Pro Evolution Soccer 2014
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dannofdawn




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 17:11    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
i meant by ping pong that u can do perfect 1touch passes for like 10 times a row or the first touch is so fast that it doesnt really matter if you pass with 2 touches, its still fast. Havent tried the game yet so cant comment on how it really feels tho


I just went thru the whole performance training to see the changes to controls. I do see what you mean by ping pong passes. It was possible in 2013, now players can't seem to be able to do first touch passes towards all angle, position and footwork can mean a first touch pass or a 2 touch pass. Unfortunately because the person playing game will still try to press pass before the ball is trapped to try to do a first touch, if the player (on the field) couldn't do it, it will automatically do a 2 touch pass. So the outcome will not always be as predictable, which is connected to the whole responsiveness problem to a certain extent I believe.

As for the general responsiveness with passing and shooting, I do feel this iteration is slower than 2013. The ball speed is slower and not very powerful. Just like the previous titles, the dynamic range of the speed of the ball is too narrow. IRL, we can sometimes see floaty, slow shots, but then we will also see absolute thunderbolts. The range of speed IRL is huge, this game can't seem to do it. This can be fixed when gameplay tool comes out though.

However if there is one thing i really like so far is the advance shooting feature. This time it feels like it is a more practical controlled shooting than last year's manual shooting. It is a lot easier to control what kind of shot you want to take and where you want to put it.

Auto-feint is also a brilliant feature. Instead of having to memorize commands like in a fighting game, you can pull of feints through instinct alone. Which I feel is a lot more natural to control. It is also much better than link feints, which was just silly imo.
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lgor007




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 17:34    Post subject:
Anyone know where is statistics/data pack upgrade, i can't find it?
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 17:44    Post subject:
is this game out yet? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE
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loladass




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 17:49    Post subject:
lgor007 wrote:
Anyone know where is statistics/data pack upgrade, i can't find it?


cant find it either.Maybe we have to wait until the game is released because maybe servers are offline.
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demde




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 18:19    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
is this game out yet? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE


Confused Confused Its out from about 20 hours. Playing it whole day.


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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 18:43    Post subject:
official streetdate you moron... why should konami provide a tranfer/roster update if the game isnt out officially? eu tomorrow, us next week

and btw: pc version looks as crappy as 360, even massive slowdowns present on replays and loading (i.e. for goal kick). annoys the crap out of me, no smooth gameplay possible
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 18:48    Post subject:
madness wrote:
Is this just fanboy talk or is the game really good? Damn gotta try it myself Laughing


Actually you're more likely to find FIFA fanboy's negative comments Laughing

The game is far from perfect as I expected (PES 15 should be the more polished experience with the new engine) but it's so much deeper than FIFA. You have to keep in mind that you're gonna need a good amount of practice to get comfortable with the many mechanics and controls. Also, when you see what you've been learning put into practice during a match, it's just beautiful and so diverse. This is not to mention the much superior graphics.

This is a more hardcore football game (still far from Sim though), but if you prefer a more accessible experience then by al means stay with FIFA. I know I couldn't as I get bored so easily with those games.
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Sohei




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 18:49    Post subject:
After training a bit and understanding game mechanics a little bit more, my opinion of the game has changed for the better, altough i wish shooting felt like fifa 14, theres no real sense of power on shots most of the time, or curling.
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demde




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 19:04    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
official streetdate you moron...


Watch you words m8! Easy to insult behind the monitor...


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MishkiN




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 19:40    Post subject:
Has anyone managed to install the data pack? Statistics from the main menu?! Is that engrish for settings? Confused
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MishkiN




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 19:41    Post subject:
Has anyone managed to install the data pack? Statistics from the main menu?! Is that engrish for settings? Confused
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demde




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 19:57    Post subject:
Pro.Evolution.Soccer.2014-RELOADED


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Snoepgun




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 20:00    Post subject:
Yup, saw that, Got pushover. You were first lol Laughing

Now, FIFA... LEAK! Very Happy
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madness




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 20:14    Post subject:
No, read the rules.
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ace2kx




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 21:26    Post subject:
demde wrote:
Pro.Evolution.Soccer.2014-RELOADED


Thanks men for great info.
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trollpower




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 21:37    Post subject:



ingame screenshots... sure sure... installed this crap, maxed it out » MY EYES » uninstall
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demde




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 21:39    Post subject:
They may be ingame... no one said they are not photoshoped Laughing


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Sohei




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 21:40    Post subject:
Well those are ingame screens, but with level of detail on max from replay cams, when the game is on gameplay camera the level of detail is not quite so high.
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noflip




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 22:14    Post subject:
i'm sorry, but the game sucks.
i hate FIFA series, i really do, but i will not fake a smile and pretend that this game is what i saw from all of those videos.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 22:23    Post subject:
What do you mean it's not what you saw in the videos? It's exactly what we all saw. I can understand if you didn't like what you saw in the promos right from the start, and hence that you don't like the game. But saying the game just "released" isn't the same as in the promos sounds a bit out of place to me to say the least Scratch Head
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 23:05    Post subject:
Missing languages for those with 3DM CloneDVD
(German, French, Italian commentary + Menus & Turkish, Russian, Dutch menu only)

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shadak




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 23:15    Post subject:
Something is a little off. I get strange suttering in replays but Fraps reports 150 fps and 500 during gameplay :S
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lunkentuss




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 23:25    Post subject:
Played about 10 games and after i have earlier tried the fifa 14 demo i would say fifa 14 is way ahead of pes this year. To bad because i hate EA as comapny
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NoLiMiTSoLDieR




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 23:32    Post subject:
shadak wrote:
Something is a little off. I get strange suttering in replays but Fraps reports 150 fps and 500 during gameplay :S


PES dont like playing without V-sync, make sure to force it in PES settings.
That was with all the previous games dont think this will be any different.


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Sep 2013 23:59    Post subject:
I can confirm the odd sensation of stuttering. Hopefully it's the kind of performance problem that should be fixed with a patch.
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shadak




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 00:07    Post subject:
NoLiMiTSoLDieR wrote:
shadak wrote:
Something is a little off. I get strange suttering in replays but Fraps reports 150 fps and 500 during gameplay :S


PES dont like playing without V-sync, make sure to force it in PES settings.
That was with all the previous games dont think this will be any different.


Thanks I now remember that fixed it in 2013 but I dont like v-sync I get that inner feeling of additional lag Smile
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fable2




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 00:09    Post subject:
okay i tried it, and i am not liking what they have done at all, everything feels sluggish and unresponsive, one touch passes are impossible to make without even hitting their intended target, hell even normal pass play is slow and you will waste many opportunities waiting for the player to fuckin pass the god damn ball already.
i have been a PES fanboy for a long time and this definitely doesn't feel like PES at all Sad

Animations are better though and more varied, guess I'll try to play some more, but all in all it seems i'll be playing Fifa a lot more this year, which i liked.
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demde




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 00:12    Post subject:
So what FIFA fans go to PES camp and PES fans go to FIFA camp this year? Laughing

Personally i liked FIFA more last 3-4 years, but after i tried the demo and pes i like pes more.
Will give another chance to FIFA when its out, but for now i will stick with PES.


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fable2




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Sep 2013 00:14    Post subject:
demde wrote:
So what FIFA fans go to PES camp and PES fans go to FIFA camp this year? Laughing


Seems so Razz
PES is trying to be Fifa this year anyways, and not doing a good job at it.
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