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russ80




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 09:57    Post subject:
Screenshots then? Or is everyone scared of NDA?


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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 10:00    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
Screenshots then? Or is everyone scared of NDA?

you have your login name all over the screenshot... so no Wink
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Casus




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 10:00    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
Screenshots then? Or is everyone scared of NDA?


You've already said you think it looks like crap based on what you've seen. Why would screenshots change that?

You can play it when it comes out or not. That's your choice Smile
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russ80




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 10:01    Post subject:
3dcViper wrote:
russ80 wrote:
Screenshots then? Or is everyone scared of NDA?

you have your login name all over the screenshot... so no Wink


I see. Nevermind then.

Casus wrote:
russ80 wrote:
Screenshots then? Or is everyone scared of NDA?


You've already said you think it looks like crap based on what you've seen. Why would screenshots change that?

You can play it when it comes out or not. That's your choice Smile


I'm thinking that what i've see ain't the beta if you guys are saying it looks great. Ignoring different tastes, opinions and all, what i've seen really looked like garbage. So i'm giving you the benefit of the doubt.
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Casus




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 10:03    Post subject:
Don't give me the benefit of the doubt, as there's no benefit involved Smile

But the game might benefit from another customer - so I'm sure the developers would like you to try it out.

That said, I very much doubt the game can go from "complete shit" to something you think is pretty.

If you don't like how it looks, just ignore the game and move on.
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russ80




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 10:05    Post subject:
Ok i'm confused. I checked the site elderscrollsonline and it does indeed look quite pretty. Now i'm wondering wtf it was i saw on Youtube.

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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 10:23    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
Ok i'm confused. I checked the site elderscrollsonline and it does indeed look quite pretty. Now i'm wondering wtf it was i saw on Youtube.

Mind Is Full Of Fuck

What you have seen on youtube is either the old beta version (from about 8-12 month ago without all the graphic-features >> Desert video??) or other Beta-Videos without maxed out graphics.

But the game doesnt look that good like in the promo-screenshots. But something between the "old" videos and the promo-screenshots. Wink
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 10:44    Post subject:
keep in mind this is a beta version, so it might be possible, that not all features/settings are enabled.

Just saying ... since it's like that a lot of times in most betas Smile

And every time people have the same discussion about it lol.
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Guy_Incognito




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 10:46    Post subject:
Bethesda is know for heavy retouching of promo material, remember Oblivion and Skyrim...
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 11:05    Post subject:
Morrowind had a couple of early images showing stuff that never made it into the actual game ( http://www.ag.ru/games/elder-scrolls-3-morrowind/screenshots/17843 ) and for Oblivion some of the early footage was a bit different ( http://www.ag.ru/games/elder-scrolls-4-oblivion/screenshots/109120 ) but still very similar to how the actual game looked.

The early Skyrim footage however is virtually identical to how the final game looked ( http://www.ag.ru/games/elder-scrolls-5-skyrim/screenshots/373481 ) and from what I can tell the same goes for TES: Online ( http://www.ag.ru/games/elder-scrolls-online/screenshots/457909 )

Of course if you meant the video trailers then you can disregard this post entirely, Morrowind, Oblivon and Skyrim all had some enhancements such as the CGI footage mixed into the Oblivion trailer or the dynamic shadows that had to be cut due to performance reasons on the consoles. Smile
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Casus




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 12:02    Post subject:
All such high-profile titles are presented in the best possible light, because they have hundreds of millions of dollars invested in them.

Hardly a surprise.

The game looks good - even great, but it's not a miracle and it won't make your screen explode.

End of story.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 12:22    Post subject:


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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 12:25    Post subject:
This could be a decent MMO, but it has the most boring and shallow combat system in any AAA MMO to date, sadly Sad
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Casus




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 12:36    Post subject:
I like the combat system and how it's very active and not dependent on watching little bars and numbers. It feels like Skyrim combat, pretty much - only with more active abilities.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 12:56    Post subject:
Well the graphics look indeed good, if you are at a minimum distance.
But if you go closer, i could see the really low res textures. But the polygon count was still pretty high for most objects, just the textures looked bad.


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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 13:05    Post subject:
Casus wrote:
I like the combat system and how it's very active and not dependent on watching little bars and numbers. It feels like Skyrim combat, pretty much - only with more active abilities.


Skyrim's combat, imho, was also boring beyond belief. There are loads of MMOs, where you no longer have to watch bars and numbers. This combat system is simply too shallow. Very small active deck, and no synergy system - which is a must, if you have a smaller deck.

I like the graphics, but it's nowhere near the levels of TSW for example - and worst of all are the player characters, who are undistinguishable from each other(at least until level 8, where I am) - that's because the player aesthetics need a lot of work.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 13:10    Post subject:
The combat is the worst thing about it, it's appallingly bad.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 13:37    Post subject:
Pretty dissapointing Troll Dad
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 14:24    Post subject:
KaiserSoze666 wrote:
The combat is the worst thing about it, it's appallingly bad.


These comments confuse me. With the exception of the clipping which definitely needs sorting, the combat is exactly like Oblivion/Skyrim. And people play that with much less whining.

I kinda wonder exactly WHAT people want from combat, as I don't think anyone who dislikes this combat style even knows. Unless you think WOW's or GW2 combat is the way forward, to which I dismiss you as irrelevant.

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Radicalus




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 14:53    Post subject:
Skyrim's combat was bad to boot. In MMO form, it's the same combat, only slowed down, and even more dull. I have never seen praise for Skyrim's combat, it was the unnecessary evil coming in the same package as the nice game.

Oh, and I know exactly, what I want from combat: depth. The need to use brains to make it work right. Good combat allows players with great skill to be that much better at it, than those with less skill - twitch shooters, best example.

This combat system is very restrictive. You don't have to give much thought to your build. So building is out the window. Then at least make the combat itself skill requiring, but not even that. There's just no tactics nor twitch required. A monkey could most probably play it.

Example for good build mechanics: DDO or TSW.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 15:06    Post subject:
Not only the combat, but animations feel and look bad as well. Everything from running, jumping and even lip syncing looks awful. Especially the lips sync, which is just pathetic, and the running animation while in combat - like an hunched old lady...
The UI is clunky too. Be it the character, skill or inventory panels, they all are bad. Even the keyboard controls for the UI are "consolised"...

The game have potential as a MMO, but it lacks any polish (they can't polish it enough for just the 4 months left) and the subscription model won't help it at all... I'm certain they will drop it not even a year from release.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 16:37    Post subject:
russ80 wrote:
Screenshots then? Or is everyone scared of NDA?










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3dcViper




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 18:59    Post subject:
lol what kind of screenshots are those? Extremly poor quality and its the bad looking desert again Wink
I would really like to make screenshots but all "watermark-removal" tools are not working anymore. There were some for older beta versions.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 19:33    Post subject:
Just make the screenshot to jpeg and then run it through the jpegmini site, that should take care of stuff I believe.
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 19:35    Post subject:
3dcViper wrote:
lol what kind of screenshots are those? Extremly poor quality and its the bad looking desert again Wink
I would really like to make screenshots but all "watermark-removal" tools are not working anymore. There were some for older beta versions.


Atleast I had the balls to post some Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 19:46    Post subject:
Seriously, that UI Laughing Laughing
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 19:52    Post subject:
xExtreme wrote:
Seriously, that UI Laughing Laughing


what about it ?
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DarkRohirrim




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 19:54    Post subject:
It's absolutely terrible, just like Skyrim's UI.
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 19:55    Post subject:
it's functional. What more you need ?
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Jan 2014 19:55    Post subject:
Laughing
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