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fisk
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Thanks for that review upstart, I'll pass on this one now for sure.
(The deciding factor was that you mentioned Soldiers, and said this title was worse).
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 11:46 Post subject: |
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just being curious: what about getting the DEV rel and using the PDX keygen? or is there anything missing completely from the DEV release? if it's just the used key i'd rather stick with a version that doesn't need the region fix...
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ollax
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 12:31 Post subject: |
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Ive got the Earth 2160DVD release with the region and register fix!
And now i got the EARTH.2160.PROPER-DEViANCE. I thin everyone should just go for the proper, since the otherone is to much hastle!
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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-=Cartoon=-
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 15:26 Post subject: |
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weird game..
not bad.. not great... does not seem like anything special... i dispise sci fi shit.. a real style game using this engine could be awsome...
HOWEVER.. the graphics are prolly the best in any RTS of this nature to date...
The game just does "feel" right...
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ollax
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 15:41 Post subject: |
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I like this!, I think the graphics are awsome and i have no problems running it on high settings. I do have a couple of q though.
How do i change the serial? I want to play lan, do i have to uninstall and then use the paradox keygen or what? ( i installed the deviance version) Altough i have the nogroup rel with the fixes also.
Second! When i do reserach: Rocket tech for instance it say waiting for research and nothing happens! What did i miss? I want my freaking missiles!
Of all the things i've lost, i miss my mind the most!
"Ozzy Osbourne"
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 15:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 16:01 Post subject: |
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I'm not realy impressed with how the game looks, they are nice from a tecnical point of view, but rather uninspired. Mars looks kinda dull I think, just plain textures all over.
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 16:02 Post subject: |
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| upstart_69 wrote: | | I am not sure what to think about all the positive reviews on this game. Maybe I just havent played it long enough-just started the second mission or maybe just the multiplayer aspect is kick-ass, which I havent tried out yet. |
Excellent review, upstart. If it were a different forum, I would have recommended you to start writing reviews as a career. You hit the points right on the head. This game has one thing going for it, which is the graphics. Rest is just a very ordinary RTS with some of the worst ideas rolled in. WTF is with the static when you should encounter fog of war. The first time I saw it, I thought it was some kind of cutscene rolling in. Then I waited to see if the game has crashed. it was then I figured it was fog of war, great!!! The infantry is absolutely useless, one hit and they fall while the main hero character can take unlimited damage. In fact he can take more damage than the buildings in the game. So now you must wonder, do you even need those infantry/barracks if your main guy can get the job done. Also the zoom in/out is jerky or whatever upstart says. Another "awesome" feature, the minimap always orients towards the north , so if you used the RMB to turn the map, you would have to estimate which direction you have to scroll in order to reach the objective shown on the minimap.
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Baleur
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 16:13 Post subject: |
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Ok now upstart_69 i dont know if theres anything wrong with your system or your brain, no offence really, but heres how the game behaves on MY machine.
Some of your points for example;
The terrain doesnt clip at all, the fog (yes, fading like all other games) is only visible when zoomed out fully AND tilting the camera as much as you can.
The static can be turned off by a thing called the Earth 2160 Control Panel.
The camera zoom, what about it? It zooms out and in just like it should, smooth and not inverted or anything, i really dont know what you mean.
The right click execute, well then use left click execute...?
The physics, yes for pushing rocks, just as in 98% of all other RTS.
Of course a building with 5000hp takes a long time to be destroyed by 5 rocket infantry, lol what were you expecting? Then there would be no use for real heavy upgraded artillery, since they have something called 10x dmg on buildings.. play more than the first 2 missions is my tip..
Voice acting, everyone has their own opinion, but if you ever played the german version like i did, lol this is way better, i dont think its bad, its on par with most other games for crying out loud.
AI sucks? lol, you have just played the first 2 missions, if you cant even understand why it takes a big force to destroy a base then i really wanna see you in a game against 1 Hard AI. lolz
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 16:19 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | Thanks for that review upstart, I'll pass on this one now for sure.
(The deciding factor was that you mentioned Soldiers, and said this title was worse). |
It's only a small download Fisk, I would recommend you download and find out yourself if you like it, considering opinion seems to be split on here. It's nothing special, but it is a fun game.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 16:45 Post subject: |
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btw, the keygen on the deviance iso appears to be ripped from the gnsdox one.
it's already nuked for that reason on some sites.
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fisk
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 17:16 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | | fisk wrote: | Thanks for that review upstart, I'll pass on this one now for sure.
(The deciding factor was that you mentioned Soldiers, and said this title was worse). |
It's only a small download Fisk, I would recommend you download and find out yourself if you like it, considering opinion seems to be split on here. It's nothing special, but it is a fun game. |
I'm just scared that if I didn't like it, and wrote about it here, Baleur and his teenage posse would start throwing tantrums again 
like so:
| Baleur wrote: | i dont know if theres anything wrong with your [...] brain
[...] lol what were you expecting? [...]
but if you ever played the german version like i did, lol[...]
AI sucks? lol, you have just [...]
i really wanna see you in a game against 1 Hard AI. lolz [...]
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Like OMGROFLMAO1!11one LOL1Zz!! 
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 17:24 Post subject: |
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Your scared of what?! 
In the words of John Cleese as a frenchman: "Go away or i shall taunt you a second time!" 
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javlar
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 17:28 Post subject: |
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Uninstalling 
I'm too much into Rome to even care about this. The thing that tipped the scale was the following:
I ran around with that hero-dude and found an enemy laser-tower, i started shooting on it and it fired back. My hero hardly got hit but the laser-tower was dying way too slow. So i sent over six attack-motorcycles. When they arrive they all die in two hits per bike (the hero had been taking 50~ hits and it was barely visible on his hp-bar). Okay.. fun game. Not.
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 18:30 Post subject: |
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This game is f-king hard... I cant understand it. I make big forces over 100 people and attack but all just gets shooten down in seconds. Damn irrtating and makes this game a piece of junk! (ED Campain)
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nightlith
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 18:45 Post subject: |
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The campaign really opens up as the tech tree opens. And it seems research carries over mission to mission? That was really nice  3rd mission is hard! I had a large battalion of Heavy Laser and Armour Piercing tanks that were owning up the enemy vehicles hard, but I ran into a couple Laser towers and I was promptly blown to crap
Guys, you realise there's alot more to this than large armies right? You have to factor in Kinetic/Explosive vs Energy weapons and armour. Don't forget you pick up alot of smartbombs through the campaign which do devastating amounts of damage. Considering how invincible your hero unit is, run him up to large structures, plant a few bombs, run out and watch the fireworks Also, while my Reflective armour based vehicles get chewed up by ballistic type enemies, my classic armour vehicle own them right back.
Despite some of the quirkiest game balancing (yah, heros are waaay too strong) this can still be a fun game. Take my opinion with a grain of salt, considering I've been playing Historic and Fantasy based RTS for toooo long (Yah, I've played SC but I just didn't like it). So this game is pretty fresh and unique. Unfortunately, I just can't play it on my aging crapbox of a computer. Perhaps when I can offord some upgrade I'll come back to this (don't ask for my specs, because I ain't embarassing myself lol).
Fun game though I can understand why not everyone would like it, but it's fun. That main hero guy in the ED campaign has some woman issues I think, lol!
i can has computar?!
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 19:51 Post subject: |
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| javlar wrote: | | I ran around with that hero-dude and found an enemy laser-tower, i started shooting on it and it fired back. My hero hardly got hit but the laser-tower was dying way too slow. So i sent over six attack-motorcycles. When they arrive they all die in two hits per bike (the hero had been taking 50~ hits and it was barely visible on his hp-bar). Okay.. fun game. Not. |
Your hero has an energy suit. If you have played E2150 you know there are energy shields to research. Your vehicles don't have them yet, but your hero does. That's why he can survive.
A tip: if all is well you found 2 bombs....
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 20:06 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | | fisk wrote: | Thanks for that review upstart, I'll pass on this one now for sure.
(The deciding factor was that you mentioned Soldiers, and said this title was worse). |
It's only a small download Fisk, I would recommend you download and find out yourself if you like it, considering opinion seems to be split on here. It's nothing special, but it is a fun game. |
I'm just scared that if I didn't like it, and wrote about it here, Baleur and his teenage posse would start throwing tantrums again
like so:
| Baleur wrote: | i dont know if theres anything wrong with your [...] brain
[...] lol what were you expecting? [...]
but if you ever played the german version like i did, lol[...]
AI sucks? lol, you have just [...]
i really wanna see you in a game against 1 Hard AI. lolz [...]
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Like OMGROFLMAO1!11one LOL1Zz!! |
hahaha 
This forum would suck without fisk and his humour
(im being serious tho). |
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 20:30 Post subject: |
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I can see this game is too complex for alot of the crowd on here. It's not as simple as just throwing in units with the biggest weapons. The weapons your enemy uses are based on either chemical, ballistic or energy technology, and depending on the shielding and armor of your units you will either win or lose the battle.
For example, all infantry are extremely vulnerable to chemical weapons, except for the UCS's androids. Plus, I guess you lot didn't realise you can take out a vehicles pilot, and replace him with a veteran, then the vehicle becomes far more useful. This is what veterans are for, not just throwing them at the enemy like normal infantry.
I guess this is what happens when you download a moderately complex game, because you don't get the manual.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
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Baleur
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 21:57 Post subject: |
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Lol yeah, and fisk, lol, im just trying to save you the trouble, you wont like any game anyway, so then this game definetly is not for you.
I dont care about peoples opinions, but when they are pointless, and without any real foundation to them, then i get upset.
Like "man 100 standard dudes couldnt kill the base, the game sucks", thats an idiot talking.
On the other hand, "i dont like how the weakness system works", thats a realistic opinion.
I like you fisk, no i dont, but i like to have you on these forums, i need a nemesis, i need you. Thank you for being here I hope we will never stop our idiotic flaming I know i wont!
And yep, you cant just attack with 100 (literally) men and be surprised that they die when assaulting a base.
Normal low-output energy weapons cant do shit against a building, thats what missiles and ballistics are for.
Get used to it, thats how Age of Empires 3 is gonna be also, you cant sit and fire arrows until the building goes down, same with Black & White 2, you wont be destroying a wall by hacking with the standard swordsmen, you gotta bring artillery (catapults)!!
So, get used to it
Use your brains, analyze the game and the weaknesses and the armor types etc, dont label a game, any game, as being crap, because you didnt have the patience to enjoy a game that has more to it than BUILD 50 DUDES RUSH ATTACK WIN!!!1
And for the record, i never played CS and never will, i'm not a complete fucktard.
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upstart_69
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Sep 2005 22:08 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | | fisk wrote: | Thanks for that review upstart, I'll pass on this one now for sure.
(The deciding factor was that you mentioned Soldiers, and said this title was worse). |
It's only a small download Fisk, I would recommend you download and find out yourself if you like it, considering opinion seems to be split on here. It's nothing special, but it is a fun game. |
I'm just scared that if I didn't like it, and wrote about it here, Baleur and his teenage posse would start throwing tantrums again
like so:
| Baleur wrote: | i dont know if theres anything wrong with your [...] brain
[...] lol what were you expecting? [...]
but if you ever played the german version like i did, lol[...]
AI sucks? lol, you have just [...]
i really wanna see you in a game against 1 Hard AI. lolz [...]
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Like OMGROFLMAO1!11one LOL1Zz!! |
Haha teenage posse, that's a good one. Yeah it is really a shame the 12 yr old CS crowd have seemed to gained control here at nforce. Anyways now I decided I shall give up the game since it's obvious its my incongruent brain patterns that are not meshing with this game rather than something that can be fixed visive a patch or mod or something. And about the game being too complex and playing with different game mechanics than other rts out there, that's all well and fine. But if I am playing a complex game I like a long tutorial mission that explains everything and is fun at the same time, ala the original dark reign. And as for multiplayer, I am not sure how I can have a bunch of friends come over for a LAN party and before firing up the game having to explain to them all the mechanics of the game without everyone falling asleep. Anyways like I said when I wrote my comments, these are, listen carefully now......my......own.......opinions.
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Baleur
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Baleur
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Sep 2005 01:26 Post subject: |
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I gotta agree with baleur and animalmother on this, i love this game and the people here at nforce who can't figure out how to properly device a squad or some defence based on their available tech tree, well they should go back to warcraft or stop playing rts's at all.
No this does not have massive battles of the scale of rome, but if one enjoyed the original C&C games onebit, 'one' would enjoy this as well. Despite the fact you can't churn out tons of units and win, unless your lucky
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| Posted: Thu, 8th Sep 2005 02:10 Post subject: |
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The reason why they whine about it is because they didn't have a manual to read, and they didn't pay any money for it.
What incentive have they got to try to understand the game if they didn't spend any money on it? They just think "Meh, can't be bothered to learn how to play, delete". Thats the mentality of alot of the kids on this site. If they can't instantly get into the game, it's obviously rubbish.
This is a game for people who have a greater attention span then 10 minutes, and who don't mind figuring out a moderatly complex game without a manual. If you're a 12 year old who has yet to learn the value of money, and only plays CS all day, AVOID. You'll hate it.
"Techniclly speaking, Beta-Manboi didnt inject Burberry_Massi with Benz, he injected him with liquid that had air bubbles in it, which caused benz." - House M.D
"Faith without logic is the same as knowledge without understanding; meaningless"
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