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Werelds
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 16:11    Post subject:
You guys need to ignore anything remy posts, there's not going to be any facts or sensibility in there Smile
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 16:16    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
what is going on


Werelds wrote:
You guys need to ignore anything remy posts, there's not going to be any facts or sensibility in there Smile


LeTrolling as always Smile
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remyleblau
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 16:16    Post subject:
quote me on where i did post something that is not a fact in this thread u retard
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The_Leaf




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 16:17    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Only real console left is the Wii U. PS4/XBOne are just glorified low/mid-end PC's.

[...] I honestly don't get why one would buy a PS4/Xbox if you've got a decent PC already as it is. [...]


For the same reason it has always been: exclusives.
CPU Architectures, media formats, clock speeds, resolution, extra features... it's all bullshit. The games are what make or break a console.
I'm traditionally a PC gamer, but I got myself a 360 to play the games that just didn't exist on PC (or that came out years later, see: Alan Wake, Castlevania LoS, etc...). Pure and simple. A pc can have all the cpu cores and ram and resolutionzz and parallel gfx cards up the arse, but if the games you want to play are not available on the platform all that power is a useless waste of cash.
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 16:24    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Only real console left is the Wii U. PS4/XBOne are just glorified low/mid-end PC's.

[...] I honestly don't get why one would buy a PS4/Xbox if you've got a decent PC already as it is. [...]


For the same reason it has always been: exclusives.
CPU Architectures, media formats, clock speeds, resolution, extra features... it's all bullshit. The games are what make or break a console.
I'm traditionally a PC gamer, but I got myself a 360 to play the games that just didn't exist on PC (or that came out years later, see: Alan Wake, Castlevania LoS, etc...). Pure and simple. A pc can have all the cpu cores and ram and resolutionzz and parallel gfx cards up the arse, but if the games you want to play are not available on the platform all that power is a useless waste of cash.

completely agreed. many people buying consoles already have gaming rigs. it's always funny when someone tries to tell me PC gaming advantages. i know all of that because *gasp* I've been playing pc games my whole life AND i've been playing console games my whole life.
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 16:28    Post subject:
+10

The_Leaf wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Only real console left is the Wii U. PS4/XBOne are just glorified low/mid-end PC's.

[...] I honestly don't get why one would buy a PS4/Xbox if you've got a decent PC already as it is. [...]


For the same reason it has always been: exclusives.
CPU Architectures, media formats, clock speeds, resolution, extra features... it's all bullshit. The games are what make or break a console.
I'm traditionally a PC gamer, but I got myself a 360 to play the games that just didn't exist on PC (or that came out years later, see: Alan Wake, Castlevania LoS, etc...). Pure and simple. A pc can have all the cpu cores and ram and resolutionzz and parallel gfx cards up the arse, but if the games you want to play are not available on the platform all that power is a useless waste of cash.
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 16:50    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Only real console left is the Wii U. PS4/XBOne are just glorified low/mid-end PC's.

[...] I honestly don't get why one would buy a PS4/Xbox if you've got a decent PC already as it is. [...]


For the same reason it has always been: exclusives.
CPU Architectures, media formats, clock speeds, resolution, extra features... it's all bullshit. The games are what make or break a console.
I'm traditionally a PC gamer, but I got myself a 360 to play the games that just didn't exist on PC (or that came out years later, see: Alan Wake, Castlevania LoS, etc...). Pure and simple. A pc can have all the cpu cores and ram and resolutionzz and parallel gfx cards up the arse, but if the games you want to play are not available on the platform all that power is a useless waste of cash.


With these new consoles there aren't many exclusives worth giving a shit about. The only system that offers true exclusives (Meaning, the game will never come to PC or any other system) is the Wii U. So if you want that Zelda/DK/Mario experience you've got to own it.

Only game that looks slightly interesting to me that is an exclusive is Ryse. It ain't scoring to hot though. Rest of the games that are even scoring decent on Metacritic aren't even exclusives as it is.

Meanwhile, Super Mario 3D World is easily on it's way to becoming GOTY.

If you don't have the cash for a decent PC - Then yes, I'm not going to bash the consoles. If you've already got a decent PC though you'd be wasting your money on both the new Playstation and Xbox.
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Shawn_Hunter




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 16:53    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
For the same reason it has always been: exclusives.


Precisely! If they were all on PC, then why would anyone bother getting a console.
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 17:25    Post subject:
Ssshhh Shawn_Hunter, because PC gamers master race from the pc section will tell you because people like us buy consoles, then dev won't stop making console exclusives.

If nfohump stops buying consoles, then Sony will make The Last of Us on PC alright ? They secretly told Remy about it Laughing


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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 17:45    Post subject:
While I don't really approve of remy's subsequent replies, his initial post was simply stating the fact that streaming stuff on twitch was available on PCs for a long time and that having streams with morally questionable content is not something that suddenly became an issue with the consoles' arrival.

It was cyclone who somehow initiated the whole PC master race debate out of this Razz
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Grale
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 18:29    Post subject:
cyclonefr wrote:
Ssshhh Shawn_Hunter, because PC gamers master race from the pc section will tell you because people like us buy consoles, then dev won't stop making console exclusives.

If nfohump stops buying consoles, then Sony will make The Last of Us on PC alright ? They secretly told Remy about it Laughing


What the 'master race' is forgetting or perhaps doesn't even know, is that gaming started on the consoles. I've been playing games from the very first pong machine my dad brought back from the USA in the early 70's. I have an open mind to games and i have probably owned and enjoyed every console and home computer there has been, i currently have a high end pc also that i enjoy playing games on.

So with that in mind consoles are the master race. Very Happy

The true derps are the muppets who use this and believe it PC Master Race
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The_Leaf




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 18:53    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
The_Leaf wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Only real console left is the Wii U. PS4/XBOne are just glorified low/mid-end PC's.

[...] I honestly don't get why one would buy a PS4/Xbox if you've got a decent PC already as it is. [...]


For the same reason it has always been: exclusives.
CPU Architectures, media formats, clock speeds, resolution, extra features... it's all bullshit. The games are what make or break a console.
I'm traditionally a PC gamer, but I got myself a 360 to play the games that just didn't exist on PC (or that came out years later, see: Alan Wake, Castlevania LoS, etc...). Pure and simple. A pc can have all the cpu cores and ram and resolutionzz and parallel gfx cards up the arse, but if the games you want to play are not available on the platform all that power is a useless waste of cash.


With these new consoles there aren't many exclusives worth giving a shit about. The only system that offers true exclusives (Meaning, the game will never come to PC or any other system) is the Wii U. So if you want that Zelda/DK/Mario experience you've got to own it.

Only game that looks slightly interesting to me that is an exclusive is Ryse. It ain't scoring to hot though. Rest of the games that are even scoring decent on Metacritic aren't even exclusives as it is.

Meanwhile, Super Mario 3D World is easily on it's way to becoming GOTY.

If you don't have the cash for a decent PC - Then yes, I'm not going to bash the consoles. If you've already got a decent PC though you'd be wasting your money on both the new Playstation and Xbox.


That's why I haven't bought a ps4 or xbone yet. Since the architecture is similar there may be more pc ports this generation, so I'll wait a couple of years and see what the situation is like.

But saying "there are no decent exclusives" based on the 4-5 launch titles available at day one is just Laughing .
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rgb#000
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 19:12    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
The_Leaf wrote:
Mchart wrote:
Only real console left is the Wii U. PS4/XBOne are just glorified low/mid-end PC's.

[...] I honestly don't get why one would buy a PS4/Xbox if you've got a decent PC already as it is. [...]


For the same reason it has always been: exclusives.
CPU Architectures, media formats, clock speeds, resolution, extra features... it's all bullshit. The games are what make or break a console.
I'm traditionally a PC gamer, but I got myself a 360 to play the games that just didn't exist on PC (or that came out years later, see: Alan Wake, Castlevania LoS, etc...). Pure and simple. A pc can have all the cpu cores and ram and resolutionzz and parallel gfx cards up the arse, but if the games you want to play are not available on the platform all that power is a useless waste of cash.


With these new consoles there aren't many exclusives worth giving a shit about. The only system that offers true exclusives (Meaning, the game will never come to PC or any other system) is the Wii U. So if you want that Zelda/DK/Mario experience you've got to own it.

Only game that looks slightly interesting to me that is an exclusive is Ryse. It ain't scoring to hot though. Rest of the games that are even scoring decent on Metacritic aren't even exclusives as it is.

Meanwhile, Super Mario 3D World is easily on it's way to becoming GOTY.

If you don't have the cash for a decent PC - Then yes, I'm not going to bash the consoles. If you've already got a decent PC though you'd be wasting your money on both the new Playstation and Xbox.

That's right, you heard here first, folks. Uncharted, The Last of Us and God of War are coming to PC. Confirmed by none other than our own Mderp Laughing lol wut Scratch Head
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 19:18    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Only game that looks slightly interesting to me that is an exclusive is Ryse. It ain't scoring to hot though. Rest of the games that are even scoring decent on Metacritic aren't even exclusives as it is.

I guess you haven't actually seen any of it then Laughing

I'd buy an Xbox for just for Forza before I'd buy Ryse on whatever platform Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 19:28    Post subject:
Only one good Game for me Forza5

And fucking Fifa is totaly Buggy on Xboxone Sad
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remyleblau
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 19:32    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
While I don't really approve of remy's subsequent replies, his initial post was simply stating the fact that streaming stuff on twitch was available on PCs for a long time and that having streams with morally questionable content is not something that suddenly became an issue with the consoles' arrival.

It was cyclone who somehow initiated the whole PC master race debate out of this Razz


yea, i was responding to the The_Zeel about streaming but cyclone out of nothing went full retard mode, obviously Werelds and sabin joined him because they dont agreed with me in different threads, pathetic as usual Very Happy
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lytomacheda




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 19:33    Post subject:
Mcs[NBK] wrote:
Only one good Game for me Forza5

And fucking Fifa is totaly Buggy on Xboxone Sad


yeah lol what did u expect from EA
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p00chie




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 19:35    Post subject:
never buy a console until its hacked! br-burner will skyrocket in sales when this happens.
and don't buy xbone because 720p looks like shit no matter what. i stopped playing gta5 because its a shame that a game this good has to look like shit. waiting for pc release so the game gets what it deserves Smile
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cyclonefr




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 21:42    Post subject:
I wasn't referring to that post only but to all your posts. Pretty sure sabin and Werelds too, since they are used to your posts, and so am I.

Your main idea goes like that in every of your posts : console suck because they have a shitty hardware, and PC rocks because they are more powerful Laughing

Who cares about gaming or games after all ? As long as you have the biggest one Laughing
You buy PC for its games, so why the hell would you buy a console right ? Laughing

remyleblau wrote:
MinderMast wrote:
While I don't really approve of remy's subsequent replies, his initial post was simply stating the fact that streaming stuff on twitch was available on PCs for a long time and that having streams with morally questionable content is not something that suddenly became an issue with the consoles' arrival.

It was cyclone who somehow initiated the whole PC master race debate out of this Razz


yea, i was responding to the The_Zeel about streaming but cyclone out of nothing went full retard mode, obviously Werelds and sabin joined him because they dont agreed with me in different threads, pathetic as usual Very Happy
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remyleblau
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 22:05    Post subject:
I have no idea what you are talking about, i got the feeling that you have trouble with constructing understandable sentences in english, i`m just gonna leave you in your dillusional world. bye
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murgo




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 22:12    Post subject:
dillusional isn't even a word..


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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 22:18    Post subject:
I guess remyleblau files it under "understandable" english... Wink

Now go write "delusional" over and over bart simpsons style Wink
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remyleblau
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 22:27    Post subject:
wow, grammar nazi Very Happy
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 22:29    Post subject:
remyleblau wrote:
I have no idea what you are talking about, i got the feeling that you have trouble with constructing understandable sentences in english, i`m just gonna leave you in your dillusional world. bye

This is why we ignore whatever you have to say. You resort to insulting every time someone does not 100% agree with you.

And yes, calling someone out on "understandable sentences in english" is quite rich coming from you.
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remyleblau
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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 22:46    Post subject:
somehow MinderMast understood those simple sentences, but lets face it, you came here because you still cant get over that amd bullshit Smile thats just sad.
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 23:41    Post subject:
I understood your initial statement, and I do think cyclone is the one who derailed the thread and subject of the discussion.

But I also have to agree that you resort to insults rather easily when faced with any kind of confrontation. What's even funnier is that you always end up playing the victim card in the end and then bail on the entire argument thinking yourself a winner Very Happy

Edit: Also the fact that you keep taking the moral high ground on the "AMD bullshit" makes me think that you are either trolling (and crudely at that) or quite delusional yourself.
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 00:43    Post subject:
I couldnt find a Xbox One hacking thread but looks like xbox one is on the move.Multiple Hacking teams tweeting pics of the drives being manupulated and the TX Team put this on there news feed


From the label we can see it is clearly still a Lite-On drive, this time around of course it is BD-ROM and model number DG-6M1S and currently at firmware v3253 on h/w 070D and made in Oct. 2013.

But from the next picture we can clearly see that main IC is no longer a mediatek silicon, but a Microsoft stamped die with its own part number, along with a TI driver chip for laser with nice big cable:



But all is not lost, as we got this good news and another picture to share from TX:

"The X-Ray machine has been deployed. Now to put the acid gloves on."

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lytomacheda




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 01:13    Post subject:
yeah i've read that to, just wait and see what happens. hopefully they will get a hack up and running in no time Very Happy
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remyleblau
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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 02:16    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
I understood your initial statement, and I do think cyclone is the one who derailed the thread and subject of the discussion.

But I also have to agree that you resort to insults rather easily when faced with any kind of confrontation. What's even funnier is that you always end up playing the victim card in the end and then bail on the entire argument thinking yourself a winner Very Happy

Edit: Also the fact that you keep taking the moral high ground on the "AMD bullshit" makes me think that you are either trolling (and crudely at that) or quite delusional yourself.


its not really my problem when some fanboys/kiddies react that way. Zeel wrote about idiots using ps4 streaming, i wrote that idiots were already streaming on pc all sorts of crap for years. Point was that (streaming) its not really an issue, few of them will learn how the stream works the hard way (ie that wow guy with his girlfriend). And when some clown interprets those words as me pointing out that consoles are outdated technology/software wise, thats just beyond stupid. Obviously Werelds is my fan now, as he fallows me on every thread to write some crap, and sabin in his usual 30posts per day style just jumps on the bandwagon without a single thought, but whatever really.


more on topic -

that idiots which The_Zeel wrote about already made it to the kotaku Very Happy

http://kotaku.com/twitch-couples-strip-show-could-mean-bad-news-for-play-1470396644

also:


xbone chewbacca mode Laughing
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Sun, 24th Nov 2013 02:46    Post subject:
its the magic nfohump , talk to strangers and insult them , then they come back and insult you and follow you and play detective ... yup Laughing

i love to play here the gullible dumdum just to flame bait others Cool Face

like for 1k you can make a $K ehem 4K pc ready machine Aww Yeah

Werelds is a geeky prick , knows things but likes to play the aristocracy , just listen to him and ignore the rest

*gives Leo high five*


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