Board & CPU 2013
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Sep 2013 03:51    Post subject: Board & CPU 2013
Best motherboard and CPU for gaming to compliment my 780 guys. Money no object, but sensibility required Wink

Coming from an P8Z68-V PRO (Gen3) with a 2600k and 8GB Ram.

Input much appreciated Smile
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Sep 2013 03:59    Post subject:
Why change at all? Your 2600k is excellent, clock that to 4.5Ghz (and beyond! Spend some money on a good water kit and then pump some volts into that sucker) and you simply don't need anything else - it's already great enough on its own. I'm still running my own P8Z68-V PRO with a 2500k and see absolutely no reason to upgrade now or for the foreseeable future. If/when XB/PS4 lousy ports start coming out that require octocore procs, I'll upgrade.
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Sep 2013 04:27    Post subject: Re: Board & CPU 2013
scaramonga wrote:
Best motherboard and CPU for gaming to compliment my 780 guys. Money no object, but sensibility required Wink

Coming from an P8Z68-V PRO (Gen3) with a 2600k and 8GB Ram.

Input much appreciated Smile



Put watercooling in, OC it, enjoy not having to upgrade everything. When you upgrade motherboard/cpu, get a new waterblock, you're good to go.


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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Sep 2013 05:04    Post subject:
Thx guys Smile

Yeah I have it watercooled already guys lol;), but my case needs renewing badly, old Stacker ST-101 modified by myself (years ago), front ports all fucked, lookin bad etc, so if I'm gonna rip it all out, then I may as well fit a new board in my new case (giving myself an excuse, twisting arm and all lol) Razz

Ya know, I'm getting on now Wink, and don't want to be doing this again, so, last ever home build, oh yes! Mean it this time Very Happy

Awesome feedback my friends! Smile Smile Smile
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Sep 2013 07:37    Post subject:
But your both right lol! Very Happy Very Happy Razz
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Sep 2013 05:06    Post subject:
Goin for the 'Sabertooth' board I think lol Razz
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Sep 2013 08:30    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
I have your exact CPU and MB, no reason to upgrade yet whatsoever


Not to mention there is no upgrade available, unless you count like 10% performance increase as upgrade, which cannot be seen In real world. By the time 2600k is not cutting it for gaming, everything is shit. Ofcourse there are intel Extreme, but those are not that much of gaming processors.
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DV2




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Sep 2013 17:13    Post subject:
No need to upgrade,Mah Boooy..I've got the same P8Z68-V PRO GEN3 + Intel 2500K + 8GB DDR3 1333mhz + 660GTX Ti OC 2GB and i'm very happy for it

Just like they said,whenever PS4/X1 ports comes and they need serious power,try playing them first..if they bottleneck you,then it'll be the time

But meanwhile NO


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Stige




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Sep 2013 17:44    Post subject:
Yeah, just gonna say it again.

Do not "upgrade"

If you got an actual water cooler, custom loop stuff and not that closed loop crap then you will only lose performance because your 2600K will overclock way higher than any new crap unless you delid that new crap.
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 01:54    Post subject:
Ended up wasting money and replacing most Rolling Eyes

Went with MSI for a change, board has been getting great reviews, been ASUS most of my PC days, but fancied a change Smile

NZXT Switch 810 Matte Black Case
MSI Z87-GD65 GAMING
Intel Core i7 4770K
G.Skill 16GB DDR3 2400MHz TridentX
Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper RAD

Threw in a couple of Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB, which I'll run in RAID 0 for storage purposes, to compliment my 840 Pro SSD.

Should do me for a few months, way to waste a grand!! lol Twisted Evil Razz
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 02:15    Post subject:
Jesus... hahaha. Oh well, it's not like you bought shit stuff, so congratulations I guess Very Happy Unnecessary, but fun nonetheless Very Happy
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 02:24    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Jesus... hahaha. Oh well, it's not like you bought shit stuff, so congratulations I guess Very Happy Unnecessary, but fun nonetheless Very Happy


But Haswell == Shit???
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 03:02    Post subject:
I wouldn't say shit, just not as OCable as Sandy, and runs hotter for the fun of it too Laughing
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scaramonga




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 03:57    Post subject:
Stige wrote:

But Haswell == Shit???


Been running my 2600k @ 5ghz since bought, and the main reason for that is, its always fuckin freezing here lol!, all year round Wink and my RAD's ass stuck out the window, so to speak Very Happy

I'll be happy with 4.7ghz on the heated Hasboyz, I love a challenge Wink
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DV2




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 07:27    Post subject:
Now that we're kinda in topic..

I've got 2 8GB 1333mhz DDR3 RAM Sticks in my MoBo...using W7 64bits,would it be worth/useful to upgrade it with 2 more sticks so it goes up to 16GB?...I use Adobe Premiere Pro CC and Photoshop/Illustrator CS6 and multitasking

PS: They're Kingston sticks


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 08:05    Post subject:
So wait you replaced 5ghz sandy i7 with haswell i7??.... Talking about some really bad choice Laughing anyway gz i guess ! Smile in next couple months i will be upgrading my rig with 500€ worth of watercooling, hardware upgrade will be when skylake comes (if even then). What voltages you were running the 2600k?.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Sep 2013 09:37    Post subject:
Fucking rich pricks Sad


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jippyuk




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 12:37    Post subject:
Planning on grabbing myself an i5 3750K to replace my slowly dying i5-750 cpu which is starting to give me issues and wanting to do a cpu /mobo refresh anyway now that bF4 is coming around.

currently got a gtx670 which I hope should be able to handle this thing for now.

My question is what mobo should I really be aiming at to support this nice chip and gfx card setup I have.

currently running a crucial m4 SSD as well so the sata3 interface (old was only sata2) should be a bit of performance bump as well.

I've generally always gone for pretty low end mobos, not wanting to spend 200 euro or something daft on a mobo, not interested in bluetooth wireless and stuff but will be using the onboard soundcard so something you guys can recommend would be appreciated.

Typically looking at asus / gigabyte or asrock?


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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 13:28    Post subject:
ASUS/MSI are propably the way to go, do not touch AsRock Z77 series, the E4 has shit MOSFETs and all Z77 AsRock boards have erronous VCore reporting, it can be as much as 0.1 higher than CPU-Z is telling you.
More on AsRock here: http://www.overclock.net/t/1360404/asrock-z77-series-vcore-reading
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jippyuk




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 14:02    Post subject:
Okay thx for the heads up. So any recommended models? Toms hardware has monthly cpu recommendations but not for motherboards.


i5 -3570k
8GB DDR 3
Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti Gaming G1
32GB of terrible skill @ FPS games.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 14:07    Post subject:
jippyuk wrote:
Okay thx for the heads up. So any recommended models? Toms hardware has monthly cpu recommendations but not for motherboards.


P8Z77-V should do fine, not sure about the MSI models.
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DV2




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 15:53    Post subject:
DV2 wrote:
Now that we're kinda in topic..

I've got 2 8GB 1333mhz DDR3 RAM Sticks in my MoBo...using W7 64bits,would it be worth/useful to upgrade it with 2 more sticks so it goes up to 16GB?...I use Adobe Premiere Pro CC and Photoshop/Illustrator CS6 and multitasking

PS: They're Kingston sticks


Anyone?..


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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 17:56    Post subject:
Wait what... You have 2x 8GB sticks (16Gb) and you want to add 2 more stick to get 16GB?
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DV2




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 21:54    Post subject:
SHIT My apologies!,i meant 2x4GB X___X


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Stige




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 22:05    Post subject:
Honestly? No unless you plan on using it for RamDisk aswell, otherwise the extra RAM won't help you in any way.
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jippyuk




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Sep 2013 16:58    Post subject:
looking at games like battlefield 4 and arma 3 and new gen games coming out. My i5-750 running ddr 3 (1333mhz) on a asus p7p55d - le board is starting to show its age. running a crucial m4 which is only connected on sata 2 so not spreading its legs fully anyway and a gtx 670 which i suspect isnt working at its full potential anyway.

question....

pushing across to a P8Z77-V with an i5 3570k and some 8gb of ddr3 at 1600mhz... am i likely to see a fairly bit improvement performance wise in games or you think its money wasted? think ive got the 750 running at about 4ghz and seems happy enough but still not sure if the board and cpu im using are just bottlenecking my system somehow now.

advice?

p.s I could in theory just keep the 1333 ddr3 8gb i have no if you guys dont think its going to make much noticable difference in the new setup?


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Gigabyte GTX 980 Ti Gaming G1
32GB of terrible skill @ FPS games.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Sep 2013 17:15    Post subject:
Well you're not really losing all that much performance from your M4 on SATA2, so upgrading the board *just* for SATA3 isn't really worth it. If it's that much of a bother you could just buy a SATA3 PCI-E addon card and run your HDD from that. As for the GPU? PCIE2.0 is absolutely fine for that as well, I don't see anything that would be a bottle-neck for your system - 4Ghz is a nice speed for the i5-750 (tried going higher? 4.4Ghz shouldn't be out the question on that) and the GTX670 isn't being held back by anything on the motherboard either.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sata-6gbps-performance-sata-3gbps,3110.html
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/07/18/pci_express_20_vs_30_gpu_gaming_performance_review#.UkL9vrOmV3E

Upgrade if you WANT but know that it's not REQUIRED Smile

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32GB of terrible skill @ FPS games.


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jippyuk




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Sep 2013 17:21    Post subject:
what about the cpu? its an 09 chip as i recall the 750.... you think that even sat on a new board with a 3570k im not giong to notice big differences?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Sep 2013 17:24    Post subject:
Oh no, if you upgrade to a 3570k you're going to notice a significant difference Very Happy
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