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M4trix




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2013 19:21    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
Cheers for the replies. Were you guys offered the Radiofrequency catheter ablation treatment operation?


Nope, since my PACs don't need that kind of treatment. Well, my opinion is, do the radio ablation only if your cardiologists insists in case of a life threatening arrhythmia! I've read that sometimes the radio ablation can make it worse. Do it only if you can't deal with your condition. Anyways, it's too early to discuss about radio ablation. Smile


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Newty182




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2013 19:30    Post subject:
The cardiologist asked me if he should book me in for it on the first day he saw me. I asked about what it actually was and he explained the risks so I said I would like to wait until I see him again in 3 months.


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M4trix




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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2013 19:37    Post subject:
Newty182 wrote:
The cardiologist asked me if he should book me in for it on the first day he saw me. I asked about what it actually was and he explained the risks so I said I would like to wait until I see him again in 3 months.


Hm, he offered you a radio ablation on the first appointment? Without doing the complete tests? Confused What about you ask for a second opinion, consult with another cardiologist? Neutral


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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2013 19:42    Post subject:
It wasn't even an appointment. I was in the hospital and he had came to the ward to see me. The conversation only lasted 5 minutes and until looking on google when I got home I knew very little about anything. I still don't know much about my condition, I would like to know which parts of the heart are causing the problems. I'm hoping my GP can tell me more once he gets the paperwork from the hospital, hopefully next week. I think I probably should see if I can get a second opinion. Neutral

Tests I had were an ECG, xray and blood tests.


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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2013 19:53    Post subject:
Dunno m8 what to say. Maybe they saw something in that ECG and needs an ablation treatment. Anyways, I'm not a cardiologist nor anyone else here, therefore nobody can tell you what to do. Still, ask for a second opinion m8. Oh, and don't Google your condition too much! Google always says you will die! Laughing


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Aug 2013 08:01    Post subject:
I'm glad you found out whats wrong.

I perform ECG on patients. I can tell you there are a lot of people have it. SUV and PAC. People that are chronic, can't even tell when they have it.

Our stats are rates over 140, or 3 missed beats in a row. Bunch of others but I won't get into that.

I think I know of the surgery you are referring too. Ablation? I come across patients maybe 11 so far and not one has been successful. There was no change. Except in one pt I had the other day it actually slowed his heart to under 40 bpm.

There are medications that are very successful.
How old are you if you don't mind me asking?


The part of the heart that isn't working is the electrical pathway. The AV node is probably being over ridden by a pacemaker in the ventricle. Probably something to do with Vagus nerve
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Aug 2013 14:18    Post subject:
Yeah the surgery is ablation. So what happened to the patient who's heart was slowed to 40bpm, did the person require a pacemaker afterwards?

The beta blocker I'm on now seems to be working quite well.

I'm 33 years old.


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Aug 2013 18:06    Post subject:
I don't know about that patient and probably won't see him again. My job is done.. had to get instructions from the doctor as to what to do. Should he go immediately to the hospital, can he drive, or go home and wait. He had symptoms but instructions were to go home and the doctor would contact him at home.

Ablation is pretty hard to do. One patient told me there is only one doctor who has any kind of success rate. They go in and zap out the pacemaker that is causing the problem.

A pacemaker is a little area of super excitable tissue that initiates a current that causes a contraction. Normally the AV at the top of the atria initiates the current that causes the contraction. Then it goes to the SA nade in the upper middle and then sweeps down the bundle of his (septum) in the purkenji network (the bottom of the heart) If for some reason the AV node doesn't fire the SA node takes over... and so on.

In your case I doubt you have had MI. or injury. For some reason a little spot in your ventricles has overridden your AV node. Finding that trouble makers spot is like finding a needle in a haystack. Your ECG shows a wide QRS... and you feel those more.

Personally I think the med's are the way to go. Esp for you. You are intermittent, or else they would of caught it on the ECG. ECG only shows what is happening that moment you press the button and take that 'picture' I think it's like 6 sec picture but I forgot.


Bata blockers are very common.
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Aug 2013 18:11    Post subject:
But for you I would keep an eye on those factors that indicate cardiac health. Like cholesterol levels. Chol, Trg, LDL, HDL, your should quality to get tested 2 times a year. And have reg ecg's to make sure there is no change. For you right now, normal is No-Change. At least here you can with a reason and MSP pays.
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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Aug 2013 18:45    Post subject:
Thanks for the advice, Pistol. Smile

Just read an article on ablation and all that kind of stuff with veins and the heart grosses me out. *shivers*. I am still interested in seeing what the cardiologist will say about ablation and I'm getting more and more questions to ask him, like does it REALLY work well, I got the feeling he seemed to think it did.

No injury. Not sure what MI is but I think that's probably a no to that too.

I will keep an eye on things better now. Quit smoking for four days now.


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Aug 2013 19:10    Post subject:
Pistol,

it's good to see someone here that knows our problem. Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 4th Aug 2013 20:33    Post subject:
Fuck I was wrong. I'm not a cardiologist. Your beat is originating Above the ventricles, not below.... I don't use this theory everyday. For the most part I rely on the machine to diagnose, do a quick STAT criteria check and go by symptoms.... Anything else with symptoms I fax in and get a response from a technologist right away with directions.


A lot of people think if your heart is beating faster it means there is increased blood flow through out the body but the opposite actually happens. The ventricles don't get a chance to fill complety so you can get dizzy, light headed.


MI is Myocardial Infarction. Lack or cut off of oxygen to the heart muscle that contracts. Usually due to a clog in the artery that supplies some area of the heart muscle. Usually seen heart heart disease. If that blockage affects the SA node then it falls to the AV node to take over. I doubt that is you, You can see this on an ECG with ST elevation or depression. They would of caught that. It's pretty easy to read on a Non-SVT beat.
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