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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 13:28    Post subject: [X360/PS3] Best Games of this Gen | 
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						Almost end of this gen and can't see any game apart from GTA 5 making drastic changes in top  games of this gen.
 
 
Shooters
 
1. Call of Duty 4
 
2. Gears of War 3
 
3. Killzone 2/Halo 3
 
 
RPG
 
1. Mass Effect 2
 
2. Witcher 2
 
3. Skyrim
 
 
Action/Adventure
 
1. Assassins Creed 2/Batman Arkham City/God of War 3
 
2. Metal Gear Solid 4/Red Dead Redemption
 
3. Uncharted 2/GTA 4
 
 
XBLA
 
1. Shadow Complex
 
2. Mark of the Ninja 
 
3. The Walking Dead
 
 
PSN
 
1. Journey 
 
2. Flower
 
3. ?
 
 
Most Underrated Game
 
1. Binary Domain
 
2. Catherine
 
3. Chronicles of Riddick assault on dark athena
  
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 14:30    Post subject:  | 
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						Only Consoles right ?
 
Keep in Mind that I only owned a 360 and pc this gen. but as for ps3 (watched youtube palythrought those would be my tops)
 
Heavy Rain, Last of Us, Uncharted trilogy, God of War3, Killzone2,3, Resistance trilogy.
 
 
 
My actual tops:
 
 
Shooters
 
Gears of War
 
Dead Space
 
Red Faction Armageddon
 
 
RPG
 
Mass Effect
 
Dark Souls
 
Fallout3
 
Oblivion
 
Skyrim
 
 
Action/Adventure
 
Alan Wake
 
Saints Row3
 
Sleeping Dogs
 
Red Dead Redemption
 
GTA IV
 
Crackdown
 
 
Most Underrated Game
 
Timeshift
 
The Darkness
 
Binary Domain
 
Riddick Dark Athena
 
Shadows of The Demded
 
Enslaved
 
Prey
 
 
Worth Mention
 
Spec Ops
 
Prey
 
Dead Rising
 
Bioshock
 
Earth Defense Force 2017
 
Darksiders
 
Just Cause 2
 
L.A Noire
 
Deus Ex HR
 
Condemned Criminal Origins
 
Rage
 
Tomb Raider Legend
 
Burnout paradise
  3080 | ps5 pro
 
 
Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
 
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
 
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
  
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 14:45    Post subject:  | 
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						Shooters 
 
 Battlefield 3
 
Killzone 3
 
Call of Duty: World at war (no BS)
 
 
RPG
 
Skyrim
 
Castlevania
 
Mass Effect 2
 
 
Action/Adventure
 
Red Dead Redemption
 
GTA 4
 
Max Payne 3
 
 
Racing
 
Forza 4
 
Dirt 3
 
NFS shift 2
  
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						This gen was a long one, and it's still going, so it's not over yet. But because its long one and there were a lot of games (ton of sequels) my prefs changed and shifted so it's hard to stick with a 3 list game for each category. Anyway, here it is:  
 
 
 
Shooter:
 
Metro (1 and 2)
 
Infinite
 
Crackdown 1 <3
 
Halo Reach
 
Gears of War (2 and 3)
 
 
RPG:
 
Mass Effect (1 and 2)
 
Dark Souls
 
The Witcher 2 (I like the first one the most, but that was/is PC only)
 
Fable 2 <3
 
TES V: Skyrim
 
Fallout 3
 
 
Action Adventure:
 
Red Dead Redemption
 
NIER
 
Saints Row 3
 
GTA IV
 
Conan
 
Castlevania LOS
 
Batman Arkham Asylum
 
Tomb Raider
 
 
XBLA:
 
Shadow Complex
 
Castle Crashers
 
Walking Dead
 
 
Driving/Racing:
 
Burnout Paradise
 
Forza (Horizon and 4)
 
DiRT 1 and 2
 
 
Scary/Horror:
 
Dead Space 1
 
Dead Rising
 
Alan Wake
 
Condemned 2
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 16:10    Post subject:  | 
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						ME2 does not belong in anyone's "best RPG" list. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are both better than that piece of shit. ME1, but not 2 nor 3.
 
 
The two Souls games, ME1, The Witcher 2, Dragon Age: Origins, "Fallout" 3 and NV, TES 4+5, Kingdoms of Amalur. They are all better than bloody ME2  
 
There's a top 10 RPG list for you right there - and I can't even count Fable 2 in for example since I don't have a 360. Nor did I count Alpha Protocol in, because even though the RPG part of it is stronger than ME2's, I still don't really consider it an RPG.
 
 
And regardless of genre, the following belong *somewhere* in the list:
 
- The Walking Dead
 
- Red Dead Redemption
 
- The Last of Us
 
- Dead Space
 
- Batman: AA and AC
 
- GTA 4
 
- Castlevania
 
- Sleeping Dogs
 
- Heavy Rain
 
- Uncharted 2 or 3 (I found 2 to have marginally better gameplay, but 3 has the presentation)
 
- God of War 3
 
- Valkyria Chronicles
 
- Mortal Kombat
 
- Shift 1+2
 
- Alpha Protocol
 
 
And probably some more I've forgotten now. FPS you won't see me mention, the genre simply does not belong on a console IMO. All of the above I rate much higher than any bloody FPS; and with some of the above I still think they would've worked better with KB+M (RDR in particular). ME2 is not even a top25 game, so much better shit out there   
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 16:25    Post subject:  | 
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						Whoa whoa WHOA. First off, Alpha Protocol is NOT an FPS. Secondly, you're a meanie. Thirdly, Alpha Protocol is fucking AWESOME.
  
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 16:29    Post subject:  | 
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						My overall top 10:
 
 
Grand Theft Auto IV
 
Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
 
Red Dead Redemption
 
BioShock
 
Forza Motorsport 4
 
Tomb Raider
 
Gears of War
 
Assassin's Creed II
 
Battlefield 3
 
FIFA
 
 
My fav arcade games:
 
 
Trials HD
 
Battlefield 1943
 
LIMBO
 
Geometry Wars
 
Shadow Complex
 
 
Underrated games I had a lot of fun with:
 
 
Crackdown
 
Alan Wake
 
Bulletstorm
 
Darksiders
 
Just Cause 2
 
Viking
 
Spec Ops: The Line
 
Hitman Absolution
 
Mafia 2
 
Tales of Vesperia << my only RPG I played and loved it lol.
 
 
I must of missed many more but I think this is the best gaming gen ever for me. I have been playing sinds NES time so pretty old lol.
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 16:32    Post subject:  | 
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						 	  | deelix wrote: | 	 		  Im one of few, but I actually think:
 
ME2 > ME1 > ME3
 
 
Yes, in some ways ME1 is better. But when it comes to story and content ME2 wins hands down. | 	  
 
The only part where ME2 is better is the story. Everything else is better in ME1. ME2's gameplay is so unbelievably bad, RPG elements are virtually nonexistent and I could go on about what's wrong with it for hours. It's to ME1 what DA2 is to DA:O, an absolute disgrace. The whole ME series could've been the best RPG series of the last 10 years had they taken ME1 and improved it instead of ripping out everything that was good (or good enough, with potential to be amazing).
 
 
 	  | Quote: | 	 		  @Werelds: Alpha Protocol???          
 
 
You listed so many good games, then an way below average FPS (and im being nice to the game now) | 	  
 
AP is unpolished, but it is a great game. Better than fucking ME2 at least  
 
 
 
Note, ME2 is just one of many "sequels" that I utterly despise for fucking up what could've been great. DA2 like I said, but also Bioshock 2 for example or even GT5. They all either completely disregarded their predecessor or just didn't do shit with what they had (GT5 says hi). Those games do not deserve to be mentioned in any kind of "top" list. I'm quite unforgiving that way; and I don't even rate Bioshock 1 as highly as most people, I think it was good and had potential, but it was not the gem it could've been. 
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 16:32    Post subject:  | 
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						hehe, all those games listed brings back the memories, i played so many games its hard to make a best of.
 
 
My unordered Top Six:
 
 
MGS4
 
BIOSHOCK (1,2 and Infinite)
 
Uncharted (i liked 2 the most)
 
Last of Us
 
Red Dead Redemption
 
GTA 4 + Addons
 
 
i probably missed so many cool games, but these sprang to mind.
 
 
And i concur with Alpha Protocol. I did have a lot of fun with it. I think it was too ambitious, they focused too much on the "choice" while other stuff fell short. I wish they would make a another.
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 16:36    Post subject:  | 
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						Red Dead Redemption, BioShock Infinite, Max Payne 3 and Portal 2. 
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 17:02    Post subject:  | 
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						 	  | Werelds wrote: | 	 		  ME2 does not belong in anyone's "best RPG" list. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are both better than that piece of shit. ME1, but not 2 nor 3.
 
 
The two Souls games, ME1, The Witcher 2, Dragon Age: Origins, "Fallout" 3 and NV, TES 4+5, Kingdoms of Amalur. They are all better than bloody ME2   | 	  
 
 
I respect your opinion even though your comment sound like  	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Blah, blah, blah .... I'm gods special little man so my opinion matters the most ... blah, blah, ... blah. I'm_pregnant_so_I'm_puking_al_ the_time.gif  | 	  
 
 
This is a personal top of favorite games from this gen. If you can't comprehend that and accept that people may have different tastes/preferences than you, why are you on a public forum? Should I staple a IMO sticker at the start of every post?
 
 
As I said, it's MY top list so make your own and
 
 
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 17:10    Post subject:  | 
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						Paul, remember this is the console section. 
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 17:15    Post subject:  | 
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						 	  | cobALT wrote: | 	 		  I respect your opinion even though your comment sound like  	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Blah, blah, blah .... I'm gods special little man so my opinion matters the most ... blah, blah, ... blah. I'm_pregnant_so_I'm_puking_al_ the_time.gif  | 	 
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Are you seriously suggesting that even in your opinion, ME2 is a better _RPG_ than *any* of the ones I mentioned?
 
 
Fine if you like the game, I can respect that. But don't call it an RPG, because it's a story-driven TPS with (very) minor RPG elements (doesn't even have an inventory  ). Not the other way around. That's something most reviews even pointed out and something most gamers said on forums. Fuck, even IGNorant put the game at 57 in their top 100 RPGs; with ME1 at #9 (FO3 at 10 and TES 5 is in the top 10 there as well).
 
 
 
@ Leo: fuck the fact that this is the console section, as if I give a fuck  
 
The fact that some people rate ME2 as a better R P G than ME1 is exactly what is wrong with this fucking generation. That's why we've seen so few proper RPGs. That's why there's hardly any RTS worth mentioning anymore. It just does not appeal to the action-loving crowd they need to target to make up for the retarded marketing budgets these days (because no, game development still isn't that expensive, the marketing is). Or in the case of RTS, doesn't work on consoles. 
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						^with RPG elements. But everything is relative xD
  
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 17:58    Post subject:  | 
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						like others said: RDR, dead island, DE:HR, infamous 2, the witcher 2, bioshock and there are many more i haven't play yet like bioshock infinite, fallout 3 and NV, dishonored, demon souls and dark souls. i will add one game that i didn't see on your lists: dragon's dogma, such a great new ip, i hope we will see DD2 next generation.
 
oh and i forgot platinum games bayonetta and vanquish.. amazing games!
  
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 18:04    Post subject:  | 
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						 	  | Werelds wrote: | 	 		   	  | cobALT wrote: | 	 		  I respect your opinion even though your comment sound like  	  | Quote: | 	 		  | Blah, blah, blah .... I'm gods special little man so my opinion matters the most ... blah, blah, ... blah. I'm_pregnant_so_I'm_puking_al_ the_time.gif  | 	 
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Are you seriously suggesting that even in your opinion, ME2 is a better _RPG_ than *any* of the ones I mentioned?
 
 
Fine if you like the game, I can respect that. But don't call it an RPG, because it's a story-driven TPS with (very) minor RPG elements (doesn't even have an inventory  ). Not the other way around. That's something most reviews even pointed out and something most gamers said on forums. Fuck, even IGNorant put the game at 57 in their top 100 RPGs; with ME1 at #9 (FO3 at 10 and TES 5 is in the top 10 there as well).
 
 
 
@ Leo: fuck the fact that this is the console section, as if I give a fuck  
 
The fact that some people rate ME2 as a better R P G than ME1 is exactly what is wrong with this fucking generation. That's why we've seen so few proper RPGs. That's why there's hardly any RTS worth mentioning anymore. It just does not appeal to the action-loving crowd they need to target to make up for the retarded marketing budgets these days (because no, game development still isn't that expensive, the marketing is). Or in the case of RTS, doesn't work on consoles. | 	  
 
 
When did this became a "your RPG is not better than my RPG" or "I don't count that as an RPG, here are better RPGs you should chose" epenis debate?! 
 
 
It's a game I said like, I never said it was the best RPG or better than other RPGs. The fact that there's no nr attached  to those games in the list should state that there's no order of prefs. I assumed that was obvious. 
 
 
The only reason ME is first one that list because it's the oldest current gen game suited for that category I could think of at that moment.
 
I chose ME because I think of it as a series not as individual games. I specified "1 and 2" because wanted to make it clear that I did not like 3, and would not want to include that.
 
 
 
As for the pure blood RPG debate, <IMO> ME2 is as much an RPG as Diablo is for others. Even more so since, through the story (especially the loyalty ones), you are playing are role.
 
I don't recall inventory and loot drops making an RPG. The fact that you dislike it because it lacks those elements, well that's your evaluation system and you can base your preferences on that but don't expect me to do the same.
 
 
 
 	  | Adebisi wrote: | 	 		  like others said: RDR, dead island, DE:HR, infamous 2, the witcher 2, bioshock and there are many more i haven't play yet like bioshock infinite, fallout 3 and NV, dishonored, demon souls and dark souls. i will add one game that i didn't see on your lists: dragon's dogma, such a great new ip, i hope we will see DD2 next generation.
 
oh and i forgot platinum games bayonetta and vanquish.. amazing games! | 	  
 
 
I didn't forget, just never finished it.   Even though I played a ton of it, mostly roaming around and exploring.  
 
 
There is a game I forgot about and that's Risen 1, but the console version so awful that I played and finished that on PC.
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					 Posted: Sat, 29th Jun 2013 18:10    Post subject:  | 
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						 	  | deelix wrote: | 	 		  | Nobody have mentioned Risen 1 or 2 | 	  
 
 
Doh! See? I knew there was something I'd forgotten ... Risen, absolutely!
  
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						Risen 2 in a "best games" list.   Or even 1 for that matter. 
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						 	  | sabin1981 wrote: | 	 		   	  | cobALT wrote: | 	 		  | As for the pure blood RPG debate, <IMO> ME2 is as much an RPG as Diablo is for others. Even more so since, through the story (especially the loyalty ones), you are playing are role. | 	  
 
 
So we might as well extend that definition to, say, Duke Nukem Forever! You're playing a "role" after all, you're "playing" the "role" of Duke Nukem, so that makes DNF an RPG too   | 	  
 
 
You know what I mean. And no, it's not the same, there's a certain choice factor that's attached to that role you play that affects that world/story in meaningful ways.
 
 
But lets assume you right and go the other way, that skill points and inventory/loot makes and RPG. Then action games like Dark Messiah, Borderlands and Dead Island are RPGs. Hell even the last Wolfenstein and Rage are as well.
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