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Neon
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 12:46    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
i'm driving on street A, you come from street B trying to get into street A.

Good luck hoping i give you way lol.


Exactly. It makes no fucking sense.
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flipp




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 12:46    Post subject:
You must have french roots, fastest one has right of way Razz
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LittleBigProblem
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 12:53    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
i'm driving on street A, you come from street B trying to get into street A.

Good luck hoping i give you way lol.



You have to, if i'm on your right side. Very Happy
It sucks sometimes, but if there is no "give way" sign on the other road - you have to stop and give way.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 13:01    Post subject:
LittleBigProblem wrote:
Werelds wrote:
Actually..

- Blue has to give way to Green (yield to right side rule)
- Green has to give way to Yellow (yield to right side rule)
- Yellow has to give way to Blue (yield to traffic driving straight rule)


When there are more than 2 cars - give way to the right > driving straight rule. Wink

Guess you missed the part where I said that in Dutch law that's not the case.

It's something they changed not *that* long ago (a decade maybe?). The logic is that the car taking the long turn (left) may not have a car directly to his right, but by proxy he does; especially since there are plenty of T-intersections that are not 100% straight. So then the car going straight has "more" rights because he's the only one *not* making a turn.

Don't get me wrong, that's what the law says.

What happens in reality most of the time is exactly what you say; yellow goes first. It's just that our law states different, even though no one knows about it (nor is the government particularly clear with the rules, there's dozens of PDFs you have to use together to figure it all out) Razz
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BearishSun




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 13:28    Post subject:
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It's Yellow -> Green -> Blue. There is no driving straight rule over here.

Three streets are converging on an intersection as far as driving rules are concerned, the Green car isn't joining a street. The street could as easily be going to the right and the Yellow would be the one who is joining the street that Green/Blue are on. Since there are no signs there are no indication of a main road, or who is joining what.

Just because there are two names for the streets in the picture means nothing for driving rules if there are no signs to signify right of way. You treat that bit like a proper intersection.

If it helps you may imagine the horizontal street extending to the left as well.
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 15:51    Post subject:
It's an odd one. If this was a normal intersection, I would say Yellow-> Green-> Blue, "right-hand rule" and all that.

I really don't remember the specifics of T-shaped intersection in this scenario. Gonna have to find a rule book Very Happy
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flipp




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 16:26    Post subject:
This is funny, people always think their way is the only way to do it. Just imagine the yellow car is already in the middle of the intersection. This makes the whole situation much easier to understand why the green car is going first.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 16:30    Post subject:
yeah, like you'd come across that situation in real life .. like ... ever ...

no signals or anything and 3 cars at the same time. good luck finding that.
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Stige




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 16:33    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
yeah, like you'd come across that situation in real life .. like ... ever ...

no signals or anything and 3 cars at the same time. good luck finding that.


Not like that but with 4 cars yes all coming from different directions.

Where I pretty much always go first, totaly depends on the kind of car you drive around here lol who gets to go first.
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 17:04    Post subject:
flipp wrote:
This is funny, people always think their way is the only way to do it. Just imagine the yellow car is already in the middle of the intersection. This makes the whole situation much easier to understand why the green car is going first.

There is no legal way I see for the green car to go first, and the yellow car is not in the middle of the intersection, is it? Razz

How "real" the situation is is beside the point. If we are going for a real-life scenario, then I imagine every driver stopping in confusion and then one of them simply yields or goes first.

I checked the rules over here and there don't seem to be any specific points for such a scenario. You have two rules in conflict with one another, with no obvious remarks about which takes priority. The only thing I could note was that you should abide by the "right-hand rule" unless the order is specified otherwise by that same law. Yielding while turning left has no such remarks. One could assume that means that it takes a higher priority, meaning the car going straight goes first.
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 18:04    Post subject:
flipp wrote:
This is funny, people always think their way is the only way to do it. Just imagine the yellow car is already in the middle of the intersection. This makes the whole situation much easier to understand why the green car is going first.


If their way is the exact way as it is described in the rules how would that make it funny. I see a lot of people here going on how it works in the real life. But that doesn't matter one bit if one needs to know how it is specified by the rules.

And no it doesn't matter if 90% are ignorant about it or just don't follow those rules nor does it matter if the rules are impractical. There's only one right way to answer on an exam Smile


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flipp




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 18:19    Post subject:
MinderMast wrote:
flipp wrote:
This is funny, people always think their way is the only way to do it. Just imagine the yellow car is already in the middle of the intersection. This makes the whole situation much easier to understand why the green car is going first.

There is no legal way I see for the green car to go first, and the yellow car is not in the middle of the intersection, is it? Razz


http://www.verkehrsportal.de/board/index.php?showtopic=2856&st=0&p=29729&#entry29729

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Danach muss ein abbiegendes Fahrzeug entgegenkommende Fahrzeuge durchfahren lassen. Somit darf in Ihrem Beispiel Fahrzeug B bis zur Mitte der Einmündung vorfahren, jedoch nicht abbiegen, weil Fahrzeug C als Entgegenkommender Vorrang gegenüber B hat. C wiederum hat die Vorfahrt von Fahrzeug A zu beachten, welches nunmehr - hinter dem Heck von Fahrzeug B her - nach links abbiegen darf. Dann setzt Fahrzeug C seine Fahrt fort und zuletzt biegt Fahrzeug B ab.


It's explained here. In German, but cba to translate it word by word.
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flipp




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 18:23    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
flipp wrote:
This is funny, people always think their way is the only way to do it. Just imagine the yellow car is already in the middle of the intersection. This makes the whole situation much easier to understand why the green car is going first.


If their way is the exact way as it is described in the rules how would that make it funny. I see a lot of people here going on how it works in the real life. But that doesn't matter one bit if one needs to know how it is specified by the rules.

And no it doesn't matter if 90% are ignorant about it or just don't follow those rules nor does it matter if the rules are impractical. There's only one right way to answer on an exam Smile


It's only funny, when they are wrong and to ignorant to accept the right thing, because they don't want to accept or admit that they were wrong. It doesn't matter if they are following that rule in RL, some things you'll only do during the exam and the actual driving test, like you said Smile

Anyway, drive save all Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 18:26    Post subject:
Werelds are you referring to "rechtdoor op dezelfde weg gaat voor"?

EDIT: And why the fuck is everyone so butthurt about people disagreeing about the rules, remember driving rules are determined per country, how the fuck can you have this discussion with a foreigner and get butthurt at him not agreeing with you. Laughing
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flipp




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 18:31    Post subject:
That might be the problem, different rules, but I doubt they are that different. Guess rules in NL and GER should be nearly the same. Have to ask the dutchie at work Smile

Also I'm just killing some time, time of emotions over forum posts are over Smile
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MinderMast




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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 18:41    Post subject:
flipp wrote:
MinderMast wrote:
flipp wrote:
This is funny, people always think their way is the only way to do it. Just imagine the yellow car is already in the middle of the intersection. This makes the whole situation much easier to understand why the green car is going first.

There is no legal way I see for the green car to go first, and the yellow car is not in the middle of the intersection, is it? Razz


http://www.verkehrsportal.de/board/index.php?showtopic=2856&st=0&p=29729&#entry29729

Quote:
Danach muss ein abbiegendes Fahrzeug entgegenkommende Fahrzeuge durchfahren lassen. Somit darf in Ihrem Beispiel Fahrzeug B bis zur Mitte der Einmündung vorfahren, jedoch nicht abbiegen, weil Fahrzeug C als Entgegenkommender Vorrang gegenüber B hat. C wiederum hat die Vorfahrt von Fahrzeug A zu beachten, welches nunmehr - hinter dem Heck von Fahrzeug B her - nach links abbiegen darf. Dann setzt Fahrzeug C seine Fahrt fort und zuletzt biegt Fahrzeug B ab.


It's explained here. In German, but cba to translate it word by word.

I have seen similar suggestions before. Never liked them. For one, on simple roads, there is just no way I see the car stopping in the middle of the intersection in such a way that it would not stray into either of the other cars' path.

When I was still learning that stuff, the general idea was that there is no "right" way when faced with conflicting rules - it's up to the drivers to decide how they will handle this. The way you described above seems like an unncecessarily complicated way to stick to the rules that can be ignored anyway Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 19:42    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
yeah, like you'd come across that situation in real life .. like ... ever ...

no signals or anything and 3 cars at the same time. good luck finding that.


On written drivers exam you will Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 3rd Dec 2013 19:54    Post subject:
Hell it was 20 years I ago I took my test, I dont remember the actual law for the state of florida on it.
The way its done in real world here is usually whoever got there first is the one to go anytime crossing an intersection to turn in concerned.
I cant say I ever remember getting to an intersection in 20 years of drive where me and them stopped at the SAME exact time. Usually at least a second or 2 of difference, if I have, its been very very rare, (laws aside) its down to courtesy of who goes then.

If its a left hand turn, you simply you wait until its clear.


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