Tom Calancy’s Splinter Cell: Blacklist
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 16:37    Post subject:
bart5986 wrote:
I don't understand how to play this game properly without killing people. (Playing on perfectionist)

Use non-lethal weapons/gadgets? You also don't have to take out every single target.

Well I like it, I just spent 75 minutes on a single mission. At this rate, I'll finish it in a month. It's more actioney than the trilogy, but I don't mind it. It's a different kind of beast, but I seem to like it as much as CT (oh no he diiiint!).
Are the sidemissions meant to be done solo also or is it really made for co-op?

edit: well I just started Charlie's mission, I'm meant to survive 20 waves? By doing what, going Rambo on their assess? Weird mission for Sam.
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warriormax
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 16:46    Post subject:
IamAWESOME wrote:
warriormax wrote:
Where's the best deal for the game? Is it at CJS?


$24 - Steam CIS - Region free.
7-9 TF2 keys - nVidia Uplay key - Steamtrades

Btw the CIS version is the one that is sold in the RU sites, yes?
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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 16:46    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Well I like it, I just spent 75 minutes on a single mission.

Did the first one in 65 minutes and a few seconds and then I saw that there was a bonus for under 65, haha!

Uhm, so yeah... I did that mission and I like the game, playing on perfectionist, of course. I don't know if Splinter Cell is back to its former glory, but some mixed game with the focus on stealth has been born for sure. It takes elements from quite a few games. The whole ship aspect is from Mass Effect as has been mentioned. It's a pretty cool thing actually. The actual missions feel more like Mark of the Ninja than the previous Splinter Cell games to me. And that's cool as well. I like the game so far and it seems like it has a ton of content.

Performance wise I can't say I'm happy. It runs a bit crappy on my system, but I managed to find a way to make it run decent. I installed the beta driver as well and it seems to run better thanks to that (I just hope it doesn't crash other games now). I'm downloading the patch right now as I don't think Uplay installed it. It seems pretty big and it's supposed to have fixes for performance as well, so here's hope it improves that.
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neeger93




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 16:47    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:

Are the sidemissions meant to be done solo also or is it really made for co-op?

edit: well I just started Charlie's mission, I'm meant to survive 20 waves? By doing what, going Rambo on their assess? Weird mission for Sam.


Yeah, that side mission is weird. The ones where you have to eliminate targets or steal some intel are good though and work just fine solo. The co-op part basically means that there are one or two routes which you can't access while playing solo.


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bart5986




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 16:48    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
bart5986 wrote:
I don't understand how to play this game properly without killing people. (Playing on perfectionist)

Use non-lethal weapons/gadgets? You also don't have to take out every single target.


I'm talking about getting past a room full of people silently.

I must have missed something because I didn't see a way to get through them silently.
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 16:48    Post subject:
warriormax wrote:
IamAWESOME wrote:
warriormax wrote:
Where's the best deal for the game? Is it at CJS?


$24 - Steam CIS - Region free.
7-9 TF2 keys - nVidia Uplay key - Steamtrades


Are you sure they won't put a region lock later on?

Are we sure it's region free to begin with?
Steam says this for me:
Quote:
Notice: Purchases made in Russia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Moldova, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Ukraine will only be giftable to users in these countries.

Doesn't say anything about playing it, but it looks like a standard region-restriction notice...
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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 16:49    Post subject:
neeger93 wrote:
Mister_s wrote:

Are the sidemissions meant to be done solo also or is it really made for co-op?

edit: well I just started Charlie's mission, I'm meant to survive 20 waves? By doing what, going Rambo on their assess? Weird mission for Sam.


Yeah, that side mission is weird. The ones where you have to eliminate targets or steal some intel are good though and work just fine solo. The co-op part basically means that there are one or two routes which you can't access while playing solo.

Is the objective to kill all enemies or is there another way of doing it?
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neeger93




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 16:52    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
neeger93 wrote:
Mister_s wrote:

Are the sidemissions meant to be done solo also or is it really made for co-op?

edit: well I just started Charlie's mission, I'm meant to survive 20 waves? By doing what, going Rambo on their assess? Weird mission for Sam.


Yeah, that side mission is weird. The ones where you have to eliminate targets or steal some intel are good though and work just fine solo. The co-op part basically means that there are one or two routes which you can't access while playing solo.

Is the objective to kill all enemies or is there another way of doing it?


You have to neutralize them either lethally or non-lethally and reinforcements get sent in if you are detected. The other type of side mission does however require you to not be detected and also gives a bonus if you leave all the enemies undisturbed.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 16:54    Post subject:
warriormax wrote:
IamAWESOME wrote:
warriormax wrote:
Where's the best deal for the game? Is it at CJS?


$24 - Steam CIS - Region free.
7-9 TF2 keys - nVidia Uplay key - Steamtrades

Btw the CIS version is the one that is sold in the RU sites, yes?


Yes, and I remember that until a few days ago at least, those were only giftable to russian/CIS users, and up until release date, you couldn't find a Steam version offered on Steamtrades, only Uplay. However, I got lucky and traded one for 17 TF2 keys and it was RU/CIS, which I downloaded and am playing with zero issues.

I wonder if they suddenly made the RU/CIS steam version giftable to everyone to bump sales? Very Happy


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warriormax
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 17:00    Post subject:
Why it have to be a gift? What will happen if I by it from plati.ru for instance? The only game I bought from russian store was Sleeping Dogs and I didn't have any problem activating the key, will there be a problem with the Cocklist? Because in roxen.ru the standard edition is for 10 euro which is AWESOME HOLY SHIT price for this game and I am really tempted getting it from there.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 17:03    Post subject:
In the case of Ubi games, because if you want them to be the Steam version, they need to be bought directly from the Steam store or received as a gift on Steam. Any key you buy outside of steam will be Uplay only.

The only exception I've seen so far is Amazon keys for Assassin's Creed 3 which apparently can be activated on Steam, but that wasn't true until months after the game was released.
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trollpower




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 17:05    Post subject:
warriormax wrote:
Why it have to be a gift? What will happen if I by it from plati.ru for instance? The only game I bought from russian store was Sleeping Dogs and I didn't have any problem activating the key, will there be a problem with the Cocklist? Because in roxen.ru the standard edition is for 10 euro which is AWESOME HOLY SHIT price for this game and I am really tempted getting it from there.

cddiski says RU version has region lock and RU language only - 13€
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 17:07    Post subject:
And Uplay only.
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warriormax
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 17:15    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
In the case of Ubi games, because if you want them to be the Steam version, they need to be bought directly from the Steam store or received as a gift on Steam. Any key you buy outside of steam will be Uplay only.

The only exception I've seen so far is Amazon keys for Assassin's Creed 3 which apparently can be activated on Steam, but that wasn't true until months after the game was released.

I don't care about the key being Unotplay only because I care about the game Laughing
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 17:18    Post subject:
If you don't care about it being Steam, stop looking elsewhere and just use Steamtrades, they got lots of cheap reliable Uplay keys there Wink
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hdtv00




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 17:53    Post subject:
People playing the reloaded version are you running it in DX 11?
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trollpower




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 17:54    Post subject:
hdtv00 wrote:
People playing the reloaded version are you running it in DX 11?


yes, no problems here, nvidia card + latest drivers
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warriormax
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:01    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
If you don't care about it being Steam, stop looking elsewhere and just use Steamtrades, they got lots of cheap reliable Uplay keys there Wink

Yes but they want TF2 keys which I don't have. From the CS GO items I sold I can buy 5 keys, while the lowest offer I saw was 8 Sad
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trollpower




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:02    Post subject:
warriormax wrote:
4treyu wrote:
If you don't care about it being Steam, stop looking elsewhere and just use Steamtrades, they got lots of cheap reliable Uplay keys there Wink

Yes but they want TF2 keys which I don't have. From the CS GO items I sold I can buy 5 keys, while the lowest offer I saw was 8 Sad

http://store.teamfortress.com/itemdetails/339892
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:04    Post subject:
lol don't buy the keys from there, it's too expensive. You can get them 20% cheaper from another user on the steam market.

And if you're not too lazy like me, you can find them even cheaper from some specialized sites. Our beloved humper lolozaur is the local expert in these matters Cool Face
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warriormax
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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:11    Post subject:
The lowest price I could find is in the steam market which is 1.5e. But still I prefer to just buy the key directly with real money Laughing
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:13    Post subject:
If you found a place to buy them with fake money please share Cool Face
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Pey




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:25    Post subject:
Just played a couple mission. Graphics are pretty bad I must say, way below expectations. Even Conviction looked better than this :/ gameplay-wise seems the same as conviction so far.


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:31    Post subject:
I feel sad for you then, graphics look pretty good and beautiful on my PC Smile About gameplay, I never played Conviction, but if it's the same gameplay, then it wasn't that bad as 90% of the people say!
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trollpower




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:43    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
I feel sad for you then, graphics look pretty good and beautiful on my PC Smile About gameplay, I never played Conviction, but if it's the same gameplay, then it wasn't that bad as 90% of the people say!


well in conviction you was (most of the time) forced to kill... so it is not the same. This is much better game, but still it is kinda retarded when you compare it to original games.

Imho if they had enough balls to remove M&E and made this only for stealth approach and trashed panther vaseline moves (or atleast slow them down), it would be much better game...
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21021




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:51    Post subject:
Does anyone know what UNDETECTED really means?
It only says COMPLETE WITHOUT BEING DETECTED IN GAMEPLAY
Does that mean you can't use checkpoints and must restart mission whenever detected?
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:53    Post subject:
No, it doesn't.
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hdtv00




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:57    Post subject:
God damn it when I run the dx 11 exe it does some system validation thing and then it just crashes the exe, WTF. I've reinstalled it twice and I am using that latest nvid beta driver that's supposed to increase the games performance.
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21021




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 18:58    Post subject:
I must be doing something wrong then.
I'm having some trouble knocking out the guys in Kobin's room.
They go ape shit when I open teh door and throw sleeping gas...
OK it turns out you don't even have to open the door... there's a big gap right above it Rolling Eyes


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Thu, 22nd Aug 2013 19:09    Post subject:
Yeap, that bit is fucked up as it requires that you had purchased some gas grenades or something to put them to sleep before entering the room. Otherwise, you will get detected and not able to get the ghost achievement for the mission, at least in the first playthrough. You still get a shitload of stealth points though that should be more than enough to beat the minimum score required for the "ghost style = mastered" achievement.

Still, pretty bad decision IMO Mad
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