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 Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 00:31 Post subject: Wattage and Monnies |
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I have a 95w quad core CPU and I'm thinking about upgrading to a 125w eight core CPU. What I'm worried about is my electric bill will go up. Anyone have any real life experience or any info on this?
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 01:01 Post subject: |
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Someone on OCN actually did. He saved I think..18ish dollars a year after he worked out the extra power use.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 01:03 Post subject: |
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Okay so there would be a difference but a very minoot one, good to know!
OCN is another forum right, if you come across it link it up bro.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 02:06 Post subject: |
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You wont even notice the difference with the electric bill. Also the 125 watts will be if you're using it under full load.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 02:31 Post subject: |
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Well yeah, but don't they go over that on heavy full loads?
I've been contemplating replacing my mobo/ram/cpu for a month now, and I always lean towards Intel. Just don't like surprises. I remember having an AMD and having to install software to make the dual core work properly in Windows. I hate bloatware of any kind and even a boot strap like software to make multicores function properly annoys me. I suspect that is no longer a problem right?
I've been looking into the FX-8350 and it looks okay but Intel is still better unless your streaming at the same time. This time I just rather get the best for around 400-500usd. To get my head above water for at least a good 8 years. This system is going on 6 years. The main reason for the upgrade is to be able to run windows 8 in VMWare without lag. Currently I get hiccups left and right like the OS is frozen. Could be my 7200rpm drive maybe.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 02:36 Post subject: |
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| Ci2e wrote: | Well yeah, but don't they go over that on heavy full loads?
I've been contemplating replacing my mobo/ram/cpu for a month now, and I always lean towards Intel. Just don't like surprises. I remember having an AMD and having to install software to make the dual core work properly in Windows. I hate bloatware of any kind and even a boot strap like software to make multicores function properly annoys me. I suspect that is no longer a problem right?
I've been looking into the FX-8350 and it looks okay but Intel is still better unless your streaming at the same time. This time I just rather get the best for around 400-500usd. To get my head above water for at least a good 8 years. This system is going on 6 years. The main reason for the upgrade is to be able to run windows 8 in VMWare without lag. Currently I get hiccups left and right like the OS is frozen. Could be my 7200rpm drive maybe. |
No AMD drivers for a while. I got an 8350, loving it so far. OC's like a beast too. |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 02:55 Post subject: |
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its only 30 watts difference, power companies charge by the KWh (kilowatt hour) even running at full load where it sucked all 125+ watts 24/7, it would take 33 hours to use an extra KWh.
The difference in the bill will be about what it would be if you had a nightlight on 24/7 in your room.
So go for it, the added price of it usage wont be noticed, because its probably smaller than the variation in your bill month to month now.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 04:03 Post subject: |
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Cool good info hah makes me feel better if I do go AMD in the end. Besides price is there any other reason why I shouldn't stick with Intel and just go Sandy Bridge instead of Haswell? Like which will I get the most longevity out of?
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 05:14 Post subject: |
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At this point, any new CPU is going to last you a long while. We're kind of at the point where newer bad ass CPU's don't offer much performance other than allowing less bottlenecks in multi-gpu set ups. AMD 8350, Intel insertmodelname here is going to last you a long while especially if you OC. Just get what's in your budget.
I thought about going with the 3570K but then I saw the 8350 can keep up with it just fine and beat it in a few games that I played. So I got that because I could keep my motherboard.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 17:47 Post subject: |
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Haha yeah I am a bit concerned about power consumption but also trying to find cpu/mobo/ram for an Intel build I already have an AMD build picked out. I just feel comfortable with Intel since that is what I've used for most my life. Later I'll post the AMD build and if anyone has any advice going with Intel that would be nice.
Update: Here is the AMD build
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 18:41 Post subject: I have left. |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 20:21 Post subject: |
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| Shoshomiga wrote: | | Your power bills are probably going to drop due to amd vishera likely having better power saving features than your old core 2 quad cpu, however keep in mind that the latest intel cpus have even better power savings |
Yeah true that but I've been out of the upgrade loop for a good long time and pretty much clueless if I go Intel if I should go Sandy Bridge or Haswell. I hear the new chips aren't all that great and get really hot. I'm on the top floor and it gets hot in my dorm if I don't run the A/C 24/7 ...
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 21:07 Post subject: |
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Ivy/Haswell don't get hot-hot, they're just not as thermally efficient as Sandy. It's an easy fix but one that will void your warranty, if you care about such things.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 21:33 Post subject: |
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Id say stick with intel for sure.
Question is Ivy/Haswell.
I say it depends, as it stands now both are about on par with each other for performance so no reason to get one over the other from that standpoint.
Both sockets will last you for a good few years.
The only thing I think to consider is price vs a couple more years of upgradablity.
With Ivy being 1155, the Haswell 1150 has a year or 2 more 'lifespan' to it since its the newer one. But MB and CPU for them are more expensive, since they are the newer 'hot ticket' item. And far less MB choices at the moment.
So in the end its just about how much you want to spend for the same performance roughly.
Go the cheaper route and have quite a few years before needing a new CPU and MB, or the slightly more expensive route with the newer socket for 1-2 years added onto needing to upgrade the MB.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jun 2013 23:30 Post subject: |
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I'd honestly be scared to do that on a brand new processor that costs $300. If I fuck up that was the biggest waste of money.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 04:15 Post subject: |
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| Ci2e wrote: |
Thanks good advice. So which Intel mobo/cpu/ram would you recommend?
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That's all subjective, ask 10 people you get 11 different answers  .
I've been really loving asrock the last few years for MB. Ive bought 5-6 of them in the last 2 years for my PC and others, and all have been solid, stable, and buttload of features.
For ram g.skill I like, or corsair g.skill edging out on top by a bit.
CPU id stick with i5(k) series like a 4670k on a 1150 socket, so you have the option in 3-4 years to move to the newest best thing (probably broadwell series). i7's are overkill at the moment for the price, you'd pay 2x the price for 10% gain with one.
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-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 04:52 Post subject: |
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Memory G.Skill
Motherboard, Gigabyte or Asrock
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 12:43 Post subject: |
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Their high end mobos are very good.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 19:19 Post subject: |
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| rgb#000 wrote: | Asrock is garbage, avoid  |
No, asus (except higher end), msi and ECS are garbage. Every manufacturer is going to have duds every now any then. Asrock is the best low/midrange end motherboards. |
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Jun 2013 21:58 Post subject: |
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I was researching Intel i7 3770K and came across this bit of info about the K (unlocked) having features I may need for virtual machines disabled.
| nako wrote: | | It overclocks nearly as high as Sandy Bridge and heats up more with voltage. This means 4.4 to 4.7 GHz will be around the limit on air. Note that if you do not plan to overclock and/or intend to run virtual machines, the plain 3770 is the cheaper and better choice as it has Intel SIPP, vPro, VT-d and TXT enabled (the K has these disabled). |
So I guess if I go Intel I need to stay away from unlocked then.
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