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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 13:39    Post subject:
I completely agree, this whole thing is just utterly pointless. Rather than this silly gimmick which almost nobody will use, why not get the game out first? Meh. It's not like I'm even interested any more anyhow, too much crafting for my taste.
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zmed




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 13:44    Post subject:
Wait, it gets better. Remember the beta they promised for those who preordered? It will be a public beta. Did you buy it just to get early access? Fuck that, the most you'll get out of this is maybe a 5$ off the price.

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I'm still reasonably ok with having preordered (that 4 pack made it even cheaper), but if they keep fucking around in such a spectacularly inept fashion, I might start regretting it.

EDIT: just checked, they still list access to the beta as a benefit for preordering. Rolling Eyes
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 14:05    Post subject:
It's from the same devteam that dropped the PC version of Terraria and handed control over to someone else in order to concentrate on the XBLA version. I'm honestly not surprised. As you rightly said; one of the bonuses to preordering is beta access - but now they're saying beta is going to be public? Pft.
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 14:50    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
It's from the same devteam that dropped the PC version of Terraria and handed control over to someone else in order to concentrate on the XBLA version. I'm honestly not surprised. As you rightly said; one of the bonuses to preordering is beta access - but now they're saying beta is going to be public? Pft.



Whut? Get your facts straight Sabin. Only guy from Re-Logic (out of the two Wink ) doing Starbound is the spriter, Tiy. The rest of the Chucklefish team is new and had nothing to do with Terraria, which by the way is getting a new massive update soon.
As for the XBLA version: it is and was handled exclusively by 505games, so only thing Red did was rake in the royalties from sales and license.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 14:55    Post subject:
Oh come on! Sad

sabin1981 wrote:
dropped the PC version of Terraria and handed control over to someone else in order to concentrate on the XBLA version.


Yeah, I think someone needs to read before jumping down my throat. That's okay though, it's NFOhump, I'm used to it. As for the team, my apologies, I wasn't aware it was only the one guy. My point still stands nonetheless, just modified somewhat Wink Half the team (ie; ONE of TWO) left to found a new studio and work on Starbound, which looks just like Terraria. That's what I was talking about; the team dropped Terraria, handed over control to an outside source to concentrate solely on the XBLA version, then HALF the team (again; ONE of TWO developers) started working on another game.

So no, I'm not surprised "Chucklefish" is drawing some ire from the fans at the moment about this ridiculous "donate to join the beta!...... but that's okay, we're giving beta to everyone else too!" Anyway, I'm sorry I "insulted" the dev-team or the game, it will never happen again Razz The only reason I don't really give a crap about the game any more is the same reason I stopped playing Terraria; I'm not into "craft a seat in order to sit down" type games, like Wurm and Minecraft too. The idea looks great but there's simply too much emphasis on crafting.
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JackQ
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 16:07    Post subject:
Bendi wrote:
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Whut? Get your facts straight Sabin. Only guy from Re-Logic (out of the two Wink ) doing Starbound is the spriter, Tiy. The resta of the Chucklefish team is new and had nothing to do with Terraria, which by the way is getting a new massive update soon.
As for the XBLA version: it is and was handled exclusively by 505games, so only thing Red did was rake in the royalties from sales and license.


yep,Terraria PC still very worth to get,still getting it's own "exclusives" content and good support,despite consoles versions getting a bit exclusive stuff,people here start to whine and shouting "no more money from me",just because other people get to play the game on non-PC devices,and just few exclusive stuffs.
I stopped taking seriously some of the guys here,especially when it comes to PC vs consoles ports,as with Fez case,it's more of broken Pride and selfishness then actual honest opinion about the product


"Fuck Denuvo"

Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum


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Bendi




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 16:08    Post subject:
Aww, poor Sabin, misunderstood as always Whistle me elmo

Maybe you meant that, but what you said was: the team abandoned Terraria to work on XBLA version and is now responsible for Starbound (and all it's bullshit). Which is really far from thuth.

1. The game was abandoned due to bad blood between Red and Blue (whom I didn't mention). Blue was kicked out , Tiy left because he wasn't paid enough or something like that.
http://terraria.gamepedia.com/Re-Logic
2. Red announced new content will no longer be published. Stating a lot of bullshitty reasons and breaking the promise Re-Logic made about constant updates.
3. Around that time 505games approached Red with the idea of a XBLA port. He agreed ( why not, more money). It was announced almost a half a year later, btw.
They are the ones solely responsible for it (and any updated for it are only for the console/mobile version, no PC)
sabin1981 wrote:
That's what I was talking about; the team dropped Terraria, handed over control to an outside source to concentrate solely on the XBLA version

PC version remained in the hands of Red (who wasn't doing a damn thing with it!)
4.Right now Blue is working on Clockwork Menagerie, Tiy on Starbound (hence the graphics, he designed them), Red again on PC Terraria (with the help of a new spriter) and 505 on the console/mobile ones.

Now read what you wrote once more and tell me that you don't see glaring innacurracies.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 16:10    Post subject:
Bendi wrote:
Aww, poor Sabin, misunderstood as always Whistle me elmo


Ok, we're done here.
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BettyShikle




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 16:22    Post subject:
Every time i read the list of things that will be possible in this game,i somehow think that it isn't possible to merge all these things into a game that plays nice and is fun in the end.
Still,with all the doubts i have i can't wait to get my hands on a working Betabuild or whatever
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Bendi




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 16:24    Post subject:
Fine by me. Sorry if you felt insulted, but you came off as THAT guy. You know, the one who brews up a shitstorm and then stands on the sidelines and when also attacked claims to be innocent Wink

Anyway, it's still just a game, so no reason to get all fussy about it.
Even if you were completely wrong Cool Face
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inz




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 19:46    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
Wait, it gets better. Remember the beta they promised for those who preordered? It will be a public beta. Did you buy it just to get early access? Fuck that, the most you'll get out of this is maybe a 5$ off the price.


Eh, who cares? It doesn't mean the beta will be available for free to everyone, just that once it starts, people can still buy the game and get beta access. Or are you really advocating that only those who got their preorders in early should get to play beta?
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zmed




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 19:58    Post subject:
I think you misunderstand the concept of public betas. Public means open to everyone. As in:



Very Happy

If they meant a preorder-exclusive access (which includes every sale before full release, which naturally includes during beta), then they should be clearer.

Anyways, yeah, it's completely irrelevant, just that they included beta access as an incentive for preorders, yet now they say it will be public. It's the least important perk for the preorders (for me the lower price and "just get it over with already" was more than enough Smile ), still, it's false advertising. I guess they just said fuck it, everyone will pirate it anyways. Razz
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inz




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 20:07    Post subject:
I understand the concept just fine. But since the beta will be the full game, with everything other than main story missions included, it would be insane to release that as a free public beta for anyone to play. It'd kill a good portion of their sales for no good reason.

So yeah, no. The wording on that post is a bit ambiguous, but until the time they specifically say that the beta will freely up for grabs by everyone, I'm still thinking that what they meant by "public" is that anyone can purchase the game at any time and still get access to it.
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 20:34    Post subject:
I just asked about that on their facebook. I'm pretty sure they aren't going to hand a full beta out to everyone to test. Terraria and Minecraft both gave beta to those of us who pre-orderd so I'm sure that's what CF meant. Public to those who go and pre-order it.


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inz




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 20:47    Post subject:
SpykeZ wrote:
Terraria and Minecraft both gave beta to those of us who pre-orderd so I'm sure that's what CF meant. Public to those who go and pre-order it.


Yeah, I don't see it happening any other way. Don't worry zmed, maybe they'll give out some nice exclusive-item DLC for all us early buyers!

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Nui
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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 21:01    Post subject:
I think this wouldn't be the first "private public beta" Smile
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zmed




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 21:38    Post subject:
inz wrote:
SpykeZ wrote:
Terraria and Minecraft both gave beta to those of us who pre-orderd so I'm sure that's what CF meant. Public to those who go and pre-order it.


Yeah, I don't see it happening any other way. Don't worry zmed, maybe they'll give out some nice exclusive-item DLC for all us early buyers!

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Dude, I already said that this is the least important thing about preordering. I'm just raging either about their false advertising or bad communication skills. Very Happy
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inz




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th Jul 2013 22:04    Post subject:
Yeah I know. But it's not like any of those other preorder bonuses were all that great either.

Forum badges, I mean come on? Laughing
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 02:03    Post subject:
inz wrote:
Yeah I know. But it's not like any of those other preorder bonuses were all that great either.

Forum badges, I mean come on? Laughing


This. I mean I don't pre-order games EVER, but for indie games, 5 bucks off when I'm going to just buy it anyways? 5 bucks saved.


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Grale
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 20:29    Post subject:
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Hey guys!

Tiyuri has kindly allowed me to hijack today’s progress report (not without me nagging him repeatedly, mind) to talk a little about what I’ve been working on the past few days with our musical instruments.

Bartwe worked hard last weekend to get the system in place, and I’ve been taking full advantage, testing various potential instruments with dozens of ABC files.

At present there’s almost 20 instruments already in the game, with more to come as time goes on.

It’s been a bit of a time-consuming task collecting all the necessary samples to make it work well, but hopefully the video below will demonstrate that it’s an effort that’s paying off nicely!


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At present there’s almost 20 instruments already in the game. It’s been a bit of a time-consuming task


What the flying monkey sacks are they fucking around with chuffing musical instruments for!
Way to waste valuable time and effort on something that could have waited until after the release Confused

I doubt these pointless additions will end anytime soon. It's good they're adding things like this and the more content the better, but fuck these things aren't a priority guys, polish and add cute features after the beta Evil or Very Mad
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Grale
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 20:34    Post subject:
And guys leaving comments like this on site doesn't help.

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YES!! YOU GUYS ADDED A FLUTE!!

This is the most exciting update yet for me - THANK YOU!

Muffinut, Today at 4:49 AM



A flute and his life is complete. What a twat! or is he trolling?!?

FFS
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BettyShikle




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 22:22    Post subject:
let's wait for throwable cakes and a clown outfit
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zmed




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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 22:59    Post subject:
Grale wrote:
And guys leaving comments like this on site doesn't help.

Quote:
YES!! YOU GUYS ADDED A FLUTE!!

This is the most exciting update yet for me - THANK YOU!

Muffinut, Today at 4:49 AM



A flute and his life is complete. What a twat! or is he trolling?!?

FFS
It seems to be a very widespread trend on their site. Anyone who raises even the slightest objection to anything will be shouted down immediately, and drowned out by these overly enthusiastic fanboys. Every time I went to their forums just to see how things are, the legions of drones chanting their praises always put me off.

There are an awful lot of people who seem to think that Tiy and his team simply cannot do wrong. And it appears the devs let this go to their heads, unfortunately.
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Nui
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th Jul 2013 23:10    Post subject:
Music?

Bards in space! W00h00

I may have potential to post comments on their site Laughing
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Overlord123




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jul 2013 10:41    Post subject:
Now you can sing! Life's complete!
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Grale
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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jul 2013 11:05    Post subject:
Next implementation on their list: Working Toilets. Yes that's right not only do we now have musical instruments and singing, you will soon be able to sing while taking a virtual piss/crap!
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BettyShikle




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jul 2013 21:05    Post subject:
someone tell them to stop wasting time on these things plz
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djaoni




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PostPosted: Sat, 13th Jul 2013 21:11    Post subject:
If it was just the sound guy doing it, I don't really see the problem.

I'm sure someone is excited for it.
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akvma
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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 02:11    Post subject:
Can't say how i excited i am for this game. Rarely have been this excited with any game. Only a handful i guess.

Something about how they are all open of they development progress and the love towards detail and the determination really gives me assurance.

If it weren't for GTA V I'm sure this would be my GOTY. Then again GTA V likely won't be released for PC this year, so it might be my GOTY after all.

We'll have to see!
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inz




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PostPosted: Sun, 14th Jul 2013 02:22    Post subject:
djaoni wrote:
If it was just the sound guy doing it, I don't really see the problem.

I'm sure someone is excited for it.


Exactly, the sound assets must be very close to completion, so if he has the time and good ideas - by all means, implement them. Normally, you'd move the people who've done their 'part' into other projects, but most likely they don't even have one yet. You guys would rather he just twiddled his thumbs instead of creating more content into the game? It wouldn't make the beta release come any sooner.

The ABC notation system is by no means high-priority stuff, but it should be fun still. Sounds a lot better than the crap that LOTRO has, too. Razz
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