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Remember also that new derpsoles has 8-cores so future titles will be for sure highly multithreaded and i7 is like 30% faster than i5 if its properly used. No point to get i5 now for current titles, since you have money for i7.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2014 13:19 Post subject: |
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if "used properly" doesn't mean gaming, so there will be no significant difference between using i5 or hexacore i7
stay with i5
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2014 13:21 Post subject: |
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thanks. Yeah if there isn't anything worthwhile as a gamer in the 4770k, i guess i go with the 4670k. It is like a 100 bucks cheaper lol.
And about the OC, i don't take the h80i to OC the shit out of it, i take it, because i'm tired of having to mount a big ass huge mounted of a air cooler lol. I'll OC, but i don't plan to OC any more then i would on air (or just slightly above i guess, depending on how well it goes anyways).
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2014 15:16 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | Since you are getting new one, i suggest getting i7, im pretty sure games are going to go multithreaded soon. Then get some decent mobo which supports atleast 8x/8x SLI (avoid ASSrock, they make shit boards these days, unless its the absolutely top of the line model). Sandy uses P67 and Z67, works also on Z77, Ivy works on Z77, Haswell uses new Z87.
If i would be buying new mobo and CPU i would get ASUS Maximus VI Hero (i like red & black so i love ROG boards  ) and i7-4770K (they are in your price range). Other good choice for mobo would be Gigabyte Z87X-OC. |
I completely disagree, Extreme4 Pro from ASRock is one of the best bangs for the buck on the market for a while now, and I know that for a fact, because I've been against that brand for quite some time and I took the risks of getting one and have no regrets. Neither does anyone whom I told to pick that one up, numerous times. Unless he's planning to do some serious hardware mods, buying maximus series or other overpriced stuff is just pointless.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Mar 2014 15:31 Post subject: |
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well, you actually make a point for me to actually get the 4770k ^^. Since it has HT (so it would cover the octocore issue i guess lol) and also up to 10% seems quite a big gap to me (especially since i don't want the cpu to bottleneck my 2 770's).
the money isn't really an issue (don't wanna brag, but since i quit drinking and drugging myself, i've got quite enough to spend on pc stuff rofl). i also have a lot of paid work coming next couple weeks (yeah surprise, some anarchists actually do work haha) plus the stuff i replace i sell to my neighbour for roughly 330€, so a big chunk is already covered with that
Anyway :
I think after taking everything in consideration, i guess i'll go with this upgrade next week :
INTEL Core i7-4770K "Haswell", 4x 3.5GHz 270€
CORSAIR Hydro Series H80i 75€
ASUS Z87-Pro, Intel Z87 138€
CORSAIR Vengeance 4x4GB 123€
(i prefer 4x4 then 2x8 for tighter CL) and 16gb should be enough for some time.)
total of 606€ ~ (minus 330€) = 276€
other optional upgrades (this or next month)
SAMSUNG 840 Evo Series SSD, 500GB 210€
(250gb just isn't enough, not with games that are 20-50gb lol)
CREATIVE Sound Blaster Z 70€
(first gonna "see" how the HD on the z87 board sounds lol)
SEAGATE Desktop HDD.15, 4.0TB 124€
(pure archiving, my other 2+1tb drives are full lol)
probably going to buy the 4tb this month as well and wait for next month for the 500gb SSD
my inner geek is quite happy lol.
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| Posted: Sun, 16th Mar 2014 05:45 Post subject: |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 16:09 Post subject: |
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looked at some benchmarks and yeah, adding a second 256gb and put them in raid0 seems like a nice idea indeed.
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 17:19 Post subject: |
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You are not gonna see any difference in general usage tho (gaming etc..). Not unless you are transferring big files over the SSDs.
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 18:12 Post subject: |
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well, i need more space anyway and if i add another 250gb, just as well put them into raid, no ? Or is AHCI better (for gaming) ?
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 18:18 Post subject: |
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But if you need space, why put them in raid?
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 18:19 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Mar 2014 18:19 Post subject: |
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Aaah i missed the 0.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 14:47 Post subject: |
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so, ordered the cpu, mobo and cooler
decided to go with the 4670k after all, since there is no reason to go with a 4770k, since i "only" use my pc for gaming and well, the new intel's are coming in a couple months lol.
so :
4670k
ASUS Z87-Pro
corsair h80i
for a total of 524CHF or 430€
which is just about what i'll get for selling my old mobo+cpu+ram+ my old 660ti
now all i HAVE to buy new, is the ram. (everything else is optional at this point).
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 16:30 Post subject: |
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awesome
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 16:49 Post subject: |
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still not sure, if i should go for 2x8 or 4x4gb ram. I mean, 16gb will suffice for years to come (well, certainly longer then it takes for me to upgrade my pc's lol) so i don't care about slots (free slots for future etc).
just from a performance point of vue, 4x4 should be better than 2x8 no ? Or is the difference even observable ? i mean, yeah, the CL timings are lower on 4x4, but is the difference actually noticeable "real life" ?
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 17:04 Post subject: |
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AFAIK the difference isnt noticeable unless you plan on using that integrated GPU.
I myself have 2x8Gb Ram, though I'm not planning on going 32Gb anytime soon, since I've yet to fill my 16Gb.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 17:06 Post subject: |
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yeah like i said, i doubt that i'll need more than 16gb in the foreseeable future rofl. And by the time i do, i'll have a new mobo and cpu anyway (considering i upgrade my pc like every year hehe).
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 19:16 Post subject: |
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4x4 is only feasible if you have a quad channel MB, which I really doubt
so 2x8 is the best thing atm
I've killed my page file, and so far with all my gaming, my peak memory usage is 8,9GB.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 21:19 Post subject: |
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| StrEagle wrote: | 4x4 is only feasible if you have a quad channel MB, which I really doubt
so 2x8 is the best thing atm
I've killed my page file, and so far with all my gaming, my peak memory usage is 8,9GB. |
well, it should be dual-dual no ? i mean, it can't just have 2 sticks in dual and 2 sticks in solo ^^.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th Mar 2014 21:47 Post subject: |
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not really sure, but I think that 2xdual channel isn't faster than 1xdual channel
but quad channel is faster than dual channel
soo 4x4 on dual channel is same speed but same ram
4x8 on dual channel is same speed but more ram
| Quote: | | 2x8GB usually provides better stability (less stress on memory controller) and provides a feature upgrade path. If price is of no concern definately get 2x8. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-channel_memory_architecture
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2212244
edit: also don't think about buying quad channel MB for gaming - it's 4770K vs 4670K again - 2% performance for $200+
in my thread in the forum I was looking into going down the 2011 road..
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Mar 2014 01:40 Post subject: |
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@Sin317 say hello to X79-UP4
I was looking to buy it last year with 4820K
and 4x4GB dimms for quad
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Mar 2014 15:45 Post subject: |
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I'm jelly bro. Well, except for the mouse 
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Mar 2014 17:27 Post subject: |
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well, i love the explorer 3.0, but it's getting difficult to replace it (expansive, they're at like 100$ now, since they aren't produced anymore).
Sadly i haven't found another mouse yet, that could replace it. Most mice are just too small for my manly hands !
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