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nightfire10




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 18:31    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
is that a language

E: now i have to start my damn master league all over :<


you say that to me ?
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Argie86




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 19:02    Post subject:
4treyu wrote:
So Much Win First the argentinian commentaries released yesterday


wat? where? Very Happy

Found it!!! thanks for the heads up anyway Very Happy
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 19:37    Post subject:
nightfire10 wrote:
kazemaky wrote:
is that a language

E: now i have to start my damn master league all over :<


you say that to me ?


yes it was meant for you, but i educated myself and its greek(?). Not used to seeing it in latin alphabet.


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nightfire10




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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Sep 2013 19:54    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
nightfire10 wrote:
kazemaky wrote:
is that a language

E: now i have to start my damn master league all over :<


you say that to me ?


yes it was meant for you, but i educated myself and its greek(?). Not used to seeing it in latin alphabet.


yeah its greek.alot of times we write greek in latin.we call it greekglish.we avoid the wrong grammar by saying what we want in latin very wrong ... but its easy writing
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Jace1709




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 06:23    Post subject:
What the fuck have they done to this game? For some reason they've decided to go backwards in gameplay, there is virtually no control over dead ball situations, its either left, right, centre, up or down, thats it, there used to be free movement.

Through balls are apparantly useless, unless the target player is COMPLETELY free, a defender will always intercept. My strong players are always out muscled, my fast players are always out paced, and it feels like my whole team is moving on thick mud.

Not to mention (even though i am indeed mentioning it) they still have at least hints of the classic PES annoyance, you can be winning 8-0 on one of the easier settings, and suddenly the opposition starts playing like Barcelona on thier good days, keeping the ball away from you at all times, and your only option is to foul them.

Now maybe i'm missing something in the options to fix all this, and i hope i am, but if THIS is the way Konami taking the series, forget it.
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 06:42    Post subject:
Yeah, sounds very odd to me. If the opposing defenders are always intercepting your thorugh balls then you need more practice. I don't know if you've realized it by now, but you can't expect from this game the easy peasy accessibility of FIFA. I've been replaying the tutorial on a daily basis so I can get the feel of the controls and memorize them. Believe me, it's very rewarding when you finally master any of the particular moves or plays. I would say through balls is one of the "easiest" to master, but still the AI defenders in this game are pretty good (for a football videogame that is) so even if you send amazing balls they might anticipate and intercept some of then. But all of them? No way, you need to keep training Razz
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madness




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 08:08    Post subject:
Your players are always outmuscled? Do you even use shoulder-barge...or how it was called? With the right stick.
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 12:07    Post subject:
ive had the before mentioned problem of players being on rails by now. Very annoying. When they run for a loose ball it becomes somewhat automatic and i cant really move them from their course.

Lots of times players just stand there when ball moves quite slowly right by them. In real life it shouldnt be a problem to take em.

GK AI is a fucking joke. I lost a game 4-0 and all goals were some weird ass gk movements.

I really dont like dribbling in this game. Some players (jovetic, silva) are just dribbling nonstop till they get to the goal. its like the end of the other side of the spectrum. In fifa no cpu players dribbled at all. Both suck :>

also im quite disappointed with master league. The menus are bad and clumsy, players are way too cheap, but im not sure if the new (at least for me) negotiation thingy is bad or not.

wouldnt have thought id miss the menus in fifa even though they werent that good themselves. :/

Still I refuse to give up on the damn game Very Happy If I now somehow mastered the controls, especially dribbling, Id most definitely have more fun.


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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 12:56    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
ive had the before mentioned problem of players being on rails by now. Very annoying. When they run for a loose ball it becomes somewhat automatic and i cant really move them from their course.


this is how it was in iss pro on ps 1 and its still the best football game ever Laughing
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 13:19    Post subject:
The on rails thing has been in fifa too and ive only noticed it inpes a few times so not the biggest problem.


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Sohei




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 14:15    Post subject:
Use super cancel (RB+RT) and you can move them wherever you want, usefull to receive passes that go slightly in wrong directions etc.
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 14:27    Post subject:
Sohei wrote:
Use super cancel (RB+RT) and you can move them wherever you want, usefull to receive passes that go slightly in wrong directions etc.


so when the player starts moving automatically to the ball, i have to press super cancel which stops me and i have to start running again, losing ground to my opponent who then gets the ball instead of me for sure?


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no9999




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 14:30    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
Sohei wrote:
Use super cancel (RB+RT) and you can move them wherever you want, usefull to receive passes that go slightly in wrong directions etc.


so when the player starts moving automatically to the ball, i have to press super cancel which stops me and i have to start running again, losing ground to my opponent who then gets the ball instead of me for sure?


Ahhh wasnt sensible soccer a great game....
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Sohei




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 14:55    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
Sohei wrote:
Use super cancel (RB+RT) and you can move them wherever you want, usefull to receive passes that go slightly in wrong directions etc.


so when the player starts moving automatically to the ball, i have to press super cancel which stops me and i have to start running again, losing ground to my opponent who then gets the ball instead of me for sure?


Doesnt stop me, your doing something wrong.
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 15:09    Post subject:
Sohei wrote:
kazemaky wrote:
Sohei wrote:
Use super cancel (RB+RT) and you can move them wherever you want, usefull to receive passes that go slightly in wrong directions etc.


so when the player starts moving automatically to the ball, i have to press super cancel which stops me and i have to start running again, losing ground to my opponent who then gets the ball instead of me for sure?


Doesnt stop me, your doing something wrong.


actually was speculating cynically, didnt really try it yet Very Happy


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 19:34    Post subject:
This thread has surely gone a long way to show that Nfohump football fans and steep learning curve don't mix together Very Happy (not talking about everyone here of course). You can do everything you want in the game, you just have to do the tutorials, read the command guides, practice, practice, practice, and learn it.

Now, if you're in the group of people that is experiencing input lag (not me particularly) I feel you and hope KONAMI gets that fixed for you Smile
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oblaz




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd Sep 2013 19:44    Post subject:
Good game but waiting for more patches Smile
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Sep 2013 00:23    Post subject:
dar is a patch, and the game finally downloaded. gonna test it tomight/tommorow-ish.

Don't expect it to dethrone ISS pro evo 1, but I hope its decent.


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fawe4




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Sep 2013 01:15    Post subject:
Jace1709 wrote:
What the fuck have they done to this game? For some reason they've decided to go backwards in gameplay, there is virtually no control over dead ball situations, its either left, right, centre, up or down, thats it, there used to be free movement.

Through balls are apparantly useless, unless the target player is COMPLETELY free, a defender will always intercept. My strong players are always out muscled, my fast players are always out paced, and it feels like my whole team is moving on thick mud.

Not to mention (even though i am indeed mentioning it) they still have at least hints of the classic PES annoyance, you can be winning 8-0 on one of the easier settings, and suddenly the opposition starts playing like Barcelona on thier good days, keeping the ball away from you at all times, and your only option is to foul them.

Now maybe i'm missing something in the options to fix all this, and i hope i am, but if THIS is the way Konami taking the series, forget it.


Just small thing to add to what was already said. Left trigger + through ball. That'll give you elevated through ball. Deadly maybe even too powerful weapon.
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Sep 2013 02:48    Post subject:
wtf is reloaded doing... patch requires iso to be mounted.. and i already deleted it


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ixigia
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Sep 2013 03:05    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
wtf is reloaded doing... patch requires iso to be mounted.. and i already deleted it

There's always the Daemon Tools Pro + Mini Image trick to the rescue. Razz I could PM you the image if you want.

edit: actually I don't know if this works with the RLD patch, it surely does if you're using the Konami official one

kazemaky wrote:

GK AI is a fucking joke. I lost a game 4-0 and all goals were some weird ass gk movements.

Yep, this is the only problem that I have with the game (which I'm still thoroughly enjoying for many reasons, including depth and variety). Sometimes they just stand there without even trying.

Like this (taken before while I was playing the CL):

Hope this gets fixed/improved with the patches.



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Janz




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Sep 2013 03:12    Post subject:
dont panic bro, the patch only updates the exe. so copying crack should be enough,already beeing said often in this thread

and ixi not only dt pro Wink mini image works fine with dt lite too, had that miniimage mounted while patching and of course playing
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Drowning_witch




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Location: Strawberry fields
PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Sep 2013 03:16    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Sometimes they just stand there without even trying.

Like this (taken before while I was playing the CL):

Hope this gets fixed/improved with the patches.


well they are realisticaly portraying juve playing. i bet if you zoom in on the ref you see dollars in his pocket too. Laughing

will attempt locating min image so i can patch this baby.
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Sep 2013 03:21    Post subject:
All lies! The club is completely broke at the moment. They couldn't even afford a cheap wingback Crying or Very sad Laughing
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Drowning_witch




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Sep 2013 03:43    Post subject:
damn i guess i need to install deamon tools, doesn't work with alcohol. I haven't used daemon tools in ages since mini images are ultra rare now.


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Nui
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Sep 2013 15:12    Post subject:
Btw, you dont need daemon tools pro. If you add an SCSI drive, it should work as well. Does for me.
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demde




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Sep 2013 15:32    Post subject:
Sometimes i score really silly goals when i fail to cross properly and i end up getting powerless shot , but i score cuz GK fails to catch easiest save ever Laughing And in next 2 attacks he saves super shots...
I have to practise my defence cuz most of the goals i get its from through balls when the player i control stops at the middle of the run and AI gets 1vs1 with the keeper.
Guess too much FIFA for me these years Laughing

I was never good at FIFA or PES , but sometimes i manage to score good goals Surprised
Not bad for my level IMO



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kazemaky




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Location: Estonia
PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2013 00:27    Post subject:
ffs how do i get my players to make runs. The lb+rs system is a piece of shit. Takes too much time and usually the right moment passes before i manage to use it. Dont always get the right player either and Id like more players to make a run not just one. It just puts one player on rails and i cant used it again till he has made his run. really frustrating to attack and I havent scored basically at all cause of this :/

Also, looking at command list are there really only so few dribble skills available in this game? and u need some special skills to do a roulette :S Even I can do it in real life.


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2013 01:33    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
and u need some special skills to do a roulette :S Even I can do it in real life.


So you want to do a "roulette" with just any player against any top team/defender? like it happens in real life? Laughing

By now I thought you would had already bought FIFA and be playing it, doing all sorts of arcadey tricks Smile
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Doh!




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PostPosted: Sat, 28th Sep 2013 01:44    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
wtf is reloaded doing... patch requires iso to be mounted.. and i already deleted it

There's always the Daemon Tools Pro + Mini Image trick to the rescue. Razz I could PM you the image if you want.

edit: actually I don't know if this works with the RLD patch, it surely does if you're using the Konami official one

kazemaky wrote:

GK AI is a fucking joke. I lost a game 4-0 and all goals were some weird ass gk movements.

Yep, this is the only problem that I have with the game (which I'm still thoroughly enjoying for many reasons, including depth and variety). Sometimes they just stand there without even trying.

Like this (taken before while I was playing the CL):

Hope this gets fixed/improved with the patches.


Haha thats Johan Wiland!

This is from a month ago:


PES is right on the money

Edit: Way the fuck dont the timecode work...Its at 1m11s (normally a great keeper tho)
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