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 Posted: Sat, 4th May 2013 01:36 Post subject: Asrock new integrated sound technology + Gigabyte aswell! |
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Soon expensive sound cards will be useless, check this out  . Tho im pretty sure this huge change will defiantely will be seen in motherboard prices.
| Quote: | | Purity Sound is a combination of several hardware, software audio solutions and technologies that will satisfy even the pickiest audiophiles. Including 7.1 CH HD audio with Realtek ALC1150 audio codec that supports 115dB SNR DAC, and two TI NE5532 amplifiers, one is a Differential Amplifier and the other one is a Premium Headset Amplifier which supports up to 600 ohm headphones. And there's also cap less Direct Drive technology, EMI shielding cover, PCB isolate shielding and support for DTS Connect. |
| Quote: | | With the new motherboards that support Purity Sound, users may expect more details with less distortion and the industry's highest SNR 115dB. It also provides the exact amount of oomph for bass heads to bounce to the beats, and Premium Headset Amplifier for headphiles to directly connect their high impedance headphones, such as 600 ohm headphones, without needing to buy another expensive audio amplifier or sound card. |
http://www.asrock.com/microsite/Intel8/
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| Posted: Sat, 4th May 2013 02:13 Post subject: |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 4th May 2013 02:47 Post subject: |
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Sorry, until I hear with my own ears the "less sound distortion", I will not get excited.
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| Posted: Sat, 4th May 2013 09:36 Post subject: |
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What I wouldn't give for a Headset Amplifier :\ I need to cranck the volume all the way up to hear stuff on my AKG K240...
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Frant
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| Posted: Sat, 4th May 2013 11:29 Post subject: |
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I'll stick with my trusty old X-Fi Platinum with ASIO v2, front panel with instrument input (guitar tele-jack) and a ton of other inputs and headphone amplifier etc.
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| Posted: Sat, 4th May 2013 17:08 Post subject: |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | What I wouldn't give for a Headset Amplifier :\ I need to cranck the volume all the way up to hear stuff on my AKG K240... |
You can get a FiiO e7 for less than a hundred bucks and sounds better than any junk onboard audio. |
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| Posted: Sat, 4th May 2013 19:20 Post subject: |
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Just waited for Spykez to recommend fiio.
I actually still want to get one myself some day ;p
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| Posted: Sat, 4th May 2013 19:36 Post subject: |
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Anyway FiiO e7 or not, this is still nice step forward on integrated sound cards.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2013 12:37 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Anyway FiiO e7 or not, this is still nice step forward on integrated sound cards. |
This. It's (hopefully) a nice improvement for like the 90% (number pulled out of my ass) of people. Can't complain with that.
If you have specific needs or wants it'll likely still won't do.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2013 13:05 Post subject: |
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I still cant get over that asrock is not crappy as it was years ago.
I have Asrock board now and its pretty good. alc892 on in and never had any problems. Sound quality is good too.
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2013 13:30 Post subject: |
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I have good quality headphones.
And a good case so It shields the sound on front jack pretty well
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2013 14:17 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | Only shure, bose or audio technica... oh and sennhiser. Those are really pro hp not for derps  |
Bullshit.
#1: Not Bose. They are way too expensive and a lot of their shit is still substandard.
#2: You even went cheap with your gaming headset. For example, Logitech's G35 and G930 cost about 100, 130 euros respectively. There's also Sennheiser's PC360 for about 140. Popular among console games, particularly in the US, are Astro's A40/A50 at 250 and 300 EUR respectively. Sennheiser's HD558 is 120 Euros and beats the living shit out of all the headsets I mentioned. And at the price of the Astro's...A Sennheiser HD449 is already easily on par with the headsets above and certainly better than your Sigma, costs about 65 EUR.
#3: your 892 is HORRIBLE. I actually do have a Creative Fatal1ty headset as a backup (which I've been using for a while because my 598's are dead  ). Compared to your Sigma, it's less bass heavy, much better trebles, but a little less powerful. My motherboard has ALC889 on board, which is much better than your 892. It is so good in fact that in terms of distortion, it has almost none, just like any X-Fi or Xonar.
Yet from the onboard chip, that Creative headset sounds very muddy, no matter how much I dick around with the settings. Stick it into my X-Fi and suddenly I get not only clearer sound, but also better bass levels. Let alone the difference with my 598's, even this cheap 25 EUR headset sounds vastly different. And on the note of the headset itself; the Sigma is way overpriced for how it sounds. You can get the same bass heavy sound you like for at least 20 EUR less. This Fatal1ty headset I've got is actually priced quite well at 25 EUR, compared to Sennheiser's HD202 (~30 EUR) the bass is a little weaker, mid-range is a bit muddier but it compensates that in its price with the mic obviously.
As for the topic itself, fuck this shit. They're gonna ask more money for this, probably not too far off what a basic X-Fi Titanium or equivalent Xonar cost. They've got amps on the cards as well, contrary to popular belief and they can actually drive something like a 598. Meanwhile, these on-board chips still won't have Creative's CMSS-3D for example (or Dolby Headphone, although I personally prefer CMSS-3D, works a little better). |
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2013 14:31 Post subject: |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2013 15:26 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | There were always compatibility issues and other problems in games. |
I've had my X-Fi for..4? 5? years, used across 3 separate system and 5 operating systems (and countless formats) and I have not experienced not a single fucking compatibility issue, blue screen or anything else. The only problem I've had with it was back in XP, where the software crashed randomly. Something tells me that has more to do with XP being XP than anything else.
That and the fact that Creative give 0 fucks about Linux, so support in Ubuntu was quite horrible. Under OS X I could get sound out of it after much fiddling (although no front jacks), but that's just because it's OS X. They won't allow any fancy shit to happen so 
| Quote: | | I tried one of my old audigy cards in current pc and the sound was worse than 892. |
Bravo, you just compared a soundcard that must've been at least EIGHT (Audigy 4 came out in '05) years old to one that's no more than 2.5 years old. If it was an Audigy 2, then go hide somewhere because that came out a decade ago.
My point is though, that "derps" are much more likely to waste a ton of money on "gaming" headsets just because they're "meant for" gaming. It's the same nonsense as console gamers often go HURRRRRR YU NID $2000 PC TO PLAY GAEMZ. It gets worse with USB headsets, of which there is not a single one with anywhere near a decent soundcard in there. And those you can't use with anything other than your PC (or sometimes consoles) either. Instead, spend the same amount of money on headphones in the same price range + spend 30-50 EUR more on an X-Fi Titanium or a Xonar DX (50 EUR) or if you're looking to save a little money, Xonar DG at 25 EUR. The X-Fi and DX are better than the DG, hence being more expensive. X-Fi Ti's are easy to find second hand as well at like 25 EUR.
Creative has the upper hand here, no matter how much ASUS fans want to make you believe otherwise. The DX and Ti are nearly identical in terms of sound quality, but the Ti has the software advantage. CMSS-3D works better than DH and Creative still support all forms of EAX in addition to DirectSound3D and OpenAL.
@ Breezer: that's the derp version of Creative's shit, they're going into a bad period again. They stopped doing CMSS-3D and only have the THX bullshit now. With that there's also a distinct drop in both amp and DAC quality
X-Fi Titanium HD was the last good one. Or well, still is. And preferred over the STX by audiophiles. |
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| Posted: Sun, 5th May 2013 15:29 Post subject: |
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I didnt got that headset because it is "gaming". I got it beause it filled all my requirements
really? cmss-3d? anyone uses that ?
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| Posted: Tue, 7th May 2013 04:19 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | It's an arse to use rear jack. Front is easier.
Case is Fractal 3000 and it is outstanding quality imo.
headphones are Sound Blaster Tactic360 Sigma (With nice addidion of amp for 360 but not using it for pc. Just jack). I know these are simple gaming headphones but I like creative sound with more bass. Sound is clear and really nice. Cannot ehar difference front from back jacks.
Tho my next headphones will be with detachable cable. These will do well for a year more or so. I really like them also for comfort
btw. Please SpykeZ I know Your opinion on these. Don't need to hear Your commentary on how shitty gaming headphones are again  Most of the so called audiophile dont even try sound blaster or other "gaming" headphones. Only shure, bose or audio technica... oh and sennhiser. Those are really pro hp not for derps
I was looking for big 50mm over ear skinalike (I hate plush earbuds so much) and at the time those were only 100$ headphones which fulfilled all my requirements and I dont regret. |
after all the hours I spent with you, the links, the reviews, and the articles, you still mention Bose  |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 7th May 2013 11:22 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | really? cmss-3d? anyone uses that ? |
You have no idea just how good it or even Dolby Headphone is. Especially when coupled with a game that already has a good sound engine to begin with (say, BF3) it gets very close to a real surround setup, much closer than any retarded headset with multiple speakers can get. Creative gets a lot of (unjust) hate, but there is not a single other company that has anything that gets near CMSS-3D; most don't even do Dolby Headphone. |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th May 2013 08:17 Post subject: |
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Nothing beats proper high quality stereo sound!
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| Posted: Fri, 10th May 2013 23:20 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Nothing beats proper high quality stereo sound! |
haha....beats...get it? |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 00:07 Post subject: |
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They sound dreadful
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 02:33 Post subject: |
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Compatibility issues with Creative soundcards? What are you, gaming on Linux or something? Because on XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, there are no issues.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 03:32 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | KillerCrocker wrote: | | really? cmss-3d? anyone uses that ? |
You have no idea just how good it or even Dolby Headphone is. Especially when coupled with a game that already has a good sound engine to begin with (say, BF3) it gets very close to a real surround setup, much closer than any retarded headset with multiple speakers can get. Creative gets a lot of (unjust) hate, but there is not a single other company that has anything that gets near CMSS-3D; most don't even do Dolby Headphone. |
I prefer Dolby Headphone to CMSS-3D.
Essence STX + K701's is my gaming setup and it's hard to beat for the money.
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Sucks big time, and they advertise it as pure hifi. Listened some Beats bass headphones which costs like 300€, they sound like complete shit compared to around 100€ Sony XB headphones 
