[XBOX] Black
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dvsone




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2005 15:30    Post subject: [XBOX] Black
ign just posted the first gameplay movie of this game made by criterion (burnout series) and all i can say is OMFG i want this NOW!!!

here's the link to the movie

http://media.xbox.ign.com/media/683/683537/vids_1.html
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mag2005




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2005 16:43    Post subject:
I don't know if the gameplay is good from looking at that video, because all it show is a lot of destruction. I wanna see some AI instead of a gun shooting at environments and see particles flying everywhere. I hope the objective isn't to destroy building and stuff.


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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2005 16:50    Post subject:
I just watched the PS2 version and what can I say except that it's INCREDIBLE. I dont understand how the hell they can make a ps2 game look that fricking good, many of the effects surpasses those of pc games for crying out loud, for example that scene where windows get blown out. Ign even write "(and yes, this is taken from the PS2 version)" so it's for sure ps2 footage. Criterons burnout engine is a real piece of art. I bow down to them. Smile
This is now one of my most wanted games, it's problary buy material too.

Mag AI will never be that advanced on the xbox or the ps2, simple because the cpu cant handle it and at the same time keep the graphics and everything decent. But I bet it will be decent enough to give you some good gameplay.
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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2005 17:38    Post subject:
A very promising game if ever I saw one!

Wow!

http://media.xbox.gamespy.com/media/683/683537/imgs_1.html


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Ballistic




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2005 18:15    Post subject:
i like that criterion releases just a gameplay video instead some cgi bullshit.
looks really good Smile


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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Sep 2005 21:24    Post subject:
that looks incredible for current gen consoles!, cannot wait
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saddamhussein




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 10:50    Post subject:
Looks good, but nothing really special for me. They just added a lot of destructible objects into the levels, added some physics to them and then did some nice particle effects. But as long as the destruction is preprogrammed (meaning you can only destroy whats meant by the devs to be destroyed) and not dynamic like in red faction its nothing that special...
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 11:06    Post subject:
looks better than good, it looks farking awesome! Man those boys can code
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 14:34    Post subject:
saddamhussein wrote:
Looks good, but nothing really special for me. They just added a lot of destructible objects into the levels, added some physics to them and then did some nice particle effects. But as long as the destruction is preprogrammed (meaning you can only destroy whats meant by the devs to be destroyed) and not dynamic like in red faction its nothing that special...


This is a console, you do realise that?
There wont be fully destructable enviroments with visuals and effects like this and also a somewhat decent AI, there is just not enough processing power in the consoles for that.
If you want fully destructable enviroments (like red faction) you have to tone down on something else, the visual effects or it would just not work.
You ask for too much from these consoles.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 18:16    Post subject:
If they can pull of this type of shit with current gen consoles (especially PS2) then I can't wait to see what they eventually manage to pull off with next gen.


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kosmiq




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 18:26    Post subject:
Yeah imagine the graphics that will be on the Xbox360 and the PS3 in about 2-3 years... That should be enough for most devs to learn how to push and use the hardware to the maximum!

Swweeeeeeeet!

Btw Black is gonna be great!



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GP Force




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 18:55    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
I just watched the PS2 version and what can I say except that it's INCREDIBLE. I dont understand how the hell they can make a ps2 game look that fricking good, many of the effects surpasses those of pc games for crying out loud, for example that scene where windows get blown out. Ign even write "(and yes, this is taken from the PS2 version)" so it's for sure ps2 footage. Criterons burnout engine is a real piece of art. I bow down to them. Smile
This is now one of my most wanted games, it's problary buy material too.

Mag AI will never be that advanced on the xbox or the ps2, simple because the cpu cant handle it and at the same time keep the graphics and everything decent. But I bet it will be decent enough to give you some good gameplay.


Please don't put "xbox" any near ps2 in a sentence Very Happy

if you own a ps2, swell..but I wanna see this beauty on the xbox... not on a toned down ps2


I checked teamxbox, releases Q4 2005 Sad

xbox is still making progress, ps2 lost a few years in the grapichal department... Ubisoft had a whole team t decode splinter cell chaos theory just for ps2.... you know how well the ps2 hardware responded Rolling Eyes

Splinter Cell should never have been on ps2, xbox/pc only.... we gave the whore (sony) splinter cell but we didnt' get MGSIII, why!?!??!
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 19:04    Post subject:
GP Force wrote:

Please don't put "xbox" any near ps2 in a sentence Very Happy

if you own a ps2, swell..but I wanna see this beauty on the xbox... not on a toned down ps2

I checked teamxbox, releases Q4 2005 Sad



Stop being a fanboy and watch the PS2 video, it's more or less the same and IT IS PS2 footage. If you knew your thing you would also know that this is also the case with burnout. It's just an amazing engine that likes both consoles. Smile

Normally (basicly always) there is quite a big difference between the ps2 and the xbox with multiplatform games , but this is not the case with Critereons games.
And this is not an opinion, this is a known fact.

Edit: I can clearly see by your edited post that you are a first grade fanboy. Smile
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 19:11    Post subject:
yeah burnout 4 demo on ps2 and xbox are identical except for custom soundtrack from xbox HD , its amazing what is being done on the PS2 lately
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 19:40    Post subject:
GP Force wrote:
I checked teamxbox, releases Q4 2005 Sad


The end of the Black IGN trailer says 2006 ...


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GP Force




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 19:59    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
GP Force wrote:

Please don't put "xbox" any near ps2 in a sentence Very Happy

if you own a ps2, swell..but I wanna see this beauty on the xbox... not on a toned down ps2

I checked teamxbox, releases Q4 2005 Sad



Stop being a fanboy and watch the PS2 video, it's more or less the same and IT IS PS2 footage. If you knew your thing you would also know that this is also the case with burnout. It's just an amazing engine that likes both consoles. Smile

Normally (basicly always) there is quite a big difference between the ps2 and the xbox with multiplatform games , but this is not the case with Critereons games.
And this is not an opinion, this is a known fact.

Edit: I can clearly see by your edited post that you are a first grade fanboy. Smile


Hmm fanboy..... dunno im not a sony whore so Very Happy

"Normally (basicly always) there is quite a big difference between the ps2 and the xbox with multiplatform games , but this is not the case with Critereons games.
And this is not an opinion, this is a known fact."

Blame it on the coders then... it's a common fact the xbox is capable of more advanced things then an ps2

"Stop being a fanboy and watch the PS2 video, it's more or less the same and IT IS PS2 footage. If you knew your thing you would also know that this is also the case with burnout. It's just an amazing engine that likes both consoles. Smile"

Sure, but if they choose to make it the same on ps2/xbox what's the problem? Standard porting... I don't like it... Like MGS2 on xbox...some gfx upgrades wouldn't hurt,then again it's a bad game...

BTW I didn't buy my xbox in 2001 jsut because it had a better hardware...ps2 was hyped too much, remember that stupid IRQ-nuke thing? ps2 launch nuke's.... I was tired of the sony the whore... and I was glad to see ms made something better...

PS2 for me is budokai III and a few JAP rpg's that's all....

Im a pc/xbox gamer...
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GP Force




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 20:02    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
GP Force wrote:
I checked teamxbox, releases Q4 2005 Sad


The end of the Black IGN trailer says 2006 ...


OMFG....
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 21:00    Post subject:
GP Force wrote:
dunno im not a sony whore so Very Happy

Im a pc/xbox gamer...


No offense GP, but you are a joke as a "gamer". Smile

Btw, if you call me a sony whore you really dont know what you are talking about or who I am. Read up alittle on my posts and you will see how incredible dumb that comment was. Wink


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Mr_Miagi




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 21:08    Post subject:
This just looks too good to be true. I'm a hardcore Criterion fan since Burnout 3. And now, now I really can't wait for black... that's just so cool.

A huge aplause to Criterion Games!
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 21:20    Post subject:
bah! who cares about black? burnout revenge is out tomorrow...or the day after. Very Happy

looks great though. but still a long wait for 2006.
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GP Force




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 21:30    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
GP Force wrote:
dunno im not a sony whore so Very Happy

Im a pc/xbox gamer...


No offense GP, but you are a joke as a "gamer". Smile

Btw, if you call me a sony whore you really dont know what you are talking about or who I am. Read up alittle on my posts and you will see how incredible dumb that comment was. Wink


None taken, it's nforce and could care less if I know you or not Smile

Just because I like xbox/pc you decided to call me a "fanboy", fine I don't mind that...

Who you are?, sorry "m8" I could care less, I was airing my thoughts no the matter.

I suggest you read my reply one more time....

Joke as a gamer? funny you said I didn't know you that well to call you a sony whore, yet

A you called a fanboy directly in your first sentence

B You don't know me... dunno what you meant by "a joke as a gamer" since im quite good with pc/xbox games, hell even some ps2 titles, yet I don't like ps2, that's my opinion, don't like then don't reply....

C I'd admit I didn't spend much time reading through my reply (im watching lost)

BTW friend, I suggest next time you call me a fanboy directly in your first reply, read up on google what it really means Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 21:31    Post subject:
I had a quick go on God of War today and I was highly impressed and very disappointed it's a PS2 only title. As well as DMC3, thats another reason I envy PS2 owners Sad


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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 21:32    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
bah! who cares about black? burnout revenge is out tomorrow...or the day after. Very Happy

looks great though. but still a long wait for 2006.


Sure is and I cannot wait!


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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 21:33    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
I had a quick go on God of War today and I was highly impressed and very disappointed it's a PS2 only title. As well as DMC3, thats another reason I envy PS2 owners Sad


Some ps2 games are great, some xbox games are great.... I stil won't understand why ms gave up splinter cell on ps2.. we all know the results... Sony had MGS we had splinter cell, yet we gave it to sony.... where is MGSIII for xbox then?
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pallebrun




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 21:37    Post subject:
Yeah, good games like that shuld be available to everyone, they shuldn't be exlusives.
Maybe in a bright future exclusives will be long gone, and we can all enjoy every game on whichever console. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 21:40    Post subject:
pallebrun wrote:
Yeah, good games like that shuld be available to everyone, they shuldn't be exlusives.
Maybe in a bright future exclusives will be long gone, and we can all enjoy every game on whichever console. Smile


Man if this happened, omg imagine what the future would hold Shocked

Instead of the stupid fight sony vs xbox and vice versa, what if all games where to be multi platformed :O

Then again, it wouldn't matter what console you bought, hmm

But I'd almost buy a ps2 for MGSIII...that's right I reall wan't it Sad

Thank god for mp releases...but seriously black in 2006????

I don't wanna rain on anybody's parade, but if 360/ps3 has been out for a year.. would we really want an xbox1 game?
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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 21:43    Post subject:
all i can say is resident evil 4! Sad
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mcmanic




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Sep 2005 23:20    Post subject:
headshot wrote:
I had a quick go on God of War today and I was highly impressed and very disappointed it's a PS2 only title. As well as DMC3, thats another reason I envy PS2 owners Sad


one reason why i brought a slimline ps2 again, 2 games not to be missed even if your a xbox lover.

IMHO your not a real gamer unless you own all the consoles to play the games that are exclusive to each, its the games that matter and now is a good time to own all 3
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Sep 2005 01:08    Post subject:
Nailbiter wrote:
all i can say is resident evil 4! Sad


One reason I kept my Gamecube! Very Happy

The next reason is Zelda: Twilight Princess!


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Sep 2005 14:37    Post subject:
BTW ALL, that video was from the XBOX. It's on a ign forum somewhere and i cant find it now.


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