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Werelds
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| StrEagle wrote: | | My dad is driving the new twincharged 1.4 TSI 180hp - epic little engine, but compare it to 1.8T that was from 2002.. |
You're comparing two turbo charged engines. And in this case, the 1.4 versus 1.8 will make zero difference.
As for hybrids: I still think that in electric mode (and thus any full electric car as well) they're lethal machines. The fact that they make 0 noise is highly unsettling. |
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Aug 2013 15:35 Post subject: |
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Yeah but they can make only 2km on electricity..
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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garus
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Aug 2013 15:35 Post subject: |
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spankie
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| Posted: Wed, 14th Aug 2013 16:25 Post subject: |
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The prius has 100kg of batteries, to do that thing, and it's useless and dead weight when traveling outside city limits. :\
Even more with plug-in hybrids, that can go 80-100km on pure electricity.
And in both cases you need a garage, ot at least a parking spot with an outlet.
Another thing: usually the battery pack of the cars, is leased to you for 50eur a month.
For 50 eur a month, I do 700km on diesel.
I agree hybrids are the future, but they aren't worth the money at this moment.
Maybe incorporate super capacitors, and increase battery life and capacity by 10 fold, and it'd be fucking bye bye to internal combustion engines.
I ADORE the Tesla car - only electricity and makes 400km with ~6h? recharge. But costs $100k, of which $20k is only the battery. Which needs to be replaced every 3 years?
In the current state of manufacturing, the only good thing is latest generation start-stop systems, and not always.
A friend of mine has a 2009 Mazda 3 speed. It has a second battery exclusively for the said system. It breaks down after 1-3 months of usage. And Mazda refuses to fix it or replace the battery - it wasn't covered in the guarantee - it's a consumable. And that is on ALL Mazda 3's.
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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Stige
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 12:46 Post subject: |
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FUCK DA FUEL ECONOMY!
On highway I must get around 10l/100km or something (~23MPG?), in towns it's propably closer to 15l/100km (~15MPG?).
Not sure what my Ford does yet after last winters rebuild/tuning of the engine but I doubt it's any less than last summer with more power now heh.
Fuel is pricy as fuck here,
95E10 / 98E5 / Diesel
1.529 1.579 1.354
Those are just the cheapest prices in Finland, you can add like 8-10 cents to those prices where I live.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 12:51 Post subject: |
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That's waaay too much. A small hatchback 1.6 does 6/100 outside and 8/100 inside city limits, and a small sedan does 8/100 outside and 10/100 inside city limits..?! (average on normal driving)
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 12:53 Post subject: |
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| Stige wrote: | Fuel is pricy as fuck here,
95E10 / 98E5 / Diesel
1.529 1.579 1.354 |
  
You know nothing, Jon Snow.
1.70-1.85 for Euro95, add 10 cents for 98 and diesel's around 1.40. |
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Stige
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 12:55 Post subject: |
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| StrEagle wrote: | | That's waaay too much. A small hatchback 1.6 does 6/100 outside and 8/100 inside city limits, and a small sedan does 8/100 outside and 10/100 inside city limits..?! (average on normal driving) |
What are these things you speak of????
I thought a car isn't a car unless it's atleast 5m long and 2m wide! And has no less than 8 cylinders.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 14:33 Post subject: |
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Dude I ride a diesel hatchback.. you got the wrong guy 
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 17:55 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | Stige wrote: | Fuel is pricy as fuck here,
95E10 / 98E5 / Diesel
1.529 1.579 1.354 |
You know nothing, Jon Snow.
1.70-1.85 for Euro95, add 10 cents for 98 and diesel's around 1.40. |
As you know fuel is more expensive than wine here  |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 19:39 Post subject: |
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| ixigia wrote: | | Werelds wrote: | | Stige wrote: | Fuel is pricy as fuck here,
95E10 / 98E5 / Diesel
1.529 1.579 1.354 |
You know nothing, Jon Snow.
1.70-1.85 for Euro95, add 10 cents for 98 and diesel's around 1.40. |
As you know fuel is more expensive than wine here |
Sad, but very true |
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 20:11 Post subject: |
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You guys bitch about high prices but you got income that compensates for that in those countries.
oil is running out anyway, get your bicycles ready!
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 20:20 Post subject: |
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| FireMaster wrote: | You guys bitch about high prices but you got income that compensates for that in those countries.
oil is running out anyway, get your bicycles ready! |
Yes, especially in Italy they do.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 21:28 Post subject: |
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Only country where 3rd world salaries and 1st world prices coexist pacifically and nobody gives a fuck xD |
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Invasor
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 21:50 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 23:01 Post subject: |
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You all should buy a Dacia or a 1.5 DCI engine car. stop being douchebags and get an economical engine.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Aug 2013 23:48 Post subject: |
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lol at this thread. ppl on anti-diesel crusade bitching about petrol prices.
i don't know what kind of anti-diesel drivel you guys been reading but there are a buttload of tests done on this subject. they take two identical cars with petrol and diesel, engines as close to power as possible and drive 10,000km or so. and diesel always comes up on top of fuel economy, take into account diesel price and you get 30-40% lower fuel running costs.
warelds, i'm sorry about your fucked up taxes in your country against diesel cars, but contrary to your beliefs world doesn't revolve around you or the Netherlands 
in my country ppl mostly buy used cars, and prices for those are identical for petrol and diesel model. also we don't have dumb ass diesel car taxes or whatever. but before you go on screaming 3rd world, we have rigorous car tests that every car must pass at least every 2 years, and these tests are especially thorough for diesel cars.
also, another guy bitching about diesel in winter... "special" fuel. yeah it's called arctic diesel and you can get it everywhere during winter. hard to start diesel car in winter? yeah it's as hard as waiting a few secs for red glowplug light to go off. how about not having 20 year old car with primitive diesel engine. you know they made great advances in diesel engine tech over the last 1-2 decades.
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deelix
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Aug 2013 03:12 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | Remember reading that there are 4 countries with no tax on wine in europe. Don't remember exactly but thought it was Italy, France, Austria and Greece. |
You are correct  . Apparently there are other countries as well http://www.wine-searcher.com/eu-wine-taxes.lml |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Aug 2013 10:01 Post subject: |
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| rgb#000 wrote: | | warelds, i'm sorry about your fucked up taxes in your country against diesel cars, but contrary to your beliefs world doesn't revolve around you or the Netherlands |
We're not the only country with such extreme taxes on it. |
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2013 08:46 Post subject: |
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So my car drove ~760km with ~62€ worth of diesel (45.34L). This means the consumption is more like 6L/100KM and my display showed me between 6.0 and 5.9, but I had some fast driving phases in there. This time I'll try to drive as economic as possible, let's see how many kilometers are possible that way 
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2013 11:01 Post subject: |
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I drove at 60-80km/h to Belgrade on some scenic routes along the river (some 500km) - 3.9/100. So it's possible.
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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Stige
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2013 11:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2013 12:45 Post subject: |
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| StrEagle wrote: | | I drove at 60-80km/h to Belgrade on some scenic routes along the river (some 500km) - 3.9/100. So it's possible. |
| Sin317 wrote: | | while you can't "turn gay", you can cut off your balls. believe me, you'll never think of women again. |
| zmed wrote: | | Or just a defense mechanism. If you fart, you'll most definitely smell it so your brain tells you it ain't bad as strangerfarts. |
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2013 14:10 Post subject: |
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Yeah but you already paid more for your car than I did and after you are done paying it still won't be yours... well except for if you pay the same ridiculous amount again
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Stige
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