[PS3] Beyond:Two Souls what happen after death?
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Oct 2013 23:51    Post subject:
I think the problem is people are trying to rate Fahrenheit in 2013. Still in 2013 it wouldn't be a 5/10.

I think that all 3 games are great period.

All 3 games have been developped in a different timeframe, I think that BEYOND is better than Heavy Rain just because it obviously has better technology and David Cage listened to a few complains.

Now Heavy Rain was great before BEYOND was here Smile

For me, all 3 games are a 9/10 but I'm a little fanboy maybe, I'm not sure. Still, that's my opinion, and I know I did enjoy every bit of all of them, much more than most of the other games on PS360PC.


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Oct 2013 23:58    Post subject:
maybe content was great in Fahrenheit and Heavy Rain but controls were just silly at a times

when i played Fahrenheit on PC, didn't even had a console at that time it was weird for me and i think i died thousand times back then
with HR it was better cause i already got used to the sticks, still felt a bit weird

does this game has same kind of controls where u don't really do anything but perform somekinda magical waves and shit, i might play it just for the story, but yeah i'd like to be prepared
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Aquma




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 00:20    Post subject:
I'm a huge sucker for serial killers and murder mysteries, so it may be partly because of that, but Heavy Rain sucked me in completely. Couldn't tear myself away for as long as it took me to finish it - I would just get back from work, fire up the console and play until I got too sleepy (and, by extension, sloppy Razz) to go on.

Fahrenheit actually somehow slipped by me at launch. I meant to try it, but so far I didn't. And now it seems I won't have to Razz But I suppose that's what I get for waiting so long and then reading carelessly through Quantic Dream games threads Wink

As for Beyond - no more fence time for me. The narrative still gets on my nerves slightly, but less so, and other than that the game's fantastic. Also, I don't think it's gonna get bad reviews from mainstream sites - it's way to intense and spectacular for that. Then again, I guess you never know.
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 00:52    Post subject:
Oh it will most likely get shitty reviews, after all, it doesn't have fish physics Sad

To mortibus : it's like Heavy Rain, same gameplay except fighting scenes aren't QTE, you just have a slowdown and push your stick into the good direction Jodie is heading toward.

There is less QTE than Heavy Rain though IMO because of the new fighting system.
But yeah, you ll probably hate it Very Happy
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Ashok0




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 01:08    Post subject:
Okay, let me rephrase.

Imho, first half of Fahrenheit: 10/10
Second half of Fahrenheit 5/10

Beyond: Two Souls had a ridiculously better ending. If I were to give Fahrenheit a good score, I'd have to give Beyond: Two Souls a 20/10 lol. Anyways I don't hate the game, but imo QF has improved drastically as a developer with each game they make.
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 01:29    Post subject:
Beyond Two Souls ending (s? Very Happy) is the best of all 3 games. Yeah there was a big reveal in Heavy Rain, but that was all (not that there isn't any reveal in this one either Wink).

Here the ending is quite long for a QD game, this was very welcomed.


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 01:38    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
Oh it will most likely get shitty reviews, after all, it doesn't have fish physics Sad

To mortibus : it's like Heavy Rain, same gameplay except fighting scenes aren't QTE, you just have a slowdown and push your stick into the good direction Jodie is heading toward.

There is less QTE than Heavy Rain though IMO because of the new fighting system.
But yeah, you ll probably hate it Very Happy


guess i ain't missing out then, oh well i already played all good ps3 exclusives

in all seriousness why can't this studio just make a decent story driven game and human controls or someone told them to be original and they went ballistic, this obsession with qte is crazy, i think the only game series that doesn't have it is gta, i mean even fps have this, cod, battlefield, they feel the necessity to implement something that looks like a cutscene then again u missing out cause u too concentrated on flashing buttons appear in a different parts of the screen, kind of destroys the purpose of cinematic gameplay, then again i must be getting old
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 01:46    Post subject:
The QTE in Beyond aren't destroying the game at all, they aren't intrusive and like Heavy Rain they show up on screen usually in places that don't disturb you.

Also again, QTE are invisible in fighting scenes, means you are NOT distracted.

And no, you didn't play all good PS3 exclusives because this one is still a good game. You are missing a great story, and even if you hate the controls, you should still try it. You can still move your character and the camera with both sticks you know Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 06:52    Post subject:
The Finnish review had a great review blurb in that he's still waiting to find an actual GAME in BEYOND. Everything about BEYOND works except. . .I dunno. . .giving me an actual gaming experience. I can't believe people shitted on Bayonneta for the Press One Button video, and are somehow falling all over themselves with how great a GAME Beyond is. It's not a game. It's a highly interactive movie.

Perhaps if I had played Heavy Rain and knew what to expect. . .but man. I'll probably finish this at some point, because the story/acting/graphics were actually pretty damn impressive, but game of the year contender forcing me to not put it down. No way. That title still belongs to another PS3 exclusive.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 07:43    Post subject:
WHEATTHlNS wrote:
The Finnish review had a great review blurb in that he's still waiting to find an actual GAME in BEYOND. Everything about BEYOND works except. . .I dunno. . .giving me an actual gaming experience. I can't believe people shitted on Bayonneta for the Press One Button video, and are somehow falling all over themselves with how great a GAME Beyond is. It's not a game. It's a highly interactive movie. .



Whomever reviewed that needs to be fucking shot.

What the hell did they expect from QD ? Cool of doooooooooty 17 ?


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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

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Aquma




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 10:06    Post subject:
It's the same kind of criticism HR got. And I guess it's understandable, these games are certainly not for everyone. Shouldn't be treated as a problem in a review, however. Unless they also plan to downscore the new CoD and BF for having too much shooting Razz
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Saner




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 10:12    Post subject:
Its not really a fair criticism.

these are not games that have no gameplay, they are movies with gameplay.

Fair criticism is with the story, game (ahem movie) breaking bugs, graphical stuff (IMO obviously) to say its not got as much gameplay as the latest <insert latest and greatest game here> is unfair because it was never made to be like that.

It is completely missing the point.


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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Aquma




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 10:39    Post subject:
I never said it was fair - I just said I get where it's coming from Smile

It's a budding genre, it's bound to cause reactions like this. In a few years we might (or might not) see them reviewed and scored against other titles of their kind, but right now they simply have to contend with everything else. And since they're so different, confusion and lack of understanding is to be expected.
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cyta77




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 12:19    Post subject:
wow was surprised redbox had this at 2 am today (the 8th), i looked up online for a free game rentral promo code and went a block away from my house to get it, didnt know they get games in that quick, took it home and have been glued to the tv for 3 hours straight, their is something about these type of games, i cant place it, but they're addicting. i think they are a little ahead of our time, i imagine in the future these games will be way more advanced in the ways you can multiple choice your way throughout the story, right now it just seems like little touches it affects (although im on my first playthrough if u dont count the demo)

i plan on going through it again before i turn it back into redbox, but every scene is just so.. interesting to me.
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Shawn_Hunter




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 14:32    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
 Spoiler:
 


Oh cheers! Saw all the 4 endings. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 16:58    Post subject:
Shawn_Hunter wrote:
cyclonefr wrote:
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Oh cheers! Saw all the 4 endings. Very Happy


Multiple endings?

This guy says not ...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/673021-beyond-two-souls/67434744


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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 17:03    Post subject:
there are 5 endings total, that conclude the story in different ways.
the very last bit of each ending (which is maybe 15 years later) is the same with small variations and more of a hint to a possible sequel.
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arN3x




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 17:06    Post subject:
6/10 from IGN and Eurogamer, did not expect this to happen..
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 17:09    Post subject:
There are 23 endings...

headshot wrote:
Shawn_Hunter wrote:
cyclonefr wrote:
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Oh cheers! Saw all the 4 endings. Very Happy


Multiple endings?

This guy says not ...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/673021-beyond-two-souls/67434744
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 17:11    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
There are 23 endings...

headshot wrote:
Shawn_Hunter wrote:


Oh cheers! Saw all the 4 endings. Very Happy


Multiple endings?

This guy says not ...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/673021-beyond-two-souls/67434744


23 endings? Srsly?


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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 17:14    Post subject:
Yes, seriously.


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Ishkur123




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 18:44    Post subject:
errm, these low scores are totally weird and i cant understand them.
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 18:46    Post subject:
Gamespot gives 9/10 , probably the only reason why you can still trust on them
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Kaan_




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 19:00    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
Gamespot gives 9/10 , probably the only reason why you can still trust on them


Yeah for well developed characters, which is the biggest problem with the game, imo. Oh and they gave TLoU 8. Rolling Eyes
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NFOAC




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 19:33    Post subject:
I agree for last of us it seemed they rushed into there review
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 19:56    Post subject:
Eh, beyond is a good game no doubt, but when it comes to characters and especially the writing, tlou is far superior
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 20:01    Post subject:
NFOAC wrote:
Gamespot gives 9/10 , probably the only reason why you can still trust on them


No way this game deserves an 9/10.

Quote:
Well-developed characters with evolving personalities Grounded story that examines human failings Controls help draw you in to Jodie's plight Choices let you develop Jodie and Aiden as you wish.


All those are basically lies. Apart from Jodie all the rest are totally 2D characters, some even total stereotypes. Story is mediocre and so filled with clichés that its not even funny. Controls are subjective.

Mold them as you wish? Kiss someone or don't. Wow. Amazing.

Oh yeah and the 22 endings... What is the difference? The way she says something probably. Or mentions something. No way its 22 unique endings.
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 20:25    Post subject: Re: [PS3] Beyond:Two Souls what happen after death?
Well thankfully this game is getting the reviews it deserves. You guys do know this game can be played on a 15 year old DVD player? Heck if someone recorded all the cut scenes in the game, it could easily be made playable into an interactive DVD movie like Dragon's Lair.
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 20:28    Post subject:
No it couldn't. Did you even play the game ? You can actually move your character in 3D with the left analog stick and interact with the environment. No way you can do that with prerecorded videos.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Oct 2013 21:39    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
No it couldn't. Did you even play the game ? You can actually move your character in 3D with the left analog stick and interact with the environment. No way you can do that with prerecorded videos.


The non essential interactions can be cut out but what I meant is the movements that are essential to the story can be left in the game. Uncharted was converted into a movie and that has more gameplay then this.



For Beyond Two Souls the interactive parts of the movie can be made in a similar way to Dragon's lair.
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