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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 13:19    Post subject:
Kingston SSDs are rock solid, my very first V100+ 64GB is still on brothers rig and running flawlessy.
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sausje
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 13:25    Post subject:
Same with Vertex 3, mine still alive and kicking after intensive (meaning more then most people around here, that's for sure) usage already Razz


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 14:39    Post subject:
Bot my Vertex 2E and Vertex 4 are working the same as the day I bought them. Whenever I need to reinstall Windows on the V4 I do a secure erase to reset every single MLC cell which puts the drive into "brand new" state with performance at top. Not sure it's really necessary since the V4 is rather special in the way it's GC works though. But a secure erase is just a single write cycle/clear so it doesn't hurt to do one. All Sandforce and driver with other controllers should always be secure erased when a reinstall is needed. They tend to become a little slower/less effective with time.

Most manufacturer offer SE-tools, otherwise there are generic tools that send the SE-command. Some drives (crucial M4 for instance) doesn't even support secure erase for some weird reason. I guess using a tool that writes zeroes to every cell is the only way to emulate secure erase.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 14:40    Post subject:
Hmm. It's either the HyperX or a, surprisingly, cheaper 120GB V300. OR! A second 570 for my rig. I'm actually leaning towards the 570, to be honest, a pair of these would put paid to any performance woes I seem to constantly have, though it would be tight on my TX650v2.
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 15:36    Post subject:
I really recommend bigger PSU for GTX 570 SLI, i had HX 650w when i had GTX 570 SLI, it was not enough for overclocked 2500K + 900 core 570s, was just barely enough for Stock 570s. Better be safe than sorry Very Happy. Also what goes for SSD, just get any SSD that is reliable, dont watch the speeds, hell even the very first SSD is as good in general usage than the best (unless you have 2x or more SSDs and you transfer files between them, then you are gonna see very big difference).
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 15:51    Post subject:
I can't get a larger PSU, the only reason I have *any* money at all is because of some birthday gifts. I have no income and no way of getting any more money whatsoever at all period Sad I've got the TX650v2 and Phaedrus' seems to think that's sufficient - besides, I'm not clocking the 570s. My EVGA 570 *can't* be clocked, just my luck to receive a dodgy piece of shit that BSODs when trying to OC it, so these would be stock.
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 16:01    Post subject:
Im pretty sure they could be overclocked with increased voltage, but yeah it will be enough for stock 570s, and i bet you are not running your i5 2500K @ 5ghz like i was (1.4V) and the cards were 1.175V if i remember correctly what the maximum for them was in Afterburner Very Happy
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Stige




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 16:04    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
I really recommend bigger PSU for GTX 570 SLI, i had HX 650w when i had GTX 570 SLI, it was not enough for overclocked 2500K + 900 core 570s, was just barely enough for Stock 570s. Better be safe than sorry Very Happy. Also what goes for SSD, just get any SSD that is reliable, dont watch the speeds, hell even the very first SSD is as good in general usage than the best (unless you have 2x or more SSDs and you transfer files between them, then you are gonna see very big difference).


5GHz 2500K+Crossfire HD7950 1100/1350 @ 620W \o/ (Antec HCG-620)

Shame older cards are so power hungry :l
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 16:05    Post subject:
Haha, naw Smile My 25k is currently at 4Ghz/1.20v (Winter speeds are 4.5Ghz/1.35v) and 570 is stock. I'm still toying with the idea, but seeing as how I won't get any money for the foreseeable future... the (frankly enormous) performance boost from a 2nd 570 sounds too good to pass up.
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sausje
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 16:09    Post subject:
i'm fine with my 650w and dual 6870, you should be fine aswell


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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 16:43    Post subject:
A 570 eats quite a bit more saus, can't compare.

You'll be fine though Sabin, that PSU can handle that easily.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 16:44    Post subject:
Thanks guys
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sausje
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 17:09    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
A 570 eats quite a bit more saus, can't compare.

You'll be fine though Sabin, that PSU can handle that easily.


Really? I thought the newer ones actually used less power Neutral

Edit: ouch indeed, 83 watt difference:|



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PostPosted: Fri, 10th May 2013 17:20    Post subject:
No, newer ones do not use less power, they'll do more with the power they have.

Plus, the 570 is still a big chip (it's more than twice as big as yours).
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Richard99




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th May 2013 06:05    Post subject:
Just got a Samsung 840 500GB for £158 Everything Went Better Than Expected Fuck Yeah Me Gusta So Much Win Pffchh Awesome
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Stige




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PostPosted: Sun, 19th May 2013 11:24    Post subject:
Richard99 wrote:
Just got a Samsung 840 500GB for £158 Everything Went Better Than Expected Fuck Yeah Me Gusta So Much Win Pffchh Awesome


Dat price Surprised

318€ cheapest here lol
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th May 2013 11:41    Post subject:
Richard99 wrote:
Just got a Samsung 840 500GB for £158 Everything Went Better Than Expected Fuck Yeah Me Gusta So Much Win Pffchh Awesome


Mother of god! Very Happy What a score, congrats Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th May 2013 14:48    Post subject:
840 or 840 pro ?
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sausje
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PostPosted: Sun, 19th May 2013 14:55    Post subject:
€100,- discount if it's the normal 840, not bad Very Happy


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Richard99




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th May 2013 00:05    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
840 or 840 pro ?


840, the pro is 512mb

its only cheap cos...
1: i can claim the VAT back (20%)
2: samsung are going £50 cash back on the 840 500gb

Also for comparison i paid £291 for a 160gb Intel x25-m back in 2009
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Mon, 20th May 2013 01:27    Post subject:
And i thought i got nice deal on 180GB Intel 520, only 119€ Very Happy. Bought it for my Ultrabook.
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Aug 2013 18:09    Post subject:
I just joined the SSD club bitches.

256GB samsung 840 pro. 200 euros here in shit croatia.

yarring acronis true image now so i can clone my win7 install and then its speedy gonzales time.

The damn thing is like a credit card. I thought i was sold an empy box Laughing


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Stige




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Aug 2013 21:53    Post subject:
Free tip for people: IF you can still find the Samsung 830, buy that instead of the 840.

The 840 Pro is overpriced as fuck considering it has pretty much same specs as the 830 and the normal 840 is worse than the 830 lol

What were they thinking... apart from profit ofocurse.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Aug 2013 22:04    Post subject:
Had a Vertex 3 128gb for a year and half. Ran good, never had any problems. Sold it off and bought a Sandisk Extreme 2 256gb as I needed the extra room, and the overall performance of the Extreme 2 is outstanding along with being reliable.
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Aug 2013 22:12    Post subject:
WOW.

okay windows boots so fast.. you see the gigabyte logo, then black screen for 1 second or less., then im in windows :drool:

then i booted up natural selection 2. Previously, just entering the game would be like 10 seconds of chirping on the old 10K rpm raptor. Now its, double click, main menu :drool:

The game load, used to be around 1.30 seconds of constant hard drive tear. Now its like, loading screen, then instantly precaching. 2 seconds later im in game.

I will measure exact time since i have the same win7 install still on the raptor.

But the difference is just astronomical.



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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Aug 2013 23:02    Post subject:
Stige wrote:
Free tip for people: IF you can still find the Samsung 830, buy that instead of the 840.

The 840 Pro is overpriced as fuck considering it has pretty much same specs as the 830 and the normal 840 is worse than the 830 lol

What were they thinking... apart from profit ofocurse.

as with most of your advices, terrible. 840pro is way faster than 830. Drowning_witch made a good choice, congrats, and Stige just sounds bitter he bought 830 and 1 month later 840 pro was out. Laughing
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Aug 2013 23:08    Post subject:
Gonna buy 500GB Samsung 540 EVO once it comes to Finland, its very nicely priced, gonna replace my both SSD drives with it.
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Aug 2013 23:46    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:

as with most of your advices, terrible. 840pro is way faster than 830. Drowning_witch made a good choice, congrats, and Stige just sounds bitter he bought 830 and 1 month later 840 pro was out. Laughing



Very Happy thx man, im really happy with the purchase.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 24th Aug 2013 23:50    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
Gonna buy 500GB Samsung 540 EVO once it comes to Finland, its very nicely priced, gonna replace my both SSD drives with it.


The EVO series are incredible, I've been drooling over those like a lobotomy patient for ages now Very Happy
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Stige




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PostPosted: Sun, 25th Aug 2013 01:07    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
Stige wrote:
Free tip for people: IF you can still find the Samsung 830, buy that instead of the 840.

The 840 Pro is overpriced as fuck considering it has pretty much same specs as the 830 and the normal 840 is worse than the 830 lol

What were they thinking... apart from profit ofocurse.

as with most of your advices, terrible. 840pro is way faster than 830. Drowning_witch made a good choice, congrats, and Stige just sounds bitter he bought 830 and 1 month later 840 pro was out. Laughing


I have had this for propably a year or so now.

840 Pro has 20MB/s higher read and and was it 40MB/s higher write? And way higher price than a 830 does, though can't seem to find 830s for sale anymore so can't really compare now but a 840 Pro is a good 30€ higher currently than what I paid for my 830 back then.

So not really no, I don't regret having a 830 the slightest, I'm actually glad I bought it when I did or I might have fallen to that same marketing trick that many others have without proper reading considering how "shit" the 840 Basic is and how overpriced the 840 Pro is compared to a 830.
Can you really say you would notice any difference at all with extra 20-40MB/s on read/write? I doubt it, and it's definitely not worth an extra 30€.

The EVO on the other hand seems to be damn good value for money, costing like 25-30€ less than the 840 Pro does lol and being FASTER at the same time.
Makes me wonder why anyone would even look at buying a 840 of any other sort than EVO.
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