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Kein
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 00:06    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
question, so i have 30 fps with all low and 20 all high on a 3ghz c2d and gtx 275, 10 fps difference is too low.

do you guys think its because of the cpu or gpu ? if i oc to 4 ghz will i see some changes ?

You can try and tell us?
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 01:57    Post subject:
you are both cpu and gpu limited, c2d came out in 2006 Very Happy

cpu oc will only matter when your gpu isn't limiting it, so probably only low to conservative medium settings will show FPS improvement due to cpu OC.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 04:16    Post subject:
h0rnyfavn wrote:
Hmm.. Near the Mystery Island or whatever it is called I always get attacked by a legendary ship.

And it's OK but... every time it happens there is a fog blocking my vision.

This is really frustrating.. I get it, a mysterious island, a mysterious ship with, probably, undead crew :P , a fog like in most horror movies scenes, The Flying Dutchman vibes and all that but but but..
How am I supposed to use mortars? Coz I don't feel like coming too close to that beast :lolface:


I found a way to defeat this particular ship without pre-latest or latest upgrades. What you need is at least 2lvl RAM and maximum available upgrade for chase cannon. Basically, you do this - go behind in and, well, start to ram it gently (haha) into the back, just trying to slow it down while firing your chase canons. It take some concentration to keep it that way because basterd tries to turn the board against you and do killer-heavy so in the end i wouldn't call it a cheat or exploit since it takes the same amount of time and effort and besides, if you miss 2-3 mortar shots + one heavy or just 2 heavy - you are dead. Although, if you are skilled enough you can technically do the trick I managed to pull of quite often in second fight (replay): hit him and shoot with chain-shot to slow down then keep hitting and turning at the same time until you have clear heavy shit and then just spam with along with swivel. I managed to do 5 shots in a row once and even escaped his heavy in time and got back on rails behind him.

As for your original idea with mortar - even elite mortar with full ammo won't do more than 20% of his HP damage.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 05:50    Post subject:


This happened to me too but as soon as I saw the hole I just restarted. I wish I would have waited just a few seconds. The ending is the best part!
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 06:29    Post subject:
dataschmuck wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQ_ZozZIio&hd=1

This happened to me too but as soon as I saw the hole I just restarted. I wish I would have waited just a few seconds. The ending is the best part!


If I had seen something like that, I would have just thought it was something the developers put in on purpose to imply a problem or corruption of the Animus simulation.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 08:28    Post subject:
Kein wrote:

I found a way to defeat this particular ship without pre-latest or latest upgrades.

As for your original idea with mortar - even elite mortar with full ammo won't do more than 20% of his HP damage.



What a neat trick =)

PS I really liked elite precision damage of these two cannons at the back of a ship. When you first do massive damage with regular elite round cannon balls and then you keep pressed shift and these two cannons do a very good amount of damage. I even stopped using mortars against manowars after I got elite cannons and elite precision damage cannons.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 09:04    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
you are both cpu and gpu limited, c2d came out in 2006 Very Happy

cpu oc will only matter when your gpu isn't limiting it, so probably only low to conservative medium settings will show FPS improvement due to cpu OC.


but ac3 worked flawlessly on max and its the same damn engine


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 09:23    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
you are both cpu and gpu limited, c2d came out in 2006 Very Happy

cpu oc will only matter when your gpu isn't limiting it, so probably only low to conservative medium settings will show FPS improvement due to cpu OC.


but ac3 worked flawlessly on max and its the same damn engine

i do not believe you, or maybe flawlessly means something different for you. i had c2d 3.2Ghz when AC2 was out and it ran pretty bad, but my friends who had Q6600 had like 100 fps.

you really need to upgrade your CPU.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 09:38    Post subject:
flawlessly means for me what flawlessly means for everybody . i had a constant 40+ sometimes 50 fps all max except 1 less bar for enviroment qualityy . only in boston i had like 25.

back then when ac2 was released e8400 and gtx 275 were almost top of the line i think so how can you say it ran pretty bad ?

for me to upgrade my cpu i need to upgrade the whole pc, did this 5 years ago, no money thrown into pc since then.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 09:44    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
flawlessly means for me what flawlessly means for everybody . i had a constant 40+ sometimes 50 fps all max except 1 less bar for enviroment qualityy . only in boston i had like 25.

back then when ac2 was released e8400 and gtx 275 were almost top of the line i think so how can you say it ran pretty bad ?

for me to upgrade my cpu i need to upgrade the whole pc, did this 5 years ago, no money thrown into pc since then.


i am sorry but 40-50 doesnt mean "flawlessly" for anyone but you Laughing
i need my pc games at 60+
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 09:51    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
StEFaN7 wrote:
flawlessly means for me what flawlessly means for everybody . i had a constant 40+ sometimes 50 fps all max except 1 less bar for enviroment qualityy . only in boston i had like 25.

back then when ac2 was released e8400 and gtx 275 were almost top of the line i think so how can you say it ran pretty bad ?

for me to upgrade my cpu i need to upgrade the whole pc, did this 5 years ago, no money thrown into pc since then.


i am sorry but 40-50 doesnt mean "flawlessly" for anyone but you Laughing
i need my pc games at 60+


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 09:58    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
StEFaN7 wrote:
flawlessly means for me what flawlessly means for everybody . i had a constant 40+ sometimes 50 fps all max except 1 less bar for enviroment qualityy . only in boston i had like 25.

back then when ac2 was released e8400 and gtx 275 were almost top of the line i think so how can you say it ran pretty bad ?

for me to upgrade my cpu i need to upgrade the whole pc, did this 5 years ago, no money thrown into pc since then.


i am sorry but 40-50 doesnt mean "flawlessly" for anyone but you Laughing
i need my pc games at 60+



it sure felt good when the game ran better for me on a 4 year old generation card than most of users with 5xx or 6xx cards


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 09:58    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 10:23    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
flawlessly means for me what flawlessly means for everybody.


Not by a long shot, mate. Nope, nein, non, no.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 10:29    Post subject:
best thing i did was play the x360 version first. Since i got used to 20-30 fps on x360, when i get 30-50 on my PC i find it pretty normal Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 10:33    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
StEFaN7 wrote:
flawlessly means for me what flawlessly means for everybody . i had a constant 40+ sometimes 50 fps all max except 1 less bar for enviroment qualityy . only in boston i had like 25.

back then when ac2 was released e8400 and gtx 275 were almost top of the line i think so how can you say it ran pretty bad ?

for me to upgrade my cpu i need to upgrade the whole pc, did this 5 years ago, no money thrown into pc since then.


i am sorry but 40-50 doesnt mean "flawlessly" for anyone but you :lol:
i need my pc games at 60+


Good luck getting stable 60+ with your single 780GTX from AC4 :3
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 10:39    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 10:46    Post subject:
StEFaN7 wrote:
flawlessly means for me what flawlessly means for everybody . i had a constant 40+ sometimes 50 fps all max except 1 less bar for enviroment qualityy . only in boston i had like 25.


Flawlessly means AT LEAST 60fps. Everything bellow 60 is not flawless.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 11:56    Post subject:
Captured a level 60 "Man-o-war" and sent to the fleet, that was quite a tough battle but having those types of ships is going to be quite useful although they are extremely slow. Razz
(It's a shame you can't board and capture the legendary ships.)
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 12:54    Post subject:
warriormax wrote:
StEFaN7 wrote:
flawlessly means for me what flawlessly means for everybody . i had a constant 40+ sometimes 50 fps all max except 1 less bar for enviroment qualityy . only in boston i had like 25.


Flawlessly means AT LEAST 60fps. Everything bellow 60 is not flawless.


at least it ran smooth , and like i said in most of the areas except boston and specialy in the winter it was 50 fps+ so for a 5+ year old card what more do you want


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 12:59    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Captured a level 60 "Man-o-war" and sent to the fleet, that was quite a tough battle but having those types of ships is going to be quite useful although they are extremely slow. Razz
(It's a shame you can't board and capture the legendary ships.)

They are too OP. One of them is as big as Manowar but even faster than you and has bigger ram as well. With such ship you could just sink whole enemy fleet.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 13:06    Post subject:
warriormax wrote:
StEFaN7 wrote:
flawlessly means for me what flawlessly means for everybody . i had a constant 40+ sometimes 50 fps all max except 1 less bar for enviroment qualityy . only in boston i had like 25.


Flawlessly means AT LEAST 60fps. Everything bellow 60 is not flawless.


Flawlessly means 60 (or whatever your monitor's refresh rate is) locked actually Cool Face Not lower, not higher.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 14:35    Post subject:
A couple of questions.

Do you get something special for collecting animus fragments and manuscripts? Do taverns give away secrets which are not deteactable on your own? Do appearance changes of the ship affect the performance of the ship?
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 14:39    Post subject:
Collecting fragments count towards the challenge goals which for every ten completed unlocks a small cheat function like being able to toggle the time of day setting, manuscripts is just for additional database info although finding them does complete the find all chests in the area task.

Taverns give tips on good convoys and such from what little I've used them, you can find them anyway although certain light blue colored treasure convoys (R on the map) and fishing/harpooning areas (Only for white whales?) requires UPlay connectivity to work.

Ship sails, figure and wheel is just for visual looks, you need to buy the upgrades to get the gameplay advantages though these do change how the ship looks as well.

EDIT: Finding the fragments also counts towards collecting everything in the current area. Smile


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 14:41    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Do appearance changes of the ship affect the performance of the ship?

No.

About the taverns - I am willing to believe that the barkeeper actually triggers the royal convoys to spawn if you talk to him but I don't know if thats true.

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and fishing/harpooning areas requires UPlay connectivity to work.
Thats not true. I captured many sharks and whales using the 3DM crack.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 14:43    Post subject:
Yes I edited the post since it was somewhat unclear, you can hunt the normal fishing spots (Up to killer whales.) but the white sperm whale only appears with the light blue UPlay icon I believe so it needs that community thing and thus a valid account or connection or how to say. Smile

EDIT: Actually I'll have to check now if that's accurate, there might be one or two locations where you can find them normally as well.
(I believe the skin or bones or what it was is used for one or two upgrades but I don't think they are all too important though I don't fully remember.)
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 14:55    Post subject:
You can buy the white whale skin from the shops, but it's only used in crafting of the whaler set. otherwise it's online only event, same as with the royal convoys.

Other then crafting the whaler set, it sells for a good amount. 5k i think


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 15:23    Post subject:
warriormax wrote:
StEFaN7 wrote:
flawlessly means for me what flawlessly means for everybody . i had a constant 40+ sometimes 50 fps all max except 1 less bar for enviroment qualityy . only in boston i had like 25.


Flawlessly means AT LEAST 60fps. Everything bellow 60 is not flawless.


I get the feeling that debate is a bit like fancy wines, i.e. most people likely couldn't tell 50 fps from 60 unless they had a display showing them.

And then if they actually had 60 fps but the display was altered to show no more than 50, they'd be exactly as disappointed with zero regard to how they actually felt playing the game.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Nov 2013 15:29    Post subject:
50fps on a 60hz display looks like dog shit (stuttery because number of frames divided by hz isn't 1 or 2). that's why consoles target either 30fps or 60fps and that's why nvidia gsync was invented, so you could play 40 or 50 fps or anything smoothly.
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Or just disable VSync although there is a chance of screen tearing. Smile
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