Old guy rant
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madmax17




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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 12:56    Post subject: Old guy rant
Found this rant on the internet it just made me laugh Very Happy has technology really made our lives that much easier than before? That can't be good for evolution, we'll just get lazier and lazier, not to mention fatter and probably more stupid Very Happy


When I was a kid, adults used to bore me to tears with their tedious diatribes about how hard things were. When they were growing up; What with walking twenty-five miles to school morning...Uphill...barefoot, Both ways....yadda, yadda, yadda....

And I remember promising myself that when I grew up, there was no way in hell I was going to lay a bunch of crap like that on my kids about How hard I had it and how easy they've got it!

But now that I'm over the ripe old age of forty, I can't help but look around and notice the youth of today. You've got it so easy! I mean compared to my childhood, you live in a damn Utopia! and I hate to say it, but you kids today, you don't know how good you've got it!

I mean, when I was a kid we didn't have the internet. If we wanted to know something, we had to go to the damn library and look it up ourselves, in the card catalog!!

There was no email!! We had to actually write somebody a letter-with a pen! and no spell check! then you had to walk all the way across the street and put it in the mailbox, and it would take like a week to get there.

Child Protective Services didn't care if our parents beat us. As a matter of fact, the parents of all my friends also had permission to kick our ass! Nowhere was safe!

There were no MP3's, Napsters, iTune, or ipods! If you wanted to steal music, you had to hitchhike to the record store and shoplift it yourself! Or you had to wait around all day to tape it off the radio, and the DJ would usually talk over the beginning and @#% it all up! there were no CD Players! We had tape decks in our car. We'd play our favorite tape and "eject" it when finished, and then the tape would come undone rendering it useless. Cause, hey that's how we rolled, Baby! Dig?

And talk of hardship? You couldn't just download porn! You had to steal it from your brother or bribe some homeless dude to buy you a copy of "Hustler" at the 7-11! It was either that or the lingerie section of the JC Penny catalog those were your options!

We didn't have fancy crap like call waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called they got a busy signal, that's it! And we didn't have fancy Caller ID boxes either! When the phone rang, you had no idea who it was! It could be your school, your mom, your boss, your bookie, your drug dealer, a collections agent, you just didn't know!!! You had to pick it up and take your chances, mister!

There weren't any freakin' cell phones either. If you left the house, you just didn't make a damn call or receive one. You Actually had to be out of touch with your "friends" OH MY GOSH!!!! Think of the horror... not being intouch with someone 24/7!!! And then there's TEXTING. Yeah, right. Please! you kids have no idea how annoying you are.

We didn't have any fancy Sony Playstation video games with high-resolution 3-D graphics! We had Atari 2600! with games like "Space Invaders" and "asteroids" and the graphics sucked ***! Your guy was a little square! you actually had to use your imagination! And there were no multiple levels or screens, it was just one screen forever! And you could never win. The game just kept getting harder and harder and faster and faster until you died! Just Like LIFE!

When you went to a movie theater there was no such thing as stadium seating! All the seats were the same height! If a tall guy ore some old broad with a hat sat in front of you and you couldn't see, you were just screwed!

You had to use a little called the TV Guide to find out what was on TV! You were screwed when it came to channel surfing! You had to get off your ass and walk over to the TV to change the Channel!! NO REMOTES!!! Oh,no what is the world coming to?!?!

There was no Cartoon Network either! you could only get cartoons on Saturday Morning. Do you hear what I'm saying, we had to wait ALL WEEK for cartoons, you spoiled little rat bastards!


And we didn't have microwaves, If we wanted to heat something up, we had to use the stove or go build a frigging fire... imagine that! If we wanted to pop popcorn, we had to use that stupid Jiffy POP thing and shake it over the stove forever like an idiot.

And our parents told us to stay outside and play... all day long. Oh, no electronics to soothe and comfort. And if you came back inside.. you were doing chores!


And car seats-Oh, please! mom threw you in the back seat and you hung on. And if you were lucky you got the "safety arm" across the chest at the last moment if she had to stop suddenly, and if your head hit the dashboard, well that your fault for calling "shot gun" in the first place!

See! That's exactly what I'm talking about! You kids have got it too damn easy! You're spoiled rotten! You guys wouldn't have lasted five minutes back in 1987 or any time before!
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 13:12    Post subject:
Yeah, good times Smile

Including saturday morning cartoons, like waiting a whole week for a season 2 Transformers episode just so I can record that new intro song on my tape recorder, and it sounded like shit when re-played, but I didn't fuckin' care Very Happy

And in the second half of elementary school when we discovered porn, there were like two video tapes (in total) passed from hand to hand through the entire class in a veill of secret, and look at it now, you just type an address and there's shitload of low IQ latino bitches sucking dicks for money, where's fun in that!


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 13:13    Post subject:
Old Guy sounds awesome Very Happy I remember all that, quite fondly too \o/
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 13:34    Post subject:
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We didn't have fancy crap like call waiting! If you were on the phone and somebody else called they got a busy signal, that's it!



Hmmmm, that's still the case in Poland I think. Definitely for me anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 13:40    Post subject:
i'm 33 and i approve with this message. F'cking spoiled brats of today !
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 14:07    Post subject:
oh hell why bring back those fucking thoughts.. lol.

I try to keep the thoughts to ulysees 31, battle of the planets, and the simplicity of getting into a girls panties was to be honest less hassle.

other than that keep the parental part, ill keep the music though.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 14:11    Post subject:
I still remember the expression in my grandfather's face after I asked him how it hard it was for his own grandfather, and then having him realize that it's (almost) always like this.

The new generations always have it easier... unless that particular family is rich or there's some kind of major event(like a war or something) that disrupts the cycle for one generation or so.


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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 14:15    Post subject:
I'm strictly speaking from where I come from:

I'd say kids today may seem to have it easier, but economically times have changed aswell since the early 00s. Finding good jobs and making a career in them has become alot more difficult in these days than it was in my parents time.

Obviously technology has advanced, but I dont feel like I really had such hardships when I was younger, compared to the kids today.

Me and many of my friends had mothers/fathers that had time for us, time to learn with us, to prepare for school etc. I'm a teacher so I see kids from all the social classes and one thing they do have in common is parents without time for them. Now the school has to compensate for that and adapt to this change and I really think it has become more difficult for them to get good grades unless unless the system becomes easier in which case they dont become as smart. I'm not saying mothers should stay at home with the children, not at all. I'm just saying parents nowadays have less time to dedicate to their child (and give them their sole attention) than they used to in my time.

So while these 12y old kids are oversaturated with COD/PORN/FAISBUK, I dont envy them for one single minute. They may appear spoiled having the latest smartphones and flat-rate internet access, but they could very well lack some more essential things and their future (especially here in Europe) does not look that bright. (This could be very different for other countries).


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 14:18    Post subject:
Kids these days might have it easy in their early days but as soon as mama's credit card ends they're in for quite a shitty ride.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 14:41    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
I'm strictly speaking from where I come from:

I'd say kids today may seem to have it easier, but economically times have changed aswell since the early 00s. Finding good jobs and making a career in them has become alot more difficult in these days than it was in my parents time.

Obviously technology has advanced, but I dont feel like I really had such hardships when I was younger, compared to the kids today.

Me and many of my friends had mothers/fathers that had time for us, time to learn with us, to prepare for school etc. I'm a teacher so I see kids from all the social classes and one thing they do have in common is parents without time for them. Now the school has to compensate for that and adapt to this change and I really think it has become more difficult for them to get good grades unless unless the system becomes easier in which case they dont become as smart. I'm not saying mothers should stay at home with the children, not at all. I'm just saying parents nowadays have less time to dedicate to their child (and give them their sole attention) than they used to in my time.

So while these 12y old kids are oversaturated with COD/PORN/FAISBUK, I dont envy them for one single minute. They may appear spoiled having the latest smartphones and flat-rate internet access, but they could very well lack some more essential things and their future (especially here in Europe) does not look that bright. (This could be very different for other countries).


how old are you ? Because we're not talking 10 years ago here^^. We're talking 20-30 years ago Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 14:45    Post subject:
With the early 00s I meant 9/11 and the subsequent security>freedom crap and the 2008 crisis (which isnt "early 00s, but whatever).

I was born in 1981 btw. Smile


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 14:51    Post subject:
well, 9/11 only really concerned the US. I don't recall anything about it here (i.e. it changing anything about our day to day lives).

And this isn't about economics or anything anyway. Dunno why you tried to twist that into it hehe.

This is simply about the technology we had and have and how our parents used to "educate" us or how we lived. Nothing about that is in any way economical dependent.

Heck, it's hardly even socially explained. Because we're still in the same society today as we were back then. It's simply a matter of habits and our surroundings.

Also i doubt that a kid would really grasp (or care) about such events as crap/11 lol. Let alone letting it influence his childhood or that it would influence how the parents interact with that child (besides adding some racism to the mix, but that isn't really new either).
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 14:57    Post subject:
I didnt try to twist anything I just wanted to add that technology may have made their lives easier, but thats just on the surface. I would say that fundamentally their lives are more difficult than ours were. Its my opinion based on my observations.


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 15:01    Post subject:
i think you missed the initials posts message. It's a joke. the whole thing.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 15:04    Post subject:
And my post wasnt a joke. Sorry about that.


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 15:05    Post subject:
i think you took the whole thing a tad too serious Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 15:08    Post subject:
Life is serious business man. Very Happy

(It happens to me all the time, though not just on the net)


"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 16:13    Post subject:
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Fuck cassettes. Mad


We had to, on a regular basis Laughing

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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 16:22    Post subject:
The only way to get a copy of a game my buddies would brag they had while loading it on my computer to show me and let me play it for a bit, because back then new releases were brutaly kept to oneself where I lived and if you got it early it was a prize lol

so when they would show it to me I would distract them and quickly hit the record button with a blank in the other side ready and waiting Very Happy

Thank fuck this shit media for gaming is no longer ...

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moosenoodles wrote:
The only way to get a copy of a game my buddies would brag they had while loading it on my computer to show me and let me play it for a bit, because back then new releases were brutaly kept to oneself where I lived and if you got it early it was a prize lol


Sheesh, your friends sounded brutal Razz Everyone I knew were tape-swapping/loaning all the time! I had a friend that used to give me half a dozen tapes to copy, same with diskettes in the Amiga days Very Happy I know what you mean about copying them though, it was my mum that got into that, haha!

moosenoodles wrote:
Thank fuck this shit media for gaming is no longer ...


What? You mean you DIDN'T like playing Street Fighter 2 on the C64 and waiting 2 minutes for each fight to load? Pfft Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 16:26    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
moosenoodles wrote:
The only way to get a copy of a game my buddies would brag they had while loading it on my computer to show me and let me play it for a bit, because back then new releases were brutaly kept to oneself where I lived and if you got it early it was a prize lol


Sheesh, your friends sounded brutal Razz Everyone I knew were tape-swapping/loaning all the time! I had a friend that used to give me half a dozen tapes to copy, same with diskettes in the Amiga days Very Happy I know what you mean about copying them though, it was my mum that got into that, haha!


yeah it was rough in sussex Very Happy all the village guys where I lived were like fuck off its mine!!! u can wait etc, even so called buddies lol.. it was amusing though, we used to had to beg borrow and sell at school also, making multiple tapes up of games and selling them with print offs of what I had available on that zx spectrum printer paper Very Happy that silver shiny stuff where the letters were just burnt into it lol.
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 16:29    Post subject:
Aw man Very Happy We used to do much the same, having multi-game cassettes with the inlay card that had datasette numbers written in, so that you knew where you had to fast-forward the tape to in order to load the game.

000 Monty on the Run
244 Draconus
390 IK+

etc...
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 16:34    Post subject:
Monty mole!!! lol Very Happy god that game...
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PostPosted: Sun, 8th Sep 2013 16:41    Post subject:
and hundreds of copied floppies with thousands of viruses on them, with the most horrible names possible.
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 01:25    Post subject:
I don't know about you guys, but I was a lot happier when life was 'simpler' (some will say "harder", but I disagree Very Happy). All the technological advancements and forms of entertainment available today are awesome, but they're making me much more stressful than I used to be.

Not to mention the fact that they're draining all my resources and free time. Sometimes I think I would have had a better life if I was born in the 70s. Either that, or I'd be already dead. xD
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 12:20    Post subject:
I think it's definitely easier and it's only more stressful if you let it to be, like if you don't have the strength to turn off your cell phone and people keep bothering you Very Happy

And you can always go to back to simpler life, toss all your electronics out the window and become Mario the fisherman Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 9th Sep 2013 13:00    Post subject:
Laughing Mario the fisherman xD


Well I always think how my parents had id better than me: they were in their 20's through 1970's which was great music era, my dad played guitar in a band, they socialized more face to face, which is something that is not present that much. They had jobs after finishing school.

But then again, I'm a tech nerd. I love new technology, and seeing what science can do. We have come so far in that respect that I don't really think I'd change it. I like the internet. I like that I have information at the tip of my fingertips. And frankly, as gay guy, I'd rather live in this age where, comparing to the 70's, there is much more freedom in that respect. Not to mention finding somebody is much easier now than it was then...


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