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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 16:55    Post subject:
Been stated a few times, there will be open beta before release. So you'll get to play it eventually with the latest things.

Sin317 wrote:
no need to use latest builds for a stress test.


True, but it gives a bad impression on some. Most are there to try it out and couldn't care much about actual stress testing. Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 17:12    Post subject:
Didn't they rule out open beta?

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We will not be holding a traditional open beta, but if you sign up to participate in the ESO beta prior to launch and are eligible per our Terms of Service, you will get an invite to a future beta event. We will be holding several very large beta sessions that include beta key giveaway promotions before the game launches. Please make sure to sign up for beta if you have not yet done so: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en/beta

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/737/kw/


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 17:39    Post subject:
what that means is, that it's just a "very easy to get in" closed beta.

Terminology really doesn't change much. "Open" just means, everyone can get in. But if you give away millions of keys, it's just about the same lol.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 17:54    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
what that means is, that it's just a "very easy to get in" closed beta.

Terminology really doesn't change much. "Open" just means, everyone can get in. But if you give away millions of keys, it's just about the same lol.


easy closed beta? don't think so where is my invite then lol - every streamer and fuckstick that praises for money and likes get one but I did not, so easy for the PTS closed beta? doubt it. I would like to play often till it goes live but probably no chance of that so close to release now.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 18:05    Post subject:
Well you still want one? Been throwing keys out like it was the end of times. Stopped doing it here because I thought everyone had one already

Or you missed the part that the 'end beta' aka the one before release is the Closed 'but really open' Beta? Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 18:11    Post subject:
Right. There's the closed beta, then there's the closed public beta. Not the same thing. They have different builds, restrictions, and durations. Those who are looking for a demo out of the closed public beta are barking up the wrong tree. It's purely intended to gather feedback and technical data from the stress of testers. There are over 4.4 million beta forum accounts and many invites didn't even come with that access, while the closed beta has very few people in it; it's clear that the closed public test is for stress-testing.

Is that fair? I don't know. Personally I don't want to spoil the game for myself so my time in the betas since last year has been entirely on testing. The people in the PTS are veterans who will likely be leading the charge down the road...that is, leaders of major guilds, people who run the largest ESO sites, people who will be making the popular add-ons, and those who will be helping the team develop instances and other content on the PTS after release. If that isn't your role then you shouldn't be surprised that your experience falls short.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 18:28    Post subject:
You honestly think they pick people like that, come on now... don't be gullible. There are of course like in any beta a set of specifically picked persons be it media/gaming communities/modders... but the majority is still a roll of the dice.


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 18:49    Post subject:
My response was to moosenoodles, not you...although what I stated is accurate and public knowledge.
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 18:53    Post subject:
Maxxify wrote:
My response was to moosenoodles, not you...although what I stated is accurate and public knowledge.


The first part yes, I was responding to the second part Smile


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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 21:03    Post subject:
oh hai guys lol

gee all I was pointing out was there are people that play ESO daily not just beta weekends, I really wanted to get in on that but never did, so was lumbered with this weekend bull crap.

Its why I asked if anyone had that access I could use till release Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 21:05    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
gee all I was pointing out was there are people that play ESO daily not just beta weekends,


All you do is plant hate seeds, one thread at a time!
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PostPosted: Mon, 3rd Mar 2014 23:46    Post subject:


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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Mar 2014 03:55    Post subject:
http://en.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1zgifa/tamriel_foundry_the_new_elitist_jerks/

It begins...

(and also I understand moose wanting in the privileged beta, sadly it's extremely against the rules to share) Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Mar 2014 09:32    Post subject:
Maxxify wrote:
http://en.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1zgifa/tamriel_foundry_the_new_elitist_jerks/

It begins...

(and also I understand moose wanting in the privileged beta, sadly it's extremely against the rules to share) Very Happy


I would not call it sharing if the original participant was not using it anymore and did not care for the game Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 4th Mar 2014 10:32    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
Maxxify wrote:
http://en.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1zgifa/tamriel_foundry_the_new_elitist_jerks/

It begins...

(and also I understand moose wanting in the privileged beta, sadly it's extremely against the rules to share) Very Happy


I would not call it sharing if the original participant was not using it anymore and did not care for the game Very Happy


Besides we're on the hump... We still have that old spirit of the open seas! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 6th Mar 2014 09:00    Post subject:




The way I see it, every life is a pile of good things and bad things. The good things don’t always soften the bad things, but vice versa, the bad things don’t always spoil the good things and make them unimportant.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 12:17    Post subject:


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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 13:51    Post subject:
I didnt receive an email for that, if there is one
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 13:56    Post subject:
deadpoetic wrote:
I didnt receive an email for that, if there is one


did u fill out ur survey? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 14:06    Post subject:
Damn no!! hahaha it would have been too negative Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 14:21    Post subject:
scaramonga wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fv10FCyNHg

This was good.
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 16:31    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
scaramonga wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fv10FCyNHg

This was good.


Very good review and a very good point about mmo immersion. When you're questing and you know can get ganked at any moment, it increases the immersion 1000x Smile good old stranglethorn and booty bay is what I'm talking about
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PostPosted: Fri, 7th Mar 2014 17:28    Post subject:
I'm really looking forward to the next beta weekend with all the changes 0.81 brings, especially NPC collision and the thousands of bug fixes Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Mar 2014 03:29    Post subject:
http://en.reddit.com/r/elderscrollsonline/comments/1zukyj/another_pts_group_has_been_created_check_your/

For those that didn't know the PTS beta NDA was lifted two weeks ago (minus streaming restrictions), and now they're inviting more generally, so check your inboxes! Very Happy They're probably still screening to some extent but now that they don't have to worry about the NDA they should be letting in a lot more people.
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Mar 2014 03:52    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
scaramonga wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fv10FCyNHg

This was good.


Really? I thought it was one of the most rambling, shitty videos on the internet that didn't mention chemtrails.

I mean he's right about some things, but way off base about others.
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Mar 2014 04:23    Post subject:
Yuuichi wrote:
LeoNatan wrote:
scaramonga wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fv10FCyNHg

This was good.


Really? I thought it was one of the most rambling, shitty videos on the internet that didn't mention chemtrails.

I mean he's right about some things, but way off base about others.

The only thing I didn't agree with was that there shouldn't be a story. But then again, I hate online-only shits anyway, so I'd take a single player game with a story any day. And considering how MMOs are not trying to challenge you with an AI but make you grind for XP, the story indeed does not have any place in this game. The only MMO that doesn't have a "story" but still has a "story" is EVE Online, where the entire playerbase and their decisions make up the story. But that's very singleton instance.
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PostPosted: Sat, 8th Mar 2014 04:33    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:

The only thing I didn't agree with was that there shouldn't be a story. But then again, I hate online-only shits anyway, so I'd take a single player game with a story any day. And considering how MMOs are not trying to challenge you with an AI but make you grind for XP, the story indeed does not have any place in this game. The only MMO that doesn't have a "story" but still has a "story" is EVE Online, where the entire playerbase and their decisions make up the story. But that's very singleton instance.


Well, my main complaint with his video is how poorly he made his case. And I think he places way too much emphasis on ganking as "immersion." Not to mention that there have been successful MMOs without world pvp, and even at its height probably somewhere between 40-60% of wow players played on PvE realms.

Hell, I say this as the guy who is usually the ganker.
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