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| doobzilla wrote: | | SpykeZ wrote: | | I like compression fittings. They look a lot cleaner too |
Yeah, for $14 a pop they'd better look a lot cleaner.
I guess I'm the weirdo that would rather spend all of his money on good pumps, tubing, blocks, and other components than spend it on fancy compression fittings and other things that are pretty unnecessary if you just adjust how you install things. But I am weird, hell, I water-cooled my HTPC just becase... |
I'd rather spend all my money on nice things and things to make my nice things look nice. This is also probably why I'm always fucking broke  |
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 06:27 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | http://www.anandtech.com/show/6716/closing-the-loop-ii-new-liquid-coolers-from-corsair-and-swiftech/4
Swiftech can do it with closed loop systems as well. |
lmao those fucking homos. I can't believe people still read that site. Not only did they botch up their whole benchmark but their temps were way the fuck off. Wonder how much Corsair is paying them. |
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Stige
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Frant
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Stige
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 15:29 Post subject: |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 16:16 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | Werelds wrote: | http://www.anandtech.com/show/6716/closing-the-loop-ii-new-liquid-coolers-from-corsair-and-swiftech/4
Swiftech can do it with closed loop systems as well. |
lmao those fucking homos. I can't believe people still read that site. Not only did they botch up their whole benchmark but their temps were way the fuck off. Wonder how much Corsair is paying them. |
What?
Their results are in line with other reviews. They also recommend it over all the others and they make it very clear that when it comes to acoustic vs. thermals it comes out even further ahead than it does on pure thermal performance. I have no doubt that with identical fans on this versus the others, this will beat the others even more.
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Stige
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 17:34 Post subject: |
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I would dare to say that the huge coolers like Silver Arrow are a lot better when it comes to cooling/silence levels, and it has been said on a lot of reviews too that if you want similiar performance of the high level air coolers from the closed-loop crap then the closed loop ones are actually louder than the air cooler.
And air coolers are cheaper aswell.
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| Posted: Sat, 2nd Feb 2013 17:45 Post subject: |
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Its mainly because they use very shitty fans. Even Antec 620 gives better performance than NH-D14 when using Scythe Gentle Typhoons. And yes, i have had NH-D14 SE 2011 version (have got Silver Arrow aswell), current H100i destroys it with stock SP corsair fans. Ofc its all about what case you are using etc...
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Stige
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fisk
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Mar 2013 20:28 Post subject: |
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Just a quick update.
I've stayed away from overclocking for quite some time to see if my h80i could handle everything in a good way. But today I tried some basic overclocking of one of my computers (the i5 2500K) (default 3.3GHz) I pushed it to 4.4GHz and did a OCCT-test, and to my disappointment the temperature quickly rose to 91 degrees Celsius under 100% load.
That's not the odd thing though, the odd thing is that my radiator reported temps of 23 degrees Celsius whilst the temp was going up. This is my base temperature I usually have when I run at stock clock and the hottest the CPU gets then under full load is 67 degrees Celsius.
Either the pump isn't up to par with things or the lack of connection between CPU and cooler is the issue here (as originally reported).
What's your take on it?
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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Stige
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Mar 2013 20:53 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | Just a quick update.
I've stayed away from overclocking for quite some time to see if my h80i could handle everything in a good way. But today I tried some basic overclocking of one of my computers (the i5 2500K) (default 3.3GHz) I pushed it to 4.4GHz and did a OCCT-test, and to my disappointment the temperature quickly rose to 91 degrees Celsius under 100% load.
That's not the odd thing though, the odd thing is that my radiator reported temps of 23 degrees Celsius whilst the temp was going up. This is my base temperature I usually have when I run at stock clock and the hottest the CPU gets then under full load is 67 degrees Celsius.
Either the pump isn't up to par with things or the lack of connection between CPU and cooler is the issue here (as originally reported).
What's your take on it? |
The water temp will never rise by much but yeah, it does sound like a bad contact between CPU and block, should try to reseat it.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Mar 2013 20:55 Post subject: |
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Didn't fisk already try to re-seat it like 4-5 times?
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fisk
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Mar 2013 04:08 Post subject: |
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| Prefetian wrote: | | Didn't fisk already try to re-seat it like 4-5 times? |
ignore him, he's in no position to be offering advice. He's been trolling my build thread talking like a retard. |
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| Posted: Sat, 30th Mar 2013 04:10 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | Just a quick update.
I've stayed away from overclocking for quite some time to see if my h80i could handle everything in a good way. But today I tried some basic overclocking of one of my computers (the i5 2500K) (default 3.3GHz) I pushed it to 4.4GHz and did a OCCT-test, and to my disappointment the temperature quickly rose to 91 degrees Celsius under 100% load.
That's not the odd thing though, the odd thing is that my radiator reported temps of 23 degrees Celsius whilst the temp was going up. This is my base temperature I usually have when I run at stock clock and the hottest the CPU gets then under full load is 67 degrees Celsius.
Either the pump isn't up to par with things or the lack of connection between CPU and cooler is the issue here (as originally reported).
What's your take on it? |
Take a picture of your setup. Are your hoses as straight as possible? The pumps on the hydro's are low power garbage. That's why I never went above the H50 because it wasn't worth the money to upgrade to another piece of junk. Any bends or loops cause a drop in performance.
For the price these closed loops are becomming, you can just get the XSPC Raystorm kit for 150, and it includes EVERYTHING, except water, which you just go to the supermarket and get distilled water. |
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Jun 2013 15:53 Post subject: |
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Just out of curiosity, how did it go?
Did you get it fixed and are the temps ok now?
I'm really thinking of getting the H80i but I'm not sure if it'll be that much better than what I have now. o.O
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Stige
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Jun 2013 16:05 Post subject: |
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| Prefetian wrote: | Just out of curiosity, how did it go?
Did you get it fixed and are the temps ok now?
I'm really thinking of getting the H80i but I'm not sure if it'll be that much better than what I have now. o.O |
If you got any sort of decent air cooler then no, it won't be better.
Closed loop stuff is way overpriced for their performance.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Jun 2013 16:12 Post subject: |
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I've got an old Zalman air cooler which is quite old so therefor I'm thinking of getting a H80i, mostly if it can keep my temps down better. ^_^
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Stige
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Jun 2013 17:21 Post subject: |
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I'm a bit confused here.
Almost everywhere I read people say that the noctua NH-D14 is on par with the H80i when it comes to cooling.
However I've found this on anandTech and it states the opposite (unless I'm misinterpreting it).
That's 8 degrees celsius difference there, which is quite a lot when under full load.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Jun 2013 19:14 Post subject: |
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| Stige wrote: | But do you realize how much sound they actually make compared to that NH-D14? The NH-D14 could be considered silent if put next to a H80 at High.
People seem to have the common misconception that the closed loop performance comes with no noise at all which is far from the truth.
Not that I care much for noise myself (6x Gentle Typhoon 1850RPM on my 360 Rad  ) but the closed loop stuff is still way overpriced imo :l |
Noise is of no interest to me since I game with a headset on, performance is and that's what I was wondering about.
So if there is such a huge difference (8 degrees at full load is quite a bit tbh) between the CLC and air coolers than for performance (especially since I'm OC'ing) the H80i is very much worth it. |
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Jun 2013 20:19 Post subject: |
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It also depends on the fan it ships with. Like the whole huuurrrr H100 performs the same as the swiftech.
ya...because swiftech shipped it with silent as fuck fans. put some real fans on it and the thing will perform hell of a lot better.
| Stige wrote: | | m3th0d2008 wrote: | I had zero problems when I installed the H80 (not H80i mind you) for my friend. Oh and those thermal-pads aren't as bad as they were back then.
And I'd say that if you don't want to fuck around with custom watercooling, the Corsair H-Series is pretty good bang for the buck. He's running it at fullspeed though and yes it is loud. But he doesn't give a fuck about noise and he can't hear it anyway most of the time because he uses a headset when he's at his PC. |
Even the Thermalright TrueSpirit beats the H80 and it costs ~25€ or arounds there.
Closed loop stuff is seriously not very good bang for buck as their performance is not even above air coolers. |
That's because most closed loops don't follow the rule of thumb of 120mm per block + 120mm for headroom. Water cooling should be done with 240mm of radiator space MINIMUM. That's why I don't recommend anything lower than the H100 to anyone.
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Jun 2013 20:28 Post subject: |
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What about the Kraken X40?
It's got a 140mm radiator, it should be better than the H80i but not quite as good as the H100i.
Would that be a correct assumption?
Anywho, I was thinking about performance. Just how cool can I get my CPU while in full load without having to get custom watercooling and what would be the best cooler?
Are air-coolers better than CLC's or vice versa?
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| Posted: Mon, 10th Jun 2013 20:31 Post subject: |
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You guys can say what you want, but I love my Corsair H80 and it takes a sloppy wet shit all over my previous broken piece of shit Noctua NHU12P. 120mm block with 2x120mm fans on a push/pull config and it's great - keeps my i5 no higher than 45c loaded and idles at around 34-35c in the summer.
It's damned quiet too, running on Performance mode instead of High or Silent.
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Jun 2013 00:13 Post subject: |
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| Prefetian wrote: | What about the Kraken X40?
It's got a 140mm radiator, it should be better than the H80i but not quite as good as the H100i.
Would that be a correct assumption?
Anywho, I was thinking about performance. Just how cool can I get my CPU while in full load without having to get custom watercooling and what would be the best cooler?
Are air-coolers better than CLC's or vice versa? |
again as I've said quite a few times here, the best you can do is an XSPC Raystorm 360 kit.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_202_972&products_id=34962
I know it's a bit "custom" like but it's cheap as shit and will knock donkey snot out of any cooler you buy. You can get a Swiftech All in one that beats anything on the market but even then it's not as good as an XSPC kit. It's a lot simpler of a process to put it together than it looks, I've had 2 other friends buy them and I helped them over the net to put it together and they're happy as shit.
it's easy, and you get ot build it. See if you can find one at a decent price where you are, if it's a little out of your range, save your pennies and I'll walk you through the build process. |
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Jun 2013 00:41 Post subject: |
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I can't fit such a huge radiator in my case, that's why I'm setting my sight on the H80i or the Kraken.
Otherwise that looks around the price-range I'd be interested in buying.
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| Posted: Tue, 11th Jun 2013 00:58 Post subject: |
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Something that should be noted here is that Corsair will replace your PC parts if you get a leak and damage them. I don't know how often custom water cooling solutions leak though.
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