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Grale
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:39    Post subject:
How do you pay for the games, psn cards? and where did you buy them?


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:39    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.


just did

in fact it's even better http://snipurl.com/287l4le

runs bf4 and ac4 on max@1080p Wink

i could go cheaper with psu and case, but that would be hating myself Laughing
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:45    Post subject:
that amd and 7850 would do far from 60.
even my 2500k clocked to 4,5 and overclocked 7850 (above 7950 oc) cant do constant 60 maxed

but that is a pretty good (above average) pc. surely for more uses than ps4 anyway. and oculus rift shoult work on it !


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:46    Post subject:
yeah because ps4 can run bf4@1080p max settings with 60 fps Laughing

i think u missed

rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 22:04    Post subject:
PSN cards yes. I buy them directly on amazon.com, just input a fake US home address.

PSN codes are instantly delivered to email on amazon.

Grale wrote:
How do you pay for the games, psn cards? and where did you buy them?
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Grale
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 22:09    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
PSN cards yes. I buy them directly on amazon.com, just input a fake US home address.

PSN codes are instantly delivered to email on amazon.

Grale wrote:
How do you pay for the games, psn cards? and where did you buy them?


Great thanks cyclone. I've created an account, I'll try it with bf4 when my ps4 arrives.
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 23:56    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.


just did

in fact it's even better http://snipurl.com/287l4le

runs bf4 and ac4 on max@1080p Wink

i could go cheaper with psu and case, but that would be hating myself Laughing

are you fucking deluded? that garbage wouldn't run BF4 on max 60fps, let alone AC4, not even close Laughing
your anti console trolling here is the most retarded i ever saw. at least others here are somewhat educated about this topic. you just spout random nonsense all day every day
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:02    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.


just did

in fact it's even better http://snipurl.com/287l4le

runs bf4 and ac4 on max@1080p Wink

i could go cheaper with psu and case, but that would be hating myself Laughing

are you fucking deluded? that garbage wouldn't run BF4 on max 60fps, let alone AC4, not even close Laughing
your anti console trolling here is the most retarded i ever saw. at least others here are somewhat educated about this topic. you just spout random nonsense all day every day


take a deep breathe and read your own post, again and again

rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.


besides i own a freaking 360, how am i anti-console, if there is such a thing

and just to shut u up

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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:11    Post subject:
to shut me up post more xbox360 screenshots claiming they are ps4 Laughing
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:16    Post subject:
i will certainly do that Wink
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:28    Post subject:
wat is going on


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ITRUK




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:32    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
wat is going on


They're trying to get their post count up Razz
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:34    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
yeah because ps4 can run bf4@1080p max settings with 60 fps Laughing

i think u missed

rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.


go ahead and give me a full list of components necessary to run bf4 at atleast high setting and 60 fps, for 400 euro max.
shouldnt be a problem for you.

protip: you cant.
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Lukxxx




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:56    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
yeah because ps4 can run bf4@1080p max settings with 60 fps Laughing

i think u missed

rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.


go ahead and give me a full list of components necessary to run bf4 at atleast high setting and 60 fps, for 400 euro max.
shouldnt be a problem for you.

protip: you cant.


But at least you have multiplayer without 50euro/year... so for 5 years of gaming that can give you 650 euro PC
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lytomacheda




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 01:25    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
Code:
COMPLEX is proud to present the very first game data sector dump of an
XBOX ONE game - even before the official console launch date :wink:

This release contains a 42gb .iso without security sectors. These can
be patched in later on before burning the iso to disc.

The disc itself has a new format (XGD4 / XBOX Game Data 4) and contains
a few folders (licenses, msxc and metadata) with some .png and catalog
files plus one large package1.xvc file of 41,285,020 kb length.



If xbone is already(its not) hacked and ps4 won't be then i know what I will get Laughing


interesting indeed, but its not very practical to burn 40gb games, there must be a workaround...
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lytomacheda




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 01:25    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
who gives a shit about drive. I hope next gen piracy is going to be all hdd based
edit: and say waht You want but Ryse looks fantastic (might be boring) but gfx, physics, animations are wowfactor for me


yes but then it will be easier to ban on xbox live
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lytomacheda




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 01:27    Post subject:
highstuff wrote:
http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141357

http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141335&p=969957#post969957

They are working hard already on this.


CANT WAIT Very Happy hope it will be hacked before release in europe. I am so getting it Very Happy
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lytomacheda




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 01:29    Post subject:
Shawn_Hunter wrote:
highstuff wrote:
http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141357

http://team-xecuter.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141335&p=969957#post969957

They are working hard already on this.


Blu-Ray Disc burning? Fuck NO!

I'd rather wait for some hack which would make the Digital downloads or Disc rip work. More along the lines of a JTAG.


dude..I can still understand blu-ray disc burning for the people who still wants xbox live..like me. I would not sacrifice xbox live for jtag
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 01:31    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
yeah because ps4 can run bf4@1080p max settings with 60 fps Laughing

i think u missed

rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.


go ahead and give me a full list of components necessary to run bf4 at atleast high setting and 60 fps, for 400 euro max.
shouldnt be a problem for you.

protip: you cant.
for 400 you can buy a I5/I7 + motherboard for it + 4 gigs 1330mhz
add another 300 and you can add GFGTX660/760 + 1TB drive
add another 200 and you can buy Tagan 580W + a good case for your PC + mouse + keyboard+speakers
add another 100 and you can buy a monitor or just plug that PC into a LCDTV or LEDTV

so for 1000 euro you can have monster PC that can run games in 4K on Ultra in 120FPS
for 400 you get a next gen console that can barely can output 1080p 30fps


and the LULZ is PC costs return when you harr things from movies to games
consoles dont ... add PSN+/XBOX GOLD to play INTERNET games , add games prices for console that are magical already 4x more expensive the the same version on PC Laughing




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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 01:32    Post subject:
Yeah sure a GF 660 will run BF4 in 4K on Ultra in 120fps on PC.

Are You Serious


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 01:38    Post subject:
Personally, from the videos I've seen, I want to play Ryse - it looks like it could be a lot of fun, but it also looks like a QTE-ridden mess Sad If it came to PC I'd play it but it's certainly not a system-seller and I wouldn't buy it either.

@cyclonefr @Hfric

That is hilarious Laughing I've got a pair of 570s, together superior to a single 660/660ti/670, and nope.. incapable of sustaining 60 on Ultra/1080. So 4k? Laughing Ultra? Laughing 120fps? Laughing What on Earth are you smoking, Spidey? You want to play BF4 at Ultra/1440 you're going to need a 7990/GTX690... if you want to play it at Ultra/2160 you're going to need a pair of them. If you're aiming for 120fps you're going to need four of them grinhurt A 7990 (pair of 7970s) doesn't even break 100fps at 1080, let alone 1440 or above No single card on the market (including 780ti, including 290x) even breaks 30fps on average at 4K resolution in BF4.

Honestly, 4K is untenable right now. The ludicrous levels of hardware required for it just make it pretty much unattainable for the most part. That's high-end quadfire/SLi territory.
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 01:55    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
yeah because ps4 can run bf4@1080p max settings with 60 fps Laughing

i think u missed

rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.


go ahead and give me a full list of components necessary to run bf4 at atleast high setting and 60 fps, for 400 euro max.
shouldnt be a problem for you.

protip: you cant.


i just did, look up, or 30 fps messing with your eyesight
protip: maybe u should sit about couple meters from the screen, that should fix it Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 03:07    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 03:19    Post subject:
headshot wrote:

http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-disc-drive-issues-reported-by-small-number-of-1469646700
http://kotaku.com/microsoft-has-no-clear-solution-for-xbox-one-disc-drive-1469918988


those are not issues, just hacked drive in process Very Happy

so much shit storm with this new consoles, do they even pass qa Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 08:34    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
The_Zeel wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
yeah because ps4 can run bf4@1080p max settings with 60 fps Laughing

i think u missed

rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.


go ahead and give me a full list of components necessary to run bf4 at atleast high setting and 60 fps, for 400 euro max.
shouldnt be a problem for you.

protip: you cant.


i just did, look up, or 30 fps messing with your eyesight
protip: maybe u should sit about couple meters from the screen, that should fix it Laughing



No you didn't

That list you put together isn't even a complete system no hdd/ssd or optical drive so both those will add another 70+ euro.

For 500-600 it can be done but not 400
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 09:55    Post subject:
But not 1080p 60fps. No way


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 09:55    Post subject:
Not everyone gets their hardware with reduced prices like Sony or any other big company buying masses of things. Maybe something you guys should keep in mind.

A PS4 rig with the same prices everyone else would pay for if built with parts from general retailers would result in similar or at least 20-40 bucks difference.

If Sony were to do this with a PC they could easily outperform the PS4 and even offer a cheaper price, hence the discounts they get.

In short to achieve the same performance:

PC built by private person: 500$
PS4 built by a company: 400$ (this already counts in the massive discount they get, so they can offer it for this price and still make profit)

See you guys in 4 years when the PS4 has been outdated for 2 years.
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 10:21    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
rgb#000 wrote:
you can't build PC for 400 euros that will run games on same graphical level as ps4.


just did

in fact it's even better http://snipurl.com/287l4le

runs bf4 and ac4 on max@1080p Wink

i could go cheaper with psu and case, but that would be hating myself Laughing


No way that can run BF4 ad 1080p+ at solid framerate.
But even assuming it can, BF4 is just a launch title: in 2-3 years, when developers have really started to learn how to queeze the new console's hardware and optimize properly that rig will barely run the new games where the consoles will stil play for another 4+ years.
And it's not speculation either: just look at the newest FPSes on 360/ps3 and tell me you can run them with those graphics on a top pc from 2005/2006. Protip: they probably wouldn't even start for lack of RAM and GPU power...
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 10:29    Post subject:
harry_theone wrote:
See you guys in 4 years when the PS4 has been outdated for 2 years.

what is that even supposed to mean? 360/PS3 are so very outdated, yet they still get incredible games like GTA5 at the end of life cycle.

so yeah, see ya in 4 years when PS4 players playing yet another amazing Uncharted and PC players are being bitter at yet another Total War with bad AI. Laughing
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KillerCrocker




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 10:38    Post subject:
talk about xbox 360 like rig build Laughing
It wouldnt run shit Laughing

This isnt how it works


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