Pro Evolution Soccer 2014
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bruasca




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 10:42    Post subject:
KONAMI must have the best marketing ever. I can't believe they managed to convince you folks to take input lag as a "feature" to increase realism. After playing for a few hours I can say that I am truly dissapointed with this. Maybe I was too hyped before release, but come on KONAMI, GK AI, non-robotic animations, control responsiveness, presentation, commentary...How hard can it be?!...it's been seven years now...

I won a Champions League title and an Europa League title on regular/professional difficulty and the only goals scored against me were scored after my keeper rejected the ball right to an opponent that was patiently waiting for that to happen. The only thing this has over Fifa is player running off the ball, which in Fifa 14 Demo was almost non-existing. I get it that KONAMI wants to make this game slow-paced, but at times this slowing feels artificial/forced... they slow the pace by making the players sloppy and the controls laggy. I guess it will be fifa 14 isodemo local multiplayer for me this year, because neither game has shown any major improvement.
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 10:44    Post subject:
speedgear wrote:
well i have to say after playing 5 hours in game pes2014 is a big piece of shit, even most of the fans boys are saying that this year they are going to see fifa 2014 and maybe buying fifa, well nothing new to me, since 2010 fifa is the king of football games.
well ill wait to see fifa 2014, but it couldnt be worst that this piece of crap.


Thank you for your collaboration. It's a pity that you can't dribble the whole opponent team with Christiano Ronaldo with 360's, 180's, 720's and score with the weak foot from 30m away.
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shadak




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 10:49    Post subject:
After playing PES on PC and FIFA on 360 I decided to give up on both and just go back to GTA etc for now Smile PES seems to have the better gameplay against CPU but I like FIFA controls and shooting. The AI is horrendous though, tried playing with the sliders which dont help that much sadly.
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 11:00    Post subject:
bruasca wrote:
KONAMI must have the best marketing ever. I can't believe they managed to convince you folks to take input lag as a "feature" to increase realism. After playing for a few hours I can say that I am truly dissapointed with this. Maybe I was too hyped before release, but come on KONAMI, GK AI, non-robotic animations, control responsiveness, presentation, commentary...How hard can it be?!...it's been seven years now...

I won a Champions League title and an Europa League title on regular/professional difficulty and the only goals scored against me were scored after my keeper rejected the ball right to an opponent that was patiently waiting for that to happen. The only thing this has over Fifa is player running off the ball, which in Fifa 14 Demo was almost non-existing. I get it that KONAMI wants to make this game slow-paced, but at times this slowing feels artificial/forced... they slow the pace by making the players sloppy and the controls laggy. I guess it will be fifa 14 isodemo local multiplayer for me this year, because neither game has shown any major improvement.


As 4treyu already mentioned, there is no input lag for many of us and everything is responsive. I can easily perform first time passes, 1-2's and first time shots without any input lag. I'm playing with X360 wireless controller if that helps.
Maybe I'm, like 4treyu, lucky because I almost never have technical issues with games.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 11:03    Post subject:
bruasca wrote:
KONAMI must have the best marketing ever. I can't believe they managed to convince you folks to take input lag as a "feature" to increase realism.


Let me make it clear for you, in case you just type away and don't read any previous posts:

Many of us don't experience any input lag.

I repeat...

Many of us do not experience input lag.

Only a few trolls here who do experience it (I won't call them liars) are calling it a feature Laughing

Btw, I'm already making headers and one-touch passes left and right Wink
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LOLBULLSHIT




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 11:39    Post subject:
Tried to like PES 2014 because I'm not going to buy FIFA this year but no. 20 matches played, uninstalled.
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Vikerness




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 12:45    Post subject:
why u no like pes ?!? Y U No????


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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 12:48    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
bruasca wrote:
KONAMI must have the best marketing ever. I can't believe they managed to convince you folks to take input lag as a "feature" to increase realism.


Let me make it clear for you, in case you just type away and don't read any previous posts:

Many of us don't experience any input lag.

I repeat...

Many of us do not experience input lag.

Only a few trolls here who do experience it (I won't call them liars) are calling it a feature Laughing

Btw, I'm already making headers and one-touch passes left and right Wink


u can do headers in the enemy's box too? Is there some weird ass timing thing I have to keep in mind? When I press the shoot button right before or just when the ball arrives, the player still takes it down and uses his foot :/


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madness




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 12:53    Post subject:
50% of my goals in first season of Become a Legend were headers.

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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 12:57    Post subject:
Vikerness wrote:
why u no like pes ?!? Y U No????


Nah, to be honest I understand why there's people who are disillusioned with football games today. They stay in the past while basketball, baseball, handegg (Laughing) and even F1 titles are deserving a simulator status (well maybe not F1, yet).

There's a reason why myself am not buying PES either, even when I think it's the superior game in comparison with the boring FIFA. It's just that it's the one that at least is now trying to get away from the past and make some due progress, but the debt is considerably high and it still has many faults that are unjustifiable in this time and age Razz

Who knows? Maybe it's too hard for KONAMI to compete against the giant EA who is content with just rehashing the same game year after year just adding a couple of unmeaningful "features" with fancy names (but securing all the licenses at the same time, maybe that's where the money goes). And even worse for us PC gamers, serving us some second table dishes (regional expression). But that shouldn't justify it either.

@kazemaky, yes there's some needed precise timing. Have you already played the tutorials? Also, remember to press the directional at the same time.
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 13:26    Post subject:
Ive done most of the tutorials and I can do headers out of the box to clear or pass the ball, but in the enemy's box it goes to shit.


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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:21    Post subject:
tbh i think theres is a massive inputlag! and has nothing to do with vsync off or not, its in the 360 version as well. so its a feature Very Happy meh dont like it, made around 20 games now. time to test the fifa final on xbox in a few mins
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Neo_McKane




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:26    Post subject:
Ofcourse it does.
With vsync on, i have a 1 second lag when changing players, tackling, shooting..
With vsync off, there is no lag at all, whatever i do.


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Pipili




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:32    Post subject:
Which game is harder to play, fifa14 or pes14? By harder i mean that you need to have more skill and use more buttons to do well?
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hitmanuk




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:45    Post subject:
is the patch crack available yet?
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:46    Post subject:
Pipili wrote:
Which game is harder to play, fifa14 or pes14? By harder i mean that you need to have more skill and use more buttons to do well?


PES14 no doubt (I've played both).

Btw, how do you guys disable Vsync? I'm not having input lag or low framerates whatsoever, but I'm curious as I didn't see the vsync option anywhere? Very Happy
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Neo_McKane




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:47    Post subject:
What's you pc spec? Confused

I did it via nvidia control panel..


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:51    Post subject:
Q9550 @ 3.4 Ghz + GTX 670 (and 8GB ram).

Oh, it's that easy? I wouldn't have imagined Razz


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bruasca




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:51    Post subject:
I really try to like this game but i fail at this Smile One more question: how can i make my players actually run in the direction that i point my left stick to and not on some invisible rails on a predefined direction towards the ball? Does it have to do with manual/advanced/basic controls or it's just the way the game is made?
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hitmanuk




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:56    Post subject:
bruasca wrote:
I really try to like this game but i fail at this Smile One more question: how can i make my players actually run in the direction that i point my left stick to and not on some invisible rails on a predefined direction towards the ball? Does it have to do with manual/advanced/basic controls or it's just the way the game is made?


i think hold left button and it will highlight another player then you can use right stick to direct him..i think
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 14:59    Post subject:
whats the manual control button for if i have everything set on manual already?


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imaiden




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 15:43    Post subject:
bruasca wrote:
I really try to like this game but i fail at this Smile One more question: how can i make my players actually run in the direction that i point my left stick to and not on some invisible rails on a predefined direction towards the ball? Does it have to do with manual/advanced/basic controls or it's just the way the game is made?

It's an old pes trick called super cancel, dunno if it's done the same way as before, but here it is in PES 2013:
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madness




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 15:48    Post subject:
Neo_McKane wrote:
Ofcourse it does.
With vsync on, i have a 1 second lag when changing players, tackling, shooting..
With vsync off, there is no lag at all, whatever i do.


Damn you are right Laughing Disabled vsync and now I can release pass/shoot button later than before.

But now the framerate seems less smooth..
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Neo_McKane




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 15:52    Post subject:
Exactly Sad
Can't stand the lag, but can't stand the choppy framerate neither..
Shame. I was really looking forward to this one..


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kingspace




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 16:39    Post subject:
For me it's the worst pes ever

I mean make slow animations doesn't make a game realistic , play every football game @15 FPS image/sec , is it realistic ? NO , it's just boring

btw someone could share the patch 1.01 files , i've some trouble with the installer , Hope it make it better
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 17:01    Post subject:
had some problems with the installer too, u just have to wait a few mins after clicking upgrade. the window disappears but it checks the game files in backround
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kingspace




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 17:19    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
had some problems with the installer too, u just have to wait a few mins after clicking upgrade. the window disappears but it checks the game files in backround

I had another problem , the installer said : you have to upgrade your windows installer in order to install .........

And cannot update my windows installer via windows update cause i've a pirated os Laughing

Some kind guys would share the updated files ?
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Janz




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 17:25    Post subject:
THE updated file Wink one moment, only exe changed as far as i can tell


edit: here you go,original 1.01 exe: hxxp://www33.zippyshare.com/v/82893036/file.html
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kingspace




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 17:45    Post subject:
Thank you so much bro Smile
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demde




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Sep 2013 18:59    Post subject:
hitmanuk wrote:
is the patch crack available yet?

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