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 Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 14:04 Post subject: CPU Upgrade to FX... but FX is dead? :( |
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I have an AM3 board which sadly does not support AM3+ CPUs so I'm pretty much bound to Phenom X4 or X6 if I am going to upgrade but they seem to be horrible on the power/heat/noise consumption site and my stock cooled athlon X4 is already terribly loud.
So I was looking at the FX processors and the FX 8320 seems to have good bang for the buck but then I saw that earlier this year AMD decided to drop out of the FX segment and will concentrate on their A-X APUs 
I guess this has already been discussed but I couldn't find the thread... so I guess AMD is now no option anymore CPU wise and I'll have to switch to Intel sooner or later? Shit sucks!! The i processor will now NEVER go down in price 
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 14:15 Post subject: |
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They are the last FX processors altogether
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 14:21 Post subject: |
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At this point it's still a rumour, AMD have not said anything about whether they're continuing with normal desktop CPUs or not.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 14:22 Post subject: |
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I've heard rumours to the same effect, the 9590 will be the last one, but I've not seen any confirmation and I doubt AMD will leave the high-end desktop market completely - their APUs simply aren't hardcore gamer-friendly yet. The FX are pretty good and especially for the price but the APUs right now simply aren't competitive enough.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 14:30 Post subject: |
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Seeing that a top notch iI7 4770K has a thermal design power of 84Watt and the FX 9590 at 220.... I have lost my faith in AMD regarding high end CPUs
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Werelds
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 14:32 Post subject: |
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No, they're not competitive with their APUs in the high-end (gaming) market. But getting an 83x0 at this point won't hurt either. Whatever you get on Intel now doesn't matter either, the next generation is not going to be compatible with current motherboards anyway.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 14:33 Post subject: |
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Not to mention the i7-4770k has a pretty decent iGPU (almost that of the 7660D in the A10 APU) and the FX9590 doesn't have an iGPU. It is bizarre to see. Do octocores really draw that much more power?
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 14:33 Post subject: |
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So whatever I go for now, I'll lose? Great 
@Sabin: I guess AMDs architecture just isn't as good as Intels and they try to beat them with insane speeds (5GHz!!!)
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 14:46 Post subject: |
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I thought the A10 were horrible performance wise?
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 14:55 Post subject: |
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About three-quarters as good as the 2500/2600k, so not great, but not horrendous. Especially not for the price and the GPU combination -- no real competition but good for budget builders I guess.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 16:41 Post subject: |
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Just swich to Intel. My next upgrade I'm definitely getting some i5 or i7 CPU, amd is just not worth it. You may save some money, but in the long run that's not good enough...
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I'm waiting for the returned CPU prodigies to come up with something good around 2015 or so.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Nov 2013 18:54 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | Not to mention the i7-4770k has a pretty decent iGPU (almost that of the 7660D in the A10 APU) and the FX9590 doesn't have an iGPU. It is bizarre to see. Do octocores really draw that much more power? |
My 8350 was drawing over 300 watts when I was running it at 5.2Ghz |
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Nov 2013 00:26 Post subject: Re: CPU Upgrade to FX... but FX is dead? :( |
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| PumpAction wrote: | I have an AM3 board which sadly does not support AM3+ CPUs so I'm pretty much bound to Phenom X4 or X6 if I am going to upgrade but they seem to be horrible on the power/heat/noise consumption site and my stock cooled athlon X4 is already terribly loud.
So I was looking at the FX processors and the FX 8320 seems to have good bang for the buck but then I saw that earlier this year AMD decided to drop out of the FX segment and will concentrate on their A-X APUs
I guess this has already been discussed but I couldn't find the thread... so I guess AMD is now no option anymore CPU wise and I'll have to switch to Intel sooner or later? Shit sucks!! The i processor will now NEVER go down in price |
Just get an 8350 and be done with it. Or the other model below it that's a piledriver. People push and gloat about all these numbers but in reality, all these bamf ass CPU's out these days really don't justify the price we pay for them. If all you're doing is gaming, they don't make that big of a deal.
If you're running more than one card, then ya, Intel all the way, AMD can't do shit with more than one card. Otherwise you won't notice a difference either way.
There was a site, I think it was HardcOP that did a no bullshit benchmark keeping everything as close to each other as possible and the difference between an 8350 and 3570 (it's competitor) was maybe a couple FPS. The couple games where Intel stomped it, both were well over 100FPS anyways and you aren't going to notice either one.
At the rate games are going, as long as the CPU isn't slowing your GPU down, GPU's are what you need to worry about. My old 965 was able to handle the 7950 with games on max settings just fine until I started overclocking it.
Updating for anything newer than the AM3 socket, couldn't tell you, AMD keeps dropping the fucking ball so I don't even follow CPU's anymore since they're irrelevant at this point for gaming.
Plus side for Intel is their boards came way down in price (at least here in the states) so it's not a matter of going AMD to save money anymore. Downside is, they're still cunts and release a new socket for every fucking new CPU
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Still, not competitive for the desktop market - so it will be interesting to see if AMD can combine the CPU power of the A10 with the GPU power of their console equivalents, the whole 7790/7860 thing. That would be a very impressive APU to me.
