles. I would clean the house with that. Too frequently I find myself in the middle teens :\

Then again I play with every setting maxed out. Can't deny myself all the eye candy this game offers Very Happy


pentium D just doesn't cut it these days Razz
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Aug 2013 00:59    Post subject:
Hahahahahah. Nice try, but yeah, my cpu isn't exactly latest gen. C2Q Q9550 with a good overclock though.

The thing is that's irrelevant in this game. Some people with my same CPU but with no overclock have zero issues. And others with core i7s overclocked @ 4.5Ghz have the exact same problems than me Razz
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crackerbear




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Aug 2013 01:04    Post subject:
You lot complaining about 30 FPS Reaction

Last time I tested out the game on my PC, I got a whopping 5 FPS on the absolute lowest settings with no one around PC Master Race
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Aug 2013 01:49    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Hahahahahah. Nice try, but yeah, my cpu isn't exactly latest gen. C2Q Q9550 with a good overclock though.

The thing is that's irrelevant in this game. Some people with my same CPU but with no overclock have zero issues. And others with core i7s overclocked @ 4.5Ghz have the exact same problems than me Razz


Well I'm downloading the game overnight. will let you know how an i5 4670k deals with the game.

I had the good old q9550 as well, but it just doesn't cut it in cpu heavy games anymore.

had the same issue with natural selection 2 dropping to teens in fights, now im never below 60 fps.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Aug 2013 02:06    Post subject:
Hmmm that's weird. I still play every new AAA game completely maxed out except for Crysis 3, but then again, not many people max that one out Razz I'm still not at the point where my CPU bottlenecks my GPU, it could happen with some specific cpu intensive game, but so far I haven't played (or been interested) in any of them. Anyways, I know that will be over soon, and I'm pretty sure The Witcher 3 could be the first game where my oc'ed cpu won't be enough anymore so I've been readying myself for an early 2014 upgrade ever since it was officially announced Very Happy
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Aug 2013 02:16    Post subject:
oh yeah its still great for majority of games, but stuff like planetside 2, ns 2, dayz and other arma 2/3 stuff, crysis 3 as you mentioned, the list of games it can't handle is rising. its especially noticeable in mp games, where you need higher fps then what can be enjoyable in sp.


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