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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Oct 2013 18:06    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
tolanri wrote:
Uhm, why you you require jump when for example Splinter cell blacklist didn't have it either, and many people here liked blacklist afterall. I mean it would be nice to have jumping in game, but not really needed in a stealth game...
Can you name a recent FPS that doesn't feature jumping?

Also, a thief probably has to move around much more than some gay-ass 'murican techno-spy, no? Makes sense to me, at least Poker Face


AvP. I facepalmed so hard when I figured out you can't fucking jump in that game Facepalm


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Oct 2013 18:07    Post subject:
Ok, my wish has been granted. Laughing

Put you also proved my point, so So Much Win


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Oct 2013 18:17    Post subject:
Just watched recent trailer...WHO THE FUCK sneaks like that???? Why must he have his retarded hands out like that
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Oct 2013 18:27    Post subject:
Trailer looks good, I'd certainly play it, but I really don't like the new voice nor do I like the "focus, lol!" and "swoop, lol!" gameplay stuff. It's just erghhhh.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Oct 2013 18:29    Post subject:
these gfx are not nearly good enough for a next gen title to accept a framerate of only 30 fps.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Oct 2013 19:00    Post subject:
Gameplay looks okay, not great though. Everything about it feels hollow though, especially the changes to the city and taking out the factions and such. I'll play it, but it sure doesn't feel like the old games Sad (Alas, expecting too much from Eidos after DXHR).
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Oct 2013 21:28    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Trailer looks good, I'd certainly play it, but I really don't like the new voice nor do I like the "focus, lol!" and "swoop, lol!" gameplay stuff. It's just erghhhh.


I think it's going to be just like with Deus Ex or Blacklist...that stuff can be turned off and the game will play great without it and most people will love it.

Except the voice. I don't like it either and normally that stuff doesn't bother me. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Oct 2013 21:29    Post subject:
Can you turn off "swoop" and actually have control over your character again? That's a pretty huge thing, if you ask me.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Oct 2013 22:41    Post subject:
All I can see in that trailer are scripted scenes and cinematic aberrations Sad. Add to these all the visceral hollywoodian "escape scenes" a-la Absolution and we're ready for some truly Nextgen standards.
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 00:16    Post subject:
its like rebooting a rembrant with neon paint, it should be considered a crime to slaughter an IP like this
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 00:24    Post subject:
MEGAtexture wrote:
its like rebooting a rembrant with neon paint, it should be considered a crime to slaughter an IP like this



Which is pretty much what everyone said about DXHR until "the leak" or about Blacklist until it came out.
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 00:32    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
MEGAtexture wrote:
its like rebooting a rembrant with neon paint, it should be considered a crime to slaughter an IP like this


Which is pretty much what everyone said about DXHR until "the leak" or about Blacklist until it came out.


That's twice you've mentioned those now and sorry, but two successful reboots out of countless failures does not mean people should stop being pessimistic about "moar reboots" - especially when everything seen/said about ThiAf so far has been less-than-complimentary. I'm still waiting for an answer to my "can you disable swoop and regain full control over your character's actions" question Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 00:34    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 18:54    Post subject:
Good preview thanks, nice to see more gameplay footage and at least we know the loot/interactive frob can be disabled so it won't be "in your face" - I'm still not keen on the control system though. "Hold LT to win" sounds... hmm.
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 18:56    Post subject:
Looks good Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 21:33    Post subject:
so its a sequel not a reboot


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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 21:37    Post subject:
It is a remastered version of a reboot of a sequel with new artistic vision.
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 21:38    Post subject:
That ^^ Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 22:14    Post subject:
never played the old games but i heard of them, is the story somehow connected and complicated or just simply the guy is a thief and you have to steal x?
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Oct 2013 22:17    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
never played the old games but i heard of them, is the story somehow connected and complicated or just simply the guy is a thief and you have to steal x?


The old ones are connected, sequel and serialised, but as far as I know ThiAf is "new" - they're rebooting and starting from fresh.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 05:44    Post subject:
Whoever decided to implement that 'Focus' mode, please have my



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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 07:42    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
tolanri wrote:
Uhm, why you you require jump when for example Splinter cell blacklist didn't have it either, and many people here liked blacklist afterall. I mean it would be nice to have jumping in game, but not really needed in a stealth game...
Can you name a recent FPS that doesn't feature jumping?

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FPS


Thief is an FPS now? Otherwise I don't understand point of unrelated analogy.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 07:46    Post subject:
You also seem to miss out on the ability of reading follow up posts Poker Face


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 07:51    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
"Hold LT to win" sounds... hmm.

EA is going to be so pissed that Eidos/Square not only stole their awesome button but also made it even more awesomer than theirs.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 08:13    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
You also seem to miss out on the ability of reading follow up posts :poker:

That does not rule out the fact you arr talking about FPS games in context of Thief (games).



I just find it amusing.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 09:45    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
StEFaN7 wrote:
never played the old games but i heard of them, is the story somehow connected and complicated or just simply the guy is a thief and you have to steal x?


The old ones are connected, sequel and serialised, but as far as I know ThiAf is "new" - they're rebooting and starting from fresh.



then why in every trailer they says the story is like a continuation from the previously titles ?
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 09:51    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Whoever decided to implement that 'Focus' mode, please have my



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Slow motion? Check.
Enemy highlighting? Check.
One awesome button to rule them all? Check.

The Thief series has officially stepped into the next generation of gaming.
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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 11:41    Post subject:
No penalties for killing in Thief, higher difficulties will not generate new mission goals, killing people in Dishonored with guns and powers felt "much more satisfying" [than stealth]"




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I wanted to bring up how you're encouraged not to kill anybody in Thief. In Deus Ex (and more recently Deus Ex: Human Revolution), if you killed somebody, it actually meant something--I mean, you could go around and gun everybody down, but nowadays, gamers seem to be getting used to the idea of worlds with consequences. Was that part of the process, that push to make you a part of the game's world?

SG: Well, we've talked about this extensively--we want gamers to respect Garrett. I mean, when this game comes out, you get it, you download it, and it's yours. But at the beginning, Garrett talks about how, as a master thief, you don't want to leave a lot of evidence. You don't want to leave a ton of blood on the floor and a bunch of dead bodies.

But at the same time, I don't want to tell you "hey, you're not supposed to play like that. I don't want you to play like that." It's still your game--if you want to push your moral envelope and start killing people left and right, that's fine. With Garrett, it's not about morals. When he says "stealing a life" is huge, it's not because there's going to be children crying afterward, it's because your life is the single most precious thing you have


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SG: There are difficulty levels, but it's a fairly standard thing--less hit points, but you can challenge yourself within the game's space anyways, create your own difficulties.


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What are your favorite stealth games?

SR: There was a game that recently came out, and it tried to use a lot of stealth elements: The Last of Us. But personally, for me, it was much easier to play aggressively. Dishonored, too--you had lots of tools and weapons and powers, and while you were encouraged to play stealthy, it felt much more satisfying to just fight with everyone and use your powers.


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http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2013/10/09-1/feature-interview-with-thief-senior-producer-and-narrative-director


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PostPosted: Fri, 11th Oct 2013 11:43    Post subject:
Oh god Laughing
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