Metro 2034 : Last Light
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arik22
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 17:46    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Now tell us what's so positive about being a fan(atic)? Cool Face


I think area of fanaticism has been neglected from most psychology studies, so it would make in interesting topic for a psychology paper. When you think constant game development of information and information technology the thought wonders if it's clearly related to a simple fandom or beyond control Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 17:49    Post subject:
Gotta finish Metro 2033 fast so I can enjoy the boobies - I simply enjoyed being robbed of all my money in M2033 Very Happy Much more rewarding this time !


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 17:52    Post subject:
TheZor wrote:
Gotta finish Metro 2033 fast so I can enjoy the boobies - I simply enjoyed being robbed of all my money in M2033 Very Happy Much more rewarding this time !


From a sexual standpoint or recreation ? Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 18:04    Post subject:
so many gfx issues here...hmm...this reminds of another game...hmm...yep Rage! Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 18:13    Post subject:
arik22 wrote:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Now tell us what's so positive about being a fan(atic)? Cool Face


I think area of fanaticism has been neglected from most psychology studies, so it would make in interesting topic for a psychology paper. When you think constant game development of information and information technology the thought wonders if it's clearly related to a simple fandom or beyond control Smile


Then I would definitely read Henry Jenkins' Book: Fans, Bloggers, Gamers and Consumers. http://www.amazon.com/Fans-Bloggers-Gamers-Consumers-Digital/dp/0814742858/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1368634116&sr=1-6

Jenkins tries to nail down fandom in a contemporary sense and tries to dissect it. Alot of great bits on fanaticism.

Also try to get a copy of Digital Culture, Play, and Identity: A World of Warcraft Reader.
In a vareity of scientific fields a couple of researchers are trying to get an academic grip on WoW. http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Culture-Play-Identity-Warcraft%C2%AE/dp/0262516691
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 18:19    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
makes the game rather tricky but I made it all the way to the swamp now so it's doable.


I'm sure it's doable, everything is doable but IMO it isn't enjoyable, it doesn't allow for planning ahead. I like to decide what weapon I'm equiping in certain situations depending on ammo left and if it's CQ or open spaces, and depending on enemies as well.

For me it's simply broken atm. I wish they would fix that soon Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 18:20    Post subject:
did anyone actually try take a peak at the girls' dressing room behind the curtains where the girl's shadow shows her changing clothes? You can actually see boobies but it's tricky.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 18:34    Post subject:
Why you just don't go to the strip room?
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 18:37    Post subject:
warriormax wrote:
Why you just don't go to the strip room?


Strip room? Not there yet I guess. I'm talking about the room right after the show.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 19:08    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
warriormax wrote:
Why you just don't go to the strip room?


Strip room? Not there yet I guess. I'm talking about the room right after the show.

soon, Venice Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 19:08    Post subject:
Is it me or does the game has some stuttering? It's running 60-80FPS constantly, yet it still stutters.


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 19:23    Post subject:
The game has some rather severe (severe in my opinion anyway) stuttering at times.
Nothing as bad as 2033 but it's still there, yes.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 19:42    Post subject:
Tried the game...can't get into it...its just not my type of game...too dark and gritty for my liking although it definately is a good game...just not for me but it looks pretty damn nice visually.

My gear in my sig below runs the game nice and smooth at all highest graphic settings...i believe these metro games make use of extra threads/cores. I believe its cpu dependent from what i remember reading about the last metro game before this new metro game but i also did a few tests on my own last night.

I just built another rig for a friend of mine which he will be in town to pick it up this weekend so i been tweaking his new machine i just built for him....exact same gear as mine except his rig has a 3570k cpu Overclocked at 4.4ghz compared to my 4.6ghz with my 3770k....i get almost 21 more frames per second on my rig... i lowered my 3770k down to 4.4ghz to match the clock of the 3570k and i had a 12 frames per second increase over the other rig with the 3570k both at the same clock speed...both machines using the same Sapphire 7970 Dual-X cards with same OC's...leads me to believe this game is very much cpu dependent and does make use of the extra threads.

Maybe this is just another sign that extra threads and cores will be more useful in future games.


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 19:47    Post subject:
laudicina66 wrote:
Tried the game...can't get into it...its just not my type of game...too dark and gritty for my liking although it definately is a good game...just not for me but it looks pretty damn nice visually.


The theme is not my cup of tea either. I wouldn't play tihs kind of games, but since FPS games are so rare nowadays, I want my FPS fix. So, I'm playing in windowed mode, listening some good music in background, to lessen that dark/gritty atmosphere. It's working great, this way I get to enjoy the shooting and gameplay without getting too immersed into the dark claustrophobic world that is Metro Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 19:59    Post subject:
Aww Yeah I guess you guys never pkayed the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games (or played them while listening to a Katie Perry live concert) and would never play them Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 20:03    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
Aww Yeah I guess you guys never pkayed the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. games (or played them while listening to a Katie Perry live concert) and would never play them Razz
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tolanri




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 20:03    Post subject:
I actually did play Stalker for a while. And quit for same reason, but there wasn't lack of other FPS games at that time. Anyway I don't like this kind of themes, it doesn't really add to my mood. And it's not because I'd be too scared.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 20:05    Post subject:
Those games are not suppose to be scary really. Just atmospheric in this very special dirty way.

Still those underground laboratories in Stalker are scarier than whole metro Last Light Very Happy


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tolanri




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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 20:08    Post subject:
Yep, Metro 2033 isn't scary at all so far (I'm about halfway through). It's just the atmosphere in general that makes me feel uneasy if I let immerse myself too much into game. It's hard to describe really Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 20:12    Post subject:
laudicina66 wrote:
I believe its cpu dependent from what i remember reading about the last metro game before this new metro game but i also did a few tests on my own last night.


Not really.

http://www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/metro_2033_performance_guide,9.html

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Metro 2033 was designed entirely to rape your GPU. CPU cores or frequency did not matter at all. I believe Last Light is the same. (Of course with PhysX not activated to run on the CPU. With it enabled results will be different).


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 20:26    Post subject:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=558062

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-15-jason-rubin-metro-last-light-is-the-triumph-of-an-underdog <- click for more

Metro: Last Light was developed under awful conditions (Armed thugs, smuggling, more)

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Let's be honest: 4A was never playing on a level field. The budget of Last Light is less than some of its competitors spend on cut scenes, a mere 10 percent of the budget of its biggest competitors.


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And all of this is compounded by the conditions this Ukrainian team works under in Kiev. The entire 4A studio would fit easily in the (underutilized) gym at EA Los Angeles' offices.


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At the same time, 4A's staff sat on folding wedding chairs, literally elbow to elbow at card tables in what looks more like a packed grade school cafeteria than a development studio.


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When 4A needed another dev kit, or high-end PC, or whatever, someone from 4A had to fly to the States and sneak it back to the Ukraine in a backpack lest it be "seized" at the border by thieving customs officials. After visiting the team I wanted to buy them Aeron office chairs, considered a fundamental human right in the west. There were no outlets in the Ukraine, and our only option was to pack a truck in Poland and try to find an "expediter" to help bribe its way down to Kiev. We gave up not because this tripled the cost, but because we realized that the wider Aeron chairs would require spreading out people and computers, which would lead to extra desks, and that ultimately would have required bigger offices. Yes, really.

I truly enjoyed Far Cry 3, which deserved its great reviews. But how many times did Ubisoft Montreal lose power for hours or days during development? Power outages are the norm for 4A. All developers have deadlines, but I know of few that had to bring in construction generators to be able to work the weekend before final submission because an extra day meant missing shelf dates by weeks. Montreal is cold, but when it gets cold in Kiev it's different. That's because the government provides all of the heating through a central coal burning facility that pipes hot water to homes and offices. Unfortunately, it breaks down reliably a few times a year for a week at a time. Then 4A works in their parkas and struggles to keep their fingers warm in temperatures well below freezing. That is unless it snows and they get stuck home for a few days at a time because snow clearing isn't up to Western standards.


From the ex-CEO of THQ; their former publisher.

I SAID DAMN


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"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 20:28    Post subject:
PUSH..löl Devil Troll

ahhhh great... just like the last metro this got an resolution or should i say proportional problem....(Aspect ratio it is)

tried allmost everything now, no matter what i try, gpu scaling, monitor scaling, desktop res same as ingame, etc etc, nothing helps... Mind Is Full Of Fuck

Look at screens (spoiler....)everything is squashhhyyyyy....

 Spoiler:
 


does anyone else have this and knows how to work around this problem???
i really wanna play that Game....but i cant like that,. it makes my Brain hurt..

Greetz


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 20:36    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=558062

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-15-jason-rubin-metro-last-light-is-the-triumph-of-an-underdog <- click for more

Metro: Last Light was developed under awful conditions (Armed thugs, smuggling, more)

Quote:
Let's be honest: 4A was never playing on a level field. The budget of Last Light is less than some of its competitors spend on cut scenes, a mere 10 percent of the budget of its biggest competitors.


Quote:
And all of this is compounded by the conditions this Ukrainian team works under in Kiev. The entire 4A studio would fit easily in the (underutilized) gym at EA Los Angeles' offices.


Quote:
At the same time, 4A's staff sat on folding wedding chairs, literally elbow to elbow at card tables in what looks more like a packed grade school cafeteria than a development studio.


Quote:
When 4A needed another dev kit, or high-end PC, or whatever, someone from 4A had to fly to the States and sneak it back to the Ukraine in a backpack lest it be "seized" at the border by thieving customs officials. After visiting the team I wanted to buy them Aeron office chairs, considered a fundamental human right in the west. There were no outlets in the Ukraine, and our only option was to pack a truck in Poland and try to find an "expediter" to help bribe its way down to Kiev. We gave up not because this tripled the cost, but because we realized that the wider Aeron chairs would require spreading out people and computers, which would lead to extra desks, and that ultimately would have required bigger offices. Yes, really.

I truly enjoyed Far Cry 3, which deserved its great reviews. But how many times did Ubisoft Montreal lose power for hours or days during development? Power outages are the norm for 4A. All developers have deadlines, but I know of few that had to bring in construction generators to be able to work the weekend before final submission because an extra day meant missing shelf dates by weeks. Montreal is cold, but when it gets cold in Kiev it's different. That's because the government provides all of the heating through a central coal burning facility that pipes hot water to homes and offices. Unfortunately, it breaks down reliably a few times a year for a week at a time. Then 4A works in their parkas and struggles to keep their fingers warm in temperatures well below freezing. That is unless it snows and they get stuck home for a few days at a time because snow clearing isn't up to Western standards.


From the ex-CEO of THQ; their former publisher.

I SAID DAMN

Nice read. In the meantime fat joe is sitting on his chair raging the interwebz how developers suck at coding while he himself never did anything noteworthy in his life


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 20:36    Post subject:
Check this out, it indeed does use CPU pretty intensively.

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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 20:41    Post subject:
Vikerness wrote:
Nice read. In the meantime fat joe is sitting on his chair raging the interwebz how developers suck at coding while he himself never did anything noteworthy in his life


Did you just pull the "if you can't do better" card? Facepalm Laughing

@consolitis

Thank you, indeed that was an interesting read. Just basically reconfirms what I always thought; life is pretty fucking shitty in the Ukraine Sad


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my AMD is fucked... Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 21:02    Post subject:
i3 is giving the same fps than FX-8350 Laughing. This is where you really see how big difference clock vs clock performance is on intel vs amd. Game seems to use 4 cores and also can use HT.
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 21:10    Post subject:
polosistealth wrote:
my AMD is fucked... Sad

Aww Yeah
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PostPosted: Wed, 15th May 2013 21:24    Post subject:
I nearly fell off my chair laughing when

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