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JBeckman
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30 FPS on PS4 and XB1 would mean a great increase in visual quality while possibly also maintaining proper 1080P and maybe even some AA although I guess it would be FXAA or MLAA if so.
(There will probably be plenty of titles at 60 FPS too of course.)
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| Posted: Mon, 2nd Sep 2013 21:28 Post subject: |
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Yeah, but LoS2 is not a so-called "next gen" game. Development started year if not 2 ago and target was Xbox360/PS3.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Sep 2013 17:20 Post subject: |
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Game is freezing for me sometimes, not errors or anything it just freezes my pc.
at first I thought was sweetfx, but it was not. I updated gpu (gtx 670) drivers to 326.98 , reinstalled DX. My temps are also ok. I have not idea what is going on. Anyone else getting this problem with this game?
I tried to do the updates 1 and 2 but I can't even extract them, av says is virus. Is there another source for them?
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Sep 2013 17:29 Post subject: |
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I never had a single freeze, even though I alt+tab lot and one time I left it minimized for night.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Sep 2013 18:23 Post subject: |
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| JBeckman wrote: | 30 FPS on PS4 and XB1 would mean a great increase in visual quality while possibly also maintaining proper 1080P and maybe even some AA although I guess it would be FXAA or MLAA if so.
(There will probably be plenty of titles at 60 FPS too of course.) |
i d rather play a game on low-medium settings at 60 fps, than veryhigh/ultra at 30 fps, but maybe its just me.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Sep 2013 18:29 Post subject: |
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Hmm, only happened with this game, right now I am running dolphin with mario sweetfx and 4 controllers from pc to tv and still doing stuff in my pc. No problem in pc at all.
Kein did you install those updates 1 and 2? I think that is what I am missing.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Sep 2013 18:31 Post subject: |
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| The_Zeel wrote: | | JBeckman wrote: | 30 FPS on PS4 and XB1 would mean a great increase in visual quality while possibly also maintaining proper 1080P and maybe even some AA although I guess it would be FXAA or MLAA if so.
(There will probably be plenty of titles at 60 FPS too of course.) |
i d rather play a game on low-medium settings at 60 fps, than veryhigh/ultra at 30 fps, but maybe its just me. |
Likewise. Framerate is very much a real THING for me, I can see and *feel* the smoothness faltering when it drops below 60 and it's incredibly uncomfortable. Just like some people have very real physical reactions to low field of view, I have that with low framerate, especially on action/fast-paced 3D games - with sprites/2D/etc I tend to have less problems with 30fps.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Sep 2013 18:54 Post subject: |
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| Ghoster wrote: | Hmm, only happened with this game, right now I am running dolphin with mario sweetfx and 4 controllers from pc to tv and still doing stuff in my pc. No problem in pc at all.
Kein did you install those updates 1 and 2? I think that is what I am missing. |
Yeah, Steam downloaded it automatically. But keep in mind that I finished almost half of the game with 0day version (I never closed it).
I did some lurking (csrin) and it seems that each update just affected data0 and executable, so you can install upd2 only, I think.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Sep 2013 19:50 Post subject: |
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| DV2 wrote: | Installed Update 1 and 2 from WALMART's (Yet the game release is FLT,i think) in order and applied the crack into the bin folder
Note that when the update was on,i chosen the Browse option then chosen this parth: C:\Program Files\Castlevania (blablabla)
Then a new icon for the game appeard in the desktop,called "CastlevaniaLoS" and whenever i double click it a phsyx DLL error appeard..yet the main Castlevania icon works correctly..
Did i updated the game correctly?,is there a way to figure it out?...and what's with this not working new Exe? |
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 23:09 Post subject: |
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Finally found sometime to finish it and I must say I regret purchasing it. Not because the game is bad, it is kinda decent. No, I contributed to sales hoping that if LoS will do well, Konami will consider to port/publish more stuff on PC, but, uh... This port is bad, really bad. Konami paid just few damn cents to Climax to do cheap job (as they always do with bad ports) to quickly grab some cash from PC cattle. And it seems like they plan to keep this politic regarding PC platform. No thanks.
My payback will be isodemo of LoS2.
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 23:15 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | The_Zeel wrote: | | JBeckman wrote: | 30 FPS on PS4 and XB1 would mean a great increase in visual quality while possibly also maintaining proper 1080P and maybe even some AA although I guess it would be FXAA or MLAA if so.
(There will probably be plenty of titles at 60 FPS too of course.) |
i d rather play a game on low-medium settings at 60 fps, than veryhigh/ultra at 30 fps, but maybe its just me. |
Likewise. Framerate is very much a real THING for me, I can see and *feel* the smoothness faltering when it drops below 60 and it's incredibly uncomfortable. Just like some people have very real physical reactions to low field of view, I have that with low framerate, especially on action/fast-paced 3D games - with sprites/2D/etc I tend to have less problems with 30fps. |
yes, with sidescrollers i dont mind 30 fps or even slight drops to 25, its still playable, the only reason i could play lords of shadow at such a horrible framerate was thanks to the fixed camera and pause frames after every registered hit a la zelda games. without these 2, especially with a free controllable camera, i wouldnt be able to stomach it.
also, a game running at 30 fps is fine as long as its really really constant 30 fps. a semi 60 fps console game that keeps skipping between 40 and 60 can sometimes feel more annoying than a completely 30 fps one since it keeps giving you perfectly smooth gameplay and then taking it away again. so since 60 fps are sadly extremely rare when it comes to console gaming, i would already be satisfied with perfectly constant 30 fps, without even a single drop below that.
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| Posted: Thu, 5th Sep 2013 23:36 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | The_Zeel wrote: | | JBeckman wrote: | 30 FPS on PS4 and XB1 would mean a great increase in visual quality while possibly also maintaining proper 1080P and maybe even some AA although I guess it would be FXAA or MLAA if so.
(There will probably be plenty of titles at 60 FPS too of course.) |
i d rather play a game on low-medium settings at 60 fps, than veryhigh/ultra at 30 fps, but maybe its just me. |
Likewise. Framerate is very much a real THING for me, I can see and *feel* the smoothness faltering when it drops below 60 and it's incredibly uncomfortable. Just like some people have very real physical reactions to low field of view, I have that with low framerate, especially on action/fast-paced 3D games - with sprites/2D/etc I tend to have less problems with 30fps. |
Have You tried my method of cheating brain?
First play in 60 and adore it.
Then set to 15 and endure this shit for like 5-15minutes.
Then switch to 30 and it will seem as smooth as 60 to Your brain.
Just use radeonpro or nvidia framerate cap
Its working on me. It can still be felt that it is 30fps ofc. But the difference is not as dramatic as going straight from 60 to 30.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 01:03 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | sabin1981 wrote: | | The_Zeel wrote: |
i d rather play a game on low-medium settings at 60 fps, than veryhigh/ultra at 30 fps, but maybe its just me. |
Likewise. Framerate is very much a real THING for me, I can see and *feel* the smoothness faltering when it drops below 60 and it's incredibly uncomfortable. Just like some people have very real physical reactions to low field of view, I have that with low framerate, especially on action/fast-paced 3D games - with sprites/2D/etc I tend to have less problems with 30fps. |
Have You tried my method of cheating brain?
First play in 60 and adore it.
Then set to 15 and endure this shit for like 5-15minutes.
Then switch to 30 and it will seem as smooth as 60 to Your brain.
Just use radeonpro or nvidia framerate cap
Its working on me. It can still be felt that it is 30fps ofc. But the difference is not as dramatic as going straight from 60 to 30. |
You can't fucking "trick a brain" like that.
You're either highly sensitive to framerates or you're not. The posters above? They are. You? Apparently not.
That is honestly some of the stupidest shit I have read in a long time. Most games fluctuate fps by themselves anyways. That's the nature of graphically demanding games. If your "method" worked, no one would be complaining because they'd be used to all kinds of fps.
Except in the end, it's not about what your brain has been exposed to for 5, 10, etc minutes (years? Maybe). 60 fps is smoother than 30. It's that simple.
"Then switch to 30 and it will seem as smooth as 60 to Your brain."
No, no it won't. Not to me, and not to anyone with any sort of fps perception.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 01:04 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 01:51 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 02:24 Post subject: |
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What do you want me to say? You want me to agree with you and say that 30fps is fine? It isn't. It never was and never will be, it's terrible for most games and barely/merely passable for others, just because I can tolerate shitty framerate in order to play an exclusive doesn't mean it was acceptable or that it wasn't incredibly unpleasant. The thing about you KC is that you categorically refuse to accept that you are not the World® and that your likes, your preferences and your tolerances are not the only ones that matter. Just because YOU accept 30fps, just because YOU fool your brain into thinking 30fps is "smooth" (relativity: 30fps is smoothER than 15fps but it's not smooth, not to me and not to a lot of gamers. If it wasn't a problem as you say, then why the fuck do so many people complain about it, hm?) does not mean that the rest of the world should just fuck off and shut up, because KC commands it. Yanno?
Same with the fucking FOV shit you consistently brush aside with the "I never had a problem" as if that's all that matters and fuck the rest of the world. No offence, but that's a spiteful attitude to have. Low FOV can, and does, negatively affect an enormous amount of people - it causes headaches, disorientation and nausea. So when some of us ask for OPTIONS in games, such as a slider or adjustment setting, you whine about how "I don't have a problem" as if to say "fuck you world" - it's really quite ignorant and infuriating. Adding an option harms you in no way nor does adding an option harm anybody else in any way whatsoever, but not having the option affects a great many people in incredibly unpleasant ways. This is FACT. Yet you still mock, insult and belittle people that demand FOV adjustments. So rather than sitting there and constantly insulting people by calling them "PC Elitists" (yet never missing a single opportunity to brag about how you use downsampling on everything because of "teh jaggies"), why don't you stop and think "You know what? Perhaps these guys have a point. Perhaps not everyone can easily adjust to low framerate, perhaps not everyone WANTS to adjust to low framerate, perhaps not everyone can sit back and accept shit when its shovelled down their throats. I think I'll stop antagonising people and just accept that subjectivity is primary here, not my desires and not my preferences"
I think you'd get far less shit off everyone and some more friendlier responses.
Meh, I'm done here. I didn't even like LoS in the first place, so I have even less desire for its shitbag sequel with its laughable framerate cap.
| KillerCrocker wrote: | | Whatever. Millions of people are fully enjoying games on 360 and ps3 and not noticing 30fps slowness. Just ask them if it is impossible to play with 30fps. |
Billions of people believe in a magical sky wizard and his zombie son. What's your point? Nobody said playing at 30fps is impossible, just that for a great many people - PC gamers especially - it's unpleasant.
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 02:26 Post subject: |
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Where is ixi and his KC gif, can't find it now 
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 02:34 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: |
Whatever. Millions of people are fully enjoying games on 360 and ps3 and not noticing 30fps slowness. Just ask them if it is impossible to play with 30fps. |
Your arguments always rest on the comforting little thought that we're missing out on all these games and you're the magic little creature that adapts to and enjoys everything. Except...no. Tolerance for shitty fps isn't some kind of gift or skill. Everyone and anyone can, and probably has to, do it occasionally. Dark Souls, GTAIV, Saints Row 2, etc. All with performance issues or framerate locks and a lot of us still played them before patches/fixes came out.
So you're not some special gamer that's evolved to eat shit. Any gamer with standards today has had to put up with shit. You just happen to like the taste and get overly sensitive/defensive when someone else gags from the stink.
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 02:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 6th Sep 2013 18:57 Post subject: |
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Back on topic: I've played a little of the game (first 5-6 map locations). It's ok, I guess. There hasn't been anything that makes it stand out so far, gameplay-wise.
Not sure why they put a fixed camera in LoS, though. Often there are enemies past the bottom of the screen and I have to just walk face first into enemy attacks to see where they are. Or stand there and wait for them to come to me, which breaks the flow of combat.
To be honest, I'm having more fun with Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows.
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Sep 2013 16:57 Post subject: |
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Just finished LoS UE...
First of all,i'm from Spain and whenever i've heard this game was made by spanish people (so i heard?) i tought "Gonna be kinda fail"
I WAS WRONG!,IT ROCKS!!!...Sadly,sometimes dodging isn't the best...i've been taught to Block Timing to counterattack,but most of the times i've failed so much i ended "They see me ROOOOLLING...THEY HAAATIIIIIN..."
Graphics are Epic and 120hz i could feel the beautifulness of the details and all 60FPS all the time with sweeeeeet smoothness..sometimes controls were a bitch (Specially climbing,sometimes you're supposed to go up but Gabriel didn't!)
sadly i had 3/4 for all of the upgrades (health,good+evil powers) since the soldiers were very well hidden and ofcourse it's a 1st playthrough...though a scene from the "coloured lens" (or something),the room at your right,had a soldier with easy access!..sadly,Gabriel cant even climb down a ledge to side-go there ¬¬...nor even jump a little bar!
Sadly,i had to use a guide for certain moments of the game's puzzles and skip the Chess puzzle...Nobody can easily guess them out of the blue..."NOOB!"...yeah,so?,who doesn't ? 
Anyways,i give the game an 8.5..And recommended,ofcourse..
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Sep 2013 18:03 Post subject: |
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Puzzles weren't that hard tbh, the only time I had to restart puzzle once was Chess battle because I didn't read properly about the double/triple turns.
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