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DABhandUK
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005 10:47    Post subject:
Your very stuck in your ideas Jenni, even with the evidence presented.

If the gaming channel was so successful why close it? Its nothing to do with money, as they are in profit last 9 months. So why close a service, if you say what you said, which is making money?

If Telewest and NTL merge in the forsee-able future then I will personally eat my shoes.

If creditors were involved, they wouldnt try and sell something that is recording profit, so it seems your "information from sources" is not credible.

Why cant you accept the facts and truths?

Have you even called them to ask about the 50mb line in 2007?
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005 11:35    Post subject:
I'm not the one stuck on my ideas, because that would be you.

I've had long discussions with the guy who ran their gaming centre and he said the money went elsewhere. That's the reason they closed it. I can give you his contact details if you want.


I've put plenty of evidence forward about a possible merger, but you've chosen to ignore it.

I don't need to phone them, I found some evidence of them bringing in a 50mb line.


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DABhandUK
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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005 11:50    Post subject:
I havent chosen to ignore what you have said at all, ive answered what you said and also checked what you have said, so I did not dismiss straight away, some points you said is very much correct, but most is not.

What your friend has said is weird, money was made and money was put into the company, the gaming channel was a part of Telewest, just like the TV, Phone, Broadband+Dialup, they all make money and go into the main business account.

What I was told by my local rep who I deal with, that the gaming channel did not meet the required amount of subscriptions to met with targets over a 6 month period and was closed due to this.

May I also suggest you check their financial reports on their business site to see the difference from last year to this years figures, you will see a huge difference, they have been making profits unlike compared to last years were the loses per quarter were over 100million
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stopit33




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 20:32    Post subject: blueyonder
blueyonder will NEVER cap there service, if they do merge with NTL and that's a bit if now I think NTL will have to do the uncapping, there's a new guy in town called BULLDOG and that should keep the cappers quiet
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hpor




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 21:14    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
Yes Midget. But as I said, NTL and Telewest are joining forces as they're so heavily in debt. NTL has a 10mb line and it's capped. I would say that Telewest will apply that once they merge.
if and when telewest merge with NTL they have to wait 12 months b4 they can cap it
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 22:49    Post subject:
Bulldog is a small player in the cable market and it's not that good by all accounts. hpor is correct in saying that they will have to wait for at least twelve months before they can apply a cap, due to the current contracts.


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stopit33




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PostPosted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 23:15    Post subject: Bulldog
mates got Bulldog loves it never has a problem in cheltenham
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pickle
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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Sep 2005 08:21    Post subject: Bulldog Vs AOl
Bulldog is a Cable & Wireless company - big enuff to handle a network I think.

I could only get BT based services as Telewest decided to stop laying cable at the end of the road... But I am glad they did as I would have been stuck in a dearer & slower contract now.

Bulldog came along & I dumped AOL - they were very good compared to BT which was all the choice I had, but any minor technical benefits started dropping once they switched to Asian call-centres.

Getting 8meg unlimited for the same £s as AOLs 2meg. No problems in 7+ months.

I heard from a telephone engineer that cables used since 1980 by BT will handle 100mbps so I think one day it'll get here, just a question of when & how much we can be ripped off in good ol' Rip-Off Britain.
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RoadRunner12




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2005 19:33    Post subject:
Bulldog are Cable & Wireless too? That's interesting. As I said earlier, Telewest/Blue Yonder are Cable & Wireless too as that's where the Direct Debit for my broadband bill comes from. So effectively they're the same company, and when the NTL merger goes through I think they will be a serious threat to the competition providing they keep giving unlimited access at a good price.

I thought this was amusing. How many times can you find the word unlimited on the Blue Yonder services page? Check it out for yourself.

http://www.blueyonder.co.uk/blueyonder/getContent.jspx?page=unlimited_broadband


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RoadRunner12




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2005 19:49    Post subject: Re: Bulldog Vs AOl
pickle wrote:
I heard from a telephone engineer that cables used since 1980 by BT will handle 100mbps so I think one day it'll get here, just a question of when & how much we can be ripped off in good ol' Rip-Off Britain.


I agree completely. The technology that is given over for public use is years behind the actual level they could implement if neccessary. It makes good business sense to give the public access to each level of for as long as possible to maximise profits and control the flow of technology. This isn't just in Britan though, it's the same in every country.

Most of the telecomms network in the UK is still owned by BT anyhow and they rent it out to companies like Telewest and NTL. I spoke to my Uncle the other day who works in the broadband department at BT and he tells me that they have been constantly upgrading the network and that home connection speeds similar to those of Europe and Japan arent as far off as you might think.


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Fri, 23rd Sep 2005 16:54    Post subject:
Dear Mrs Stevens

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The new speeds will be rolled out region by region from the end of September until early 2006.

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The price reduction will show for all elite customers, on their bill for November to December services.







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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005 00:15    Post subject:
DABhandUK wrote:

If Telewest and NTL merge in the forsee-able future then I will personally eat my shoes.


Lets hope you haven't Tread in Something unfortunate Sad
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005 05:57    Post subject:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4304008.stm
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Britain's biggest cable company NTL is to take over rival operator Telewest for about $6bn (£3.4bn).

The deal will create the UK's dominant cable TV company, enabling it to compete more effectively with market leading pay-TV broadcaster BSkyB.

Analysts have been expecting a tie-up between NTL and Telewest for some time.

Both companies are recovering from a downturn, which saw NTL emerge from bankruptcy protection in 2003 and Telewest undergo restructuring.

Although NTL and Telewest's operations are focused in the UK, shares in both companies are traded in New York.

By the close of Monday's session, NTL has lost 1.2% to $65.97, while Telewest had added 1% to $23.17.

According to these figures, both companies have a market capitalisation of about $5.6bn.

'Competitive force'

The combined company will have TV, telephone and internet customers in about 5 million UK households, compared with BSkyB's 8 million subscribers.
The new group will also rival BT Group as Britain's second-largest residential telephone company.

The takeover will create "a new competitive force in the communications and entertainment sectors in the UK", said NTL chief executive Simon Duffy.

Mr Duffy will become chief executive of the combined group, while Telewest chief Barry Elson will step down once the merger has been completed.

"We are very pleased to recommend this value-enhancing combination with NTL to our shareholders," said Telewest chairman Anthony Stenham.

Greater reach

NTL said it was too early to speculate how many jobs may be cut under the deal. The company employs about 10,000 people, while Telewest has 8,400 staff in the UK.

The takeover will see NTL take control of Telewest's key Flextech digital TV business, which includes UKTV, a joint venture with the BBC.

Telewest had put Flextech up for sale, and potential suitors included BSkyB and European broadcaster RTL.

NTL said it would pay $23.93 a share for Telewest, funding about two-thirds of the deal with cash. The company will also take on $3bn of Telewest debt.

"Underpinned by a national strategy and increased scale and reach, this transaction positions the enlarged company for greater success than either company could have achieved alone," said NTL chairman James Mooney.


DABhandUK wrote:
Your very stuck in your ideas Jenni, even with the evidence presented.


Why cant you accept the facts and truths?


Ahh Dabhand. You had better get the knife and fork out.


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005 13:50    Post subject:
Just to add

There is no such referance made to capping lines.


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Oct 2005 14:09    Post subject:
No, you're right. But as NTL is now the parent company they may well impliment it I can't see them charging one set of customers with a band and letting another set have an unlimited line.Especially considering that they will all be under one company banner. Don't forget that NTL as it stands today is a makeup of 20 small companies bought out a number of years ago. Some of those companies have amazing lines and some of them are as much use as wet string to carry data. When they were bought out NTL didn't say "well the companies with great networks have bandwidth to spare so we won't limit the downloads". It will be the same with Telewest, it has a great network with a hell of a lot of bandwidth unused.


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DABhandUK
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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Oct 2005 11:08    Post subject:
Yes Jenni I know..

I got told before it was announced, that TW group accepted a bigger bid from NTL..

But there is stipulations, that current TW customers have to be given whatever service they have for 2 yrs minimum without a price increase.


So at least we have 2 yrs before they ruin it all Sad
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Oct 2005 12:31    Post subject:
Yeah it does sound bad doesn't it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 10th Oct 2005 22:57    Post subject:
wow u lot like to argue and mong a bit don't u.

the point is more when do i get me 10mb damn it
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DABhandUK
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PostPosted: Wed, 12th Oct 2005 12:04    Post subject:
lol look whos moaning Razz
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