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I usually find Joe just annoying, but his rant is so well placed here. Sadly, I'm sure they'll still sell enough.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 15:40 Post subject: |
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IF thats true, what the fuck is going on? How can a retailer dictate the content of a game?!?
The guys at 4A Games must be pissed, i cant imagine that they wanted this, the devs are always on the short end of this stuff.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 15:43 Post subject: |
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I don't believe that it's fully accurate but I do believe that larger chains (Gamestop, BestBuy and such.) can make certain demands, especially from smaller or otherwise less established publishers.
(Unsure if Microsoft and Sony have anything to do with it, having issues with launching on Playstation or the XBox is a pretty serious problem if so but I don't think they would be that demanding.)
Similar to how a ESRB rating of AO is avoided at all costs due to the same big retail chains normally refusing to carry games with such a rating.
(AO is a bit more relaxed by now I believe, some very strong content or very sexual content is required before you hit that level but I could be wrong.)
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 15:50 Post subject: |
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Yeah, it's odd if you think of this as a game, but if you think of it as an "entertainment product" then it's not without precedent. US cinemas, for instance, used to have a lot of power with the content of films, since anything that was rated NC17 was seen as damaging to box office takings.
Back to Last Light, I'm disgusted but not surprised - since the whole kerfuffle with Game (or whoever) stopping the pre-ordering of Bethesda games on Steam (even though they used Steamworks), it's been fairly obvious that retailers have no interest in the consumer, beyond taking them for as much cash as possible. Actually kind of why I like Steam - they're at least not wholly anti-consumer, as can be seen with their pre-order discount for Last Light if you already own 2033.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 15:54 Post subject: |
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Yeah digital distribution has a lot of potential and is growing fast though it seems to be more and more aligned to a certain "platform", Steam mainly but Ubisoft and EA have their own solutions now and more might follow later.
(I don't really mind Steam that much, rules are strict of course but it's fairly secure and constantly updated.)
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 16:14 Post subject: |
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| Ishkur123 wrote: | IF thats true, what the fuck is going on? How can a retailer dictate the content of a game?!?
The guys at 4A Games must be pissed, i cant imagine that they wanted this, the devs are always on the short end of this stuff. |
"Either you give us exclusive preorder content, or we will advertize and put in the primary selves, the products of others. Your choice  "
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 16:19 Post subject: |
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In before Sin just to save him the hassle:
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 16:45 Post subject: |
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lolSteamforums. It's like Reddit or 9gag, basically just a shithole full of trolls and morons.
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tonizito
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| lolozaur wrote: | posted there  |
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 17:54 Post subject: |
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I will pirate this GAME SO MUCH! 
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Haha, fuck...I got banned for my comment in that thread. 
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 19:04 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 19:10 Post subject: |
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It's once again just sad to see that this shit will never change because of all these retards out there. It will only get worse.. and those "entitlement" yellers are the tip of the shitstack.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 19:12 Post subject: |
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| m3th0d2008 wrote: | | It's once again just sad to see that this shit will never change because of all these retards out there. It will only get worse.. |
Entitlement.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 19:19 Post subject: |
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Reading the lines of this review, and between them, it seems they pretty much derped the title in its second iteration.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 19:21 Post subject: |
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I wouldn't think much of any review that claims how Metro 1 had "survival elements". It was a rather straightforward shooter IMO.
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| Posted: Sat, 11th May 2013 19:37 Post subject: |
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| kryon wrote: |
Reading the lines of this review, and between them, it seems they pretty much derped the title in its second iteration. |
Yes, but, you know "reviewers  ". Let's find out on our own.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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