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The Colony - 6/10
Dead Space 3 
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Man of tai chi - 5/10
Really forgettable film, with some atrocious and utterly unnecessary wire work. The fights were decent and were definitely enough that it didn't need the silly and jarring wire shit.
I kinda liked the idea of it being about breaking down his innocence, but the beyond that it just wasn't all that engaging.
Finally, I remember the big deal some here made about the new fight filming work with the camera rig being planned for use... Even watched the impressive YouTube proof of concept video, expecting to see a more refined and rehearsed usage of it in this film. No such luck, I can only assume they trashed the idea, or it was not intended for this film, because it was never showcased here. Pity, because I thought the YouTube video was wonderful and was looking forward to seeing it here.. What a disappointment! I really hope the tech/concept DOES make it into a film, because there's so much potential there for fantastic fight showcasing.
As for the fights here..I've seen better, but these were definitely satsisfying, and I'm SO thankful they just choreographed and then filmed the fights, letting them generally speak for themselves, rather than using lots of quick cuts and FUCKING slow mo... Hate that shit now in fights! It should be so fucking apparent now to directors that good choreography is all you need to make a fast and thrilling action sequence... you don't need to ruin it by hiding it behind shitty camera techniques!
So yeah, forgettable movie, shitty and pointless wire work, nice story idea, poorly executed, nice fights but I lament the lack of the impressive camera rig/work I was promised 
R.I.P.D. - 6/10
Had some fun moments, and some real cringe worthy ones too. Shit cgi, but I liked that it was still a fun effects film (quantity over quality ). I thought bridges was wasted in this... He was great, but the character needed work...
Finally, I USUALLY prefer films to pick a genre and stick with it... And I definitely liked the light-hearted comedy approach the film took, but I actually think in this case, the film would have been MUCH better if it had been a bit more serious... I think it probably should have copied MIB a bit, and it could have ended up being a really cool movie.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2013 20:57 Post subject: |
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R.I.P.D was mind-numbilngly stupid...
Giving it 4 out of 10 is generous.
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2013 21:42 Post subject: |
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i saw a webrip
8 out of 10 dentists prefer zipfero to competing brands(fraich3 and Mutantius)!
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2013 21:43 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 27th Aug 2013 22:53 Post subject: |
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| zipfero wrote: | | Prefetian wrote: | R.I.P.D was mind-numbilngly stupid...
Giving it 4 out of 10 is generous. |
If you re-read I wasnt implying that my opinion was anything but subjective  |
It wasn't specific to you. Let me re-write it a bit.
Giving it 4 out of 10 or above is generous. |
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 00:27 Post subject: |
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Great Gatsby 6/10
The scenes and music were nice as usual with Luhrmann, but  Spoiler: | since it was a book I read in high school, everytime I saw the glasses I heard my Engliah Teacher talking about them being the eyes of God blablabla. |
all the metaphors of the book were so InYourFace all the times and even went to explain them even... If you like the videoclip kind of editing and music, let me recommend Romeo and Juliet by the same director, for me it's a 10/10 for the soundtrack alone. You do have to be able to endure Leonardo di Caprio, which some people cannot do. I find him a great actor and actually saved the great gatsby from being a complete failure. No I'm not gay. 
Oblivion 6/10 okayish scifi
The Tree of Life 6/10 really tiresome all those looooooooong sequenzzzes of nature
Place beyond the pines 7/10 decent, interesting but didnt really grab me
Django Unchained 9/10 Hans ftw, and dicaprio again.
Jagten 9/10 amazing
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| BearishSun wrote: | But how many murderers do you know of that tried to kill a guy four different ways and failed
And then accidentally killed their second victim before they got anything out of him |
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree then.
Starship Troopers - 7/10
Yes I know I am extremely late.. Whatever. Here is my review:
One of the cheesiest, nah, scratch that, the cheesiest movie I have ever watched. The first 10-15 minutes were really hard to stomach and I was about to turn it off more than once or twice.
Thankfully the plot starts moving on a bit later and you realize all the cheese was put on purpose.
Not much later you also realize what this movie is is a very entertaining clone of Aliens, that while it doesn't have the same artistic merit, it kicks all kinds of ass.
If you still haven't watched it yet, you should! Highly recommended.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 13:23 Post subject: |
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Kick-Ass 2
5/10
That movie was mediocre as hell. Usually movies rates above 7 in IMDB are at least watchable or more or less enjoyable, but this was not the case. Those teenage scenes made me face palm of how bad it was, stupid, really stupid.
The only reason it gets 5 is because that Mother Russia fighting scene alone adds 3 extra points. That was very well done.
I think the biggest disappointment is the fact that the first one was pretty good and that this is just bad all around.
That being said, I wouldn't mind seeing Olga Kurkulina in more movies. She really seems to fit to those women villain roles, which is a big rarity.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 14:30 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | BearishSun wrote: | But how many murderers do you know of that tried to kill a guy four different ways and failed
And then accidentally killed their second victim before they got anything out of him |
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree then.
Starship Troopers - 7/10
Yes I know I am extremely late.. Whatever. Here is my review:
One of the cheesiest, nah, scratch that, the cheesiest movie I have ever watched. The first 10-15 minutes were really hard to stomach and I was about to turn it off more than once or twice.
Thankfully the plot starts moving on a bit later and you realize all the cheese was put on purpose.
Not much later you also realize what this movie is is a very entertaining clone of Aliens, that while it doesn't have the same artistic merit, it kicks all kinds of ass.
If you still haven't watched it yet, you should! Highly recommended. |
You got the sarcasm and laughed at all the silly clichés [ ]
You thought that it was cheesy written and your sarcasm meter is severely broken [x] |
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 15:02 Post subject: |
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Not really. The movie WAS very cheesy. It had sarcastic and cliched scenes as well.
Don't think sarcastic and cliched describes the movie better than cheesy as you imply.
For example the bug autopsy scene in school near the beginning of the movie, as ridiculous as it was, cannot be classified neither as "sarcastic" nor as "cliche".
The propaganda scene of the kids stomping on little bugs is probably sarcastic.
Everything about the 2 love triangles is cliche.
I think I have a pretty good understanding of what the movie tried to do and I didn't know I had to open a vocabulary to find all relevant adjectives that describe it to paste them in my review.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 15:09 Post subject: |
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Holy shit I was watching the COLONY instead of the CONJURING. I was like this is supposed to be the good horror movie? Such a bad movie damn.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 15:09 Post subject: |
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Well I always had the feeling that those scenes were intentionally cheesy
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 15:20 Post subject: |
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| zipfero wrote: | | i saw a webrip |
really bad quality
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| zmed wrote: | | Or just a defense mechanism. If you fart, you'll most definitely smell it so your brain tells you it ain't bad as strangerfarts. |
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 15:29 Post subject: |
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Starship Troopers is a story about racism/xenophobie and about a totalitarian system.
Just think about it. Oh and yeah, all the comedy in the movie comes just from all the bad writing, cgi and bad actors. It's totally unintentional.
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actually the writing is intentional. and the acting is also intentional. it's a high-budget b-movie.
the whole movie was written as a pro-war propaganda and it reads as such. If you think the acting is unintentionally bad then you haven't really experienced enough of Verhoeven's work.
problem comes from the future sequels that couldn't handle the torch and therefore the original work comes off as bad since all others copied the wrong parts.
also the cgi isn't THAT bad... most of the movie iirc had real effects and very little although excessive cgi.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 16:14 Post subject: |
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What Waldo said about it being intentional.
And the CG is damn good for a 97 movie and many of the effects looked like miniatures and stop motion to me. I wish there was a high budget sequel to this, I loved the action and effects in this movie so much. Now I have to watch the crappy STV ones they made..
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Welcome, and thank you for flying air sin317. If you look out our left window, you will see the point far off in the distance as we fly by it.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 16:30 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | The novel has been criticised for its social and political themes including allegations of advocating fascism or militarism.[5] |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_troopers
look who's the idiot now.
here more in depth :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starship_Troopers#Controversy
| Quote: | Allegations of militarism
Another complaint about Starship Troopers is that it is either militaristic or pro-military. There was a two-year debate in the Proceedings of the Institute for Twenty-First Century Studies (PITFCS) that was sparked by a comparison between a quote in Starship Troopers that "the noblest fate that a man can endure is to place his own mortal body between his loved home and war's desolation"[36] (paraphrase of the fourth stanza of "The Star-Spangled Banner") and the anti-war poem "Dulce et Decorum Est" by Wilfred Owen.[31] Dean McLaughlin called it "a book-length recruiting poster."[31] Alexei Panshin, a veteran of the peacetime military, argued that Heinlein glossed over the reality of military life, and that the Terran Federation-Arachnid conflict existed simply because, "Starship troopers are not half so glorious sitting on their butts polishing their weapons for the tenth time for lack of anything else to do."[16] Joe Haldeman, a Vietnam veteran and author of the anti-war Hugo[37]- and Nebula[38]-winning science fiction novel The Forever War, similarly complained that Starship Troopers unnecessarily glorifies war.[39]
Defending Heinlein, George Price argued that "[Heinlein] implies, first, that war is something 'endured,' not enjoyed, and second, that war is so unpleasant, so desolate, that it must at all costs be kept away from one's home."[31] In a commentary on his essay "Who Are the Heirs of Patrick Henry?", Heinlein agreed that Starship Troopers "glorifies the military ... Specifically the P.B.I., the Poor Bloody Infantry, the mudfoot who places his frail body between his loved home and the war's desolation – but is rarely appreciated... he has the toughest job of all and should be honored."[40] The book's dedication also reads in part "... to all sergeants everywhere who have labored to make men out of boys."[41] Heinlein also received some complaints about the lack of conscription in Starship Troopers (the military draft was the law in the United States when he wrote the novel).[42]
Allegations of fascism
Another accusation is that the Terran Federation is a fascist society, and that Starship Troopers is therefore an endorsement of fascism. These allegations have become so popular that Sircar's Corollary of Godwin's Law states that once Heinlein is brought up during online debates, "Nazis or Hitler are mentioned within three days."[43] The most visible proponent of these views is probably Paul Verhoeven, whose film version of Starship Troopers portrayed the Terran Federation's personnel wearing uniforms strongly reminiscent of those worn by the Third Reich-era Wehrmacht; but Verhoeven admits that he never finished reading the actual book.[44] Most of the arguments for this view cite the idea that only veterans can vote and non-veterans lack full citizenship; moreover, only veterans are permitted to teach the course "History & Moral Philosophy", children are taught that moral arguments for the status quo are mathematically correct, and both capital and corporal punishment are accepted as methods of teaching morality and reducing crime. Federal Service is not necessarily military, although it is suggested that hardship and strict discipline are pervasive. According to Poul Anderson, Heinlein got the idea not from Nazi Germany or Sparta, but from Switzerland.[13]
Many argue that Heinlein was simply discussing the merits of a "selective versus nonselective franchise."[31][volume & issue needed] Heinlein made a similar claim in his Expanded Universe and further noted that 95% of "veterans" were not military personnel but members of the civil service and that only retired veterans could vote or hold office.[45]
However, this issue is still controversial, even among the book's defenders. James Gifford[8] and David Dyer-Bennet[46] point to several quotes as indications that the characters assume Federal Service is military; for instance, when Rico tells his father he is interested in Federal Service, his father immediately explains his belief that Federal Service is a bad idea because there is no war in progress, indicating that he sees Federal Service as military in nature, or not necessary to a businessman during peacetime. Some Federal Service recruiters wear military ribbons, and a term of service "is either real military service... or a most unreasonable facsimile thereof." Moreover, the history of Federal Service describes it as being started by military veterans who did not originally allow civilians to join and are not described as allowing them to join later. Gifford decides, as a result, that although Heinlein's intentions may have been that Federal Service be 95% non-military, in relation to the actual contents of the book, Heinlein "is wrong on this point. Flatly so."
Allegations of utopianism
More recently, the book has been analyzed as a utopia (in the sense of a society that does not, and cannot, exist), and that while Heinlein's ideas sound plausible, they have never been put to the test. This criticism has been leveled by writers such as Robert A. W. Lowndes, Philip José Farmer, and Michael Moorcock. The latter wrote an essay entitled "Starship Stormtroopers" in which he attacked Heinlein and other writers over similar "Utopian fiction."[47] Lowndes accused Heinlein of using straw man arguments, "countering ingenuous half-truths with brilliant half-truths."[31] Lowndes further argued that the Terran Federation could never be as idealistic as Heinlein portrays it to be because he never properly addressed "whether or not [non-citizens] have at least as full a measure of civil redress against official injustice as we have today".[31] Farmer also agreed, arguing that a "world ruled by veterans would be as mismanaged, graft-ridden, and insane as one ruled by men who had never gotten near the odor of blood and guts."[31]
Allegations of racism
The supposedly racist aspects of Starship Troopers involve the Terrans' relations with the Bugs and the Skinnies. Richard Geib has suggested that Heinlein portrayed the individual Arachnids as lacking "minds or souls... killing them seems no different from stepping on ants."[48] Both Robert Peterson and John Brunner believe that the nicknames "Bugs" and "Skinnies" carry racial overtones, Brunner using the analogy of the Korean word for "country" "gook"[31] while Peterson suggested that "not only does the nickname 'Bugs' for the arachnids of Klendathu sound too much like a racial slur, but Heinlein's characters unswervingly believe that humans are superior to Bugs, and that humans are destined to spread across the galaxy."[49]
Robert A. W. Lowndes argues that the war between the Terrans and the Arachnids is not about a quest for racial purity, but rather an extension of Heinlein's belief that man is a wild animal. According to this theory, if man lacks a moral compass beyond the will to survive, and he was confronted by another species with a similar lack of morality, then the only possible moral result would be warfare.[31] |
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not sure what your point is here.. you're comparing the book with the film, which were handled two entirely different ways... Verhoeven took a satirical approach to those themes in the film, much the same way he did robocop... he was actually taking the piss, 100%... theres even a quote about this stuff somewhere im too lazy to find.
...the over the top rah rah bullshit, the 'pretty, young teen' soldiers who think theyre invincible... the way he handled and presented the propaganda in the film, if nothing else, should be ample proof of this!! the entire presentation was done on purpose, i dont see what quoting a shitload of stuff from the book has to do with any of how Verhoeven portrayed these themes in the film...
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Yup.
| Quote: | | According to the DVD commentary, Paul Verhoeven never finished reading the novel, claiming he read through the first few chapters and became both "bored and depressed." |
I think this sums it up.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 16:53 Post subject: |
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lol wasnt the one i meant
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 16:57 Post subject: |
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Starship Troopers effectively satirises its own source material, since Verhoeven hated the book and everything Heinlein was advocating with it. In doing so, he also prophesied the next 15 years of US military action.
It also contains one of the greatest, most rousing sci-fi scores in history. RIP Basil Poledouris 
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| Posted: Wed, 28th Aug 2013 16:58 Post subject: |
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Paul Verhoeven specialises in satire movies, taking a poke at the current trends in the world and turning them into entertainment. Anyone that thinks the MOVIE of Starship Troopers is "pro-war propaganda" is hilariously mistaken ... It was the very opposite, pure satire all the way.
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well i guess we're just all idiots for completely misunderstanding the film, and sins post on the BOOK and its writer, proves all this. idiots the lot of us. IDIOTSSSssssssss!!!!
would love to know how horribly we are all misunderstanding robocop as well, while we're at it.
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