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murgo




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2013 12:00    Post subject:
new infamous video:



Frap Frap Guy


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2013 13:25    Post subject:
I don't know, while it looks great from a graphics stand point and way more fun than the previous 2 installments I just can't seem to get excited for this since I couldn't get into infamous 1+2 at all. I tried but they both were pretty bland imo
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2013 14:01    Post subject:
loved inf1,2 can't wait
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2013 14:26    Post subject:
murgo wrote:
new infamous video:



Frap Frap Guy


Looks absolutely fantastic! So Much Win
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2013 14:58    Post subject:
"...and it takes wave after wave of enemies to give you challange."

thanks, but no thanks. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2013 15:01    Post subject:
It was the same in Prototype and the two earlier inFamous games. You were practically a GOD and couldn't be taken down without immense firepower and overwhelming odds Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2013 15:05    Post subject:
Yeah, tried one of them, cant remember which beacuse they are so alike, and thought it was all for looks.

When there is no challange I quickly loose interest.
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murgo




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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Aug 2013 15:23    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
It was the same in Prototype and the two earlier inFamous games. You were practically a GOD and couldn't be taken down without immense firepower and overwhelming odds Very Happy


well, you DO get your ass kicked on hard Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2013 10:28    Post subject:
In other news...

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/xbox-one-and-ps4-release-dates-leaked-by-toysrus-8743949.html

For those interested Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Aug 2013 17:15    Post subject:
CaptnNemo wrote:
In other news...

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/xbox-one-and-ps4-release-dates-leaked-by-toysrus-8743949.html

For those interested Very Happy


like always: estimated placeholder dates
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Jonhy




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 17:09    Post subject:
Unboxing Xbox one:



Will come with a mono headset, 4K HDMI cable and a free Xone sticker lol wut
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highfe




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 17:40    Post subject:
how big is this shit
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 17:42    Post subject:
what a vast difference over the wiiu unboxing. one is classy and sleek and very minimalistic and the other is very north american. lol. wtf.

sony should just have a slow motion of something opening the box and all the contents falling out and do little bubbles explaining what each thing is. Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 19:25    Post subject:
wtf mono ? Neutral Sad
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GuerrillaM6




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 19:50    Post subject:
segobi wrote:
wtf mono ? Neutral Sad


did you expect a stereo headset? I even like the mono ones better, I want to hear as much from my surround system as possible.

Btw. how is it that the x1 is so huge and the ps4 is only a fraction of the size? Since they have pretty similar components from the same manufacturers, heat development should be similar too right? So they should also need similar space to cool the thing, or what am I missing here?
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 19:51    Post subject:
highfe wrote:
how big is this shit


Guerrilla060185 wrote:
segobi wrote:
wtf mono ? Neutral Sad


did you expect a stereo headset? I even like the mono ones better, I want to hear as much from my surround system as possible.

Btw. how is it that the x1 is so huge and the ps4 is only a fraction of the size? Since they have pretty similar components from the same manufacturers, heat development should be similar too right? So they should also need similar space to cool the thing, or what am I missing here?



Agreed I prefer mono

Everything in that box appears so chunky from kinect to the xbone itself and still has a external power brick

MS seriously need to get non Americans to design their stuff us normal people don't live in big houses and as you pointed out comparing the size is American vs Japanese design plus PS4 has internal psu which you would expect it to be bigger but no it's smaller.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:01    Post subject:
mortman wrote:
highfe wrote:
how big is this shit


Guerrilla060185 wrote:
segobi wrote:
wtf mono ? Neutral Sad


did you expect a stereo headset? I even like the mono ones better, I want to hear as much from my surround system as possible.

Btw. how is it that the x1 is so huge and the ps4 is only a fraction of the size? Since they have pretty similar components from the same manufacturers, heat development should be similar too right? So they should also need similar space to cool the thing, or what am I missing here?



Agreed I prefer mono

Everything in that box appears so chunky from kinect to the xbone itself and still has a external power brick

MS seriously need to get non Americans to design their stuff us normal people don't live in big houses and as you pointed out comparing the size is American vs Japanese design plus PS4 has internal psu which you would expect it to be bigger but no it's smaller.


is it confirmed that the psu is inside with the ps4. And I don't think size was a design choice by ms but rather a necessity. So either Ps4 is water cooled, it sounds like a helicopter or ms's engineers are terrible at heat management, which seems unlikely...
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:04    Post subject:
Guerrilla060185 wrote:
or ms's engineers are terrible at heat management, which seems unlikely...




$1bn of MS money seems to disagree with you, sir, or are you forgetting the millions of heat-destroyed launch 360s? Zephyrs? Opus'? Xenons? Falcons? Even the Jasper isn't immune to RRoD or E74, both of which are due to heat.


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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:04    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
loved inf1,2 can't wait


Tried playing inf1, but i just can't get hooked :/

Probably played for like 4 hours or so, but i just can't seem to like it :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:08    Post subject:
It was a design choice, the Xbox One is intended to theoretically be always on for 10 years and be silent like a set-top box. Thats why it has that big-ass fan.
Also they were afraid of something like RROD happening again so they took the clunky, riskless path, Whitten said something like that in the podcast.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:11    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
Thats why it has that big-ass fan.
Also they were afraid of something like RROD happening again so they took the clunky, riskless path, Whitten said something like that in the podcast.


In this case it's a path I'd choose as well. Stick a couple of 200mm fans in there and give the components enormous breathing room, anything to avoid the catastrophe of the last generation. If it means not losing a $500 device to ridiculously poor heat management, I'd rather have an enormous Betamax-style chassis too - though, naturally, I'd prefer something a little bit more... well.. sleak.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:15    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Guerrilla060185 wrote:
or ms's engineers are terrible at heat management, which seems unlikely...




$1bn of MS money seems to disagree with you, sir, or are you forgetting the millions of heat-destroyed launch 360s? Zephyrs? Opus'? Xenons? Falcons? Even the Jasper isn't immune to RRoD or E74, both of which are due to heat.


wasn't it less of an issue of heat management with the 360 but more faulty design? wasn't it the xclamps fault which put too much strain on the board so tracks simply broke? That's why you could fix it with a heat gun by reconnecting those broken tracks. I'm certainly no expert here so I could be dead wrong Wink

Nevertheless, I bet MS spent a shitload of money this time around to make sure this won't happen again Wink

Maybe they are so afraid of this happening again that they just put a way overpowered cooling solution in there...
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GuerrillaM6




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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:16    Post subject:
Shocktrooper wrote:
It was a design choice, the Xbox One is intended to theoretically be always on for 10 years and be silent like a set-top box. Thats why it has that big-ass fan.
Also they were afraid of something like RROD happening again so they took the clunky, riskless path, Whitten said something like that in the podcast.


well this makes a lot of sense Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:25    Post subject:
It was everything; terrible design, incredibly weak cooling, low quality thermal paste, the board warping under heat and causing the tracks to snap, the cheap-ass solder unable to sustain thermal cycles and cracking. You can "fix" it for all of several weeks before it dies again. I think the only fix even close to being "definitive" would be a reball but even those are still prone. All in all the first five 360 models were just poor designs.

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Typos, sorry.


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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:26    Post subject:


Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:44    Post subject:
Who gives a shit how the stupid thing looks like. The controller is important and the rest is meh. I wanted to pre-order the ps4 but saw that there are no games at release to play lmao. I will wait a year before picking the next gen I think. I don't get how people are not complaining that Sony will not release one great game at launch.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:50    Post subject:
BOOMDOOM wrote:
The controller is important and the rest is meh.


Agreed. Most of us are just nitpicking about the obscene size.. the truth is, the damned thing will be in a cabinet under the telly, or at the side of it, and will just be ignored. The controller is the most important thing to worry about and it looks like Sony and MS have that down fine, just like last gen.

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I don't get how people are not complaining that Sony will not release one great game at launch.


Opinions? I could say the same about the Yankbox; "Not one great game at launch" - I have no interest in Dead Rising 3 due to the bullshit changes they've brought to the game, Ryse is a QTE simulator and the less said about Pay For Instinct, the better. Forza 5 sounds good though very little gameplay information has been given out. DriveClub, on the PS4, looks absolutely incredible and while I'm not "into" console shooters.. I'd have to be blind to not appreciate how Killzone 4 looks, whereas Knack looks like it could be a great little timewaster, I'd have to see more.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:56    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
BOOMDOOM wrote:
The controller is important and the rest is meh.


Agreed. Most of us are just nitpicking about the obscene size.. the truth is, the damned thing will be in a cabinet under the telly, or at the side of it, and will just be ignored. The controller is the most important thing to worry about and it looks like Sony and MS have that down fine, just like last gen.

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I don't get how people are not complaining that Sony will not release one great game at launch.


Opinions? I could say the same about the Yankbox; "Not one great game at launch" - I have no interest in Dead Rising 3 due to the bullshit changes they've brought to the game, Ryse is a QTE simulator and the less said about Pay For Instinct, the better. Forza 5 sounds good though very little gameplay information has been given out. DriveClub, on the PS4, looks absolutely incredible and while I'm not "into" console shooters.. I'd have to be blind to not appreciate how Killzone 4 looks, whereas Knack looks like it could be a great little timewaster, I'd have to see more.


For me I only think Killzone 4 looks good but I don't like the franchise at all. I think xbox one has way better lineup but the damn thing is expensive and I don't like kinect.

PS4:

Killzone 4

Xbox one:

Forza 5
Dead rising 3
Killer instinct
Ryse (If it's not fantasy and not quick time bs it can be awesome)

And I think titanfall will come the the xbox one as well.

I just can't believe people are not bitching about Sony. They did this with the ps3 and it took fucking forever to get the good titles out.
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 20:58    Post subject:
What i'm gonna do is wait a good while before buying anything. There seems to be a shitload of exclusivity this generation, whether or not this is just a launch thing remains unknown, so i'm gonna wait it out in the beginning.

I will most likely wait until one console is hacked though Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 8th Aug 2013 21:01    Post subject:
Console launches... since when it is ANY indication how console will do.


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