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sausje
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I can post this over and over again, but i tax my vertex 3 heavy, yet not a single issue thus far with it 
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Sin317
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tonizito
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Jan 2014 23:48 Post subject: |
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| tolanri wrote: | | tonizito wrote: | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/01/30/are-ssds-reliable/
| Quote: | | But overall, a gaming-biased install oughtn’t be too hard on an SSD. What I would advise against is torrenting heavily on an SSD. I have no hard proof here. Just my anecdotal experience. And it’s that SSDs don’t take kindly to 24/7 torrenting. |
Wha... why... how... just...
Using an SSD to store downloading torrents.. just... WHY?!
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Uhm because if you have internet connection faster than 100Mbps, torrenting will become very taxing on HDD, to a point they will just throttle the download speeds if you use high-speed private trackers? (To some degree it depends on client and it's settings of course, but generally if you have like 1Gbps+ torrents will get throttled no matter what if you are on HDD) But I guess it's just case of minority users, myself having 22Mbps home connection, possibly getting 120Mbps next year or so... |
So... risk an expensive SSD and your data just for bragging about downloading multiGB torrents (perfect material for something that is still fairly limited in storage capacity BTW...) in a few minutes.
Well, as long as people don't bitch when it goes tits up then no harm in there I guess.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Jan 2014 11:08 Post subject: |
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I'd rather RAID0 two 2TB-drives and use them for torrent downloads than waste enormous amounts of write cycles on the MLC NAND.
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sausje
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Jan 2014 11:20 Post subject: |
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I'm running 2x 1TB drives in raid0, yet they still can't keep up when going full speed download with torrents... Still has to flush to disk etc..
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Jan 2014 11:37 Post subject: |
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How fast internet do you have? I managed to tweak deluge (on windows) for a friend to handle 13MB/s or so on a single HDD.
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sausje
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Jan 2014 11:47 Post subject: |
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| tolanri wrote: | | How fast internet do you have? I managed to tweak deluge (on windows) for a friend to handle 13MB/s or so on a single HDD. |
150mbit, about 19MB/s
| sabin1981 wrote: | I've never had any flushing issues with uTorrent/qbBitorrent on my downloads drive which is a single WD Caviar Black. 100Mbit line is around 12.5MB/s and it works fine  |
Well back when i bought the HDD's, i didn't had any money for a fancy WD Caviar Black, so mine are just 2 Spinpoint F3's
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sausje
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Jan 2014 14:19 Post subject: |
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Well that wouldn't surprise me..
But don't forget, it's not a 1 file 19MB/s it's downloading, it's all these tiny files/blocks that kinda screw it up for the HDD speed.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Jan 2014 14:43 Post subject: |
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Yeah that causes UTorrent to just bug out if I try to download say the Mame roms and HD cache files simultaneously, QBittorent works much better but that's understandable since UTorrent has gone down a bit in quality since 3.0, 3.4 might fix some stuff but they are already on a 3.4.1 beta to fix issues with 3.4.0 heh.
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Sin317
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sausje
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Jan 2014 16:56 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | edit : and it's not like you're going to max 100mbit or more with a torrent ^^ |
Oh yes you do. i max out 19MB/s on my torrents.
All depends on how proper your tracker source is.
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sausje
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| Posted: Fri, 31st Jan 2014 17:16 Post subject: |
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Well first you talk about megabyte in the first sentence and the last sentence you talk about megabit.
So stick with the same values if you want to make it obvious that you didn't talk about internet speeds but still the write speeds on the HDD. 
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So after some time with my new pc, I noticed in samsung magician that my write/month was 1TB 
so I was wondering wtf was happening, and after some poking around, I found out that it was all my chrome browsing/youtube usage WOW
so now I moved Chrome temp folders on my HDD and monthly usage dropped 10 times..
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2014 18:34 Post subject: I have left. |
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Raccoon
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Apr 2014 23:14 Post subject: |
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Mister_s Maybe you should consider something from WD Blue series, or even WD Geen if you desire silence above other things.
WD Blue WD10EZEX (1TB, 64MB, SATA/600) <- looks nice
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iNs
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Apr 2014 20:06 Post subject: |
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Thanks for the advice, I'll look into it.
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2014 23:03 Post subject: |
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Kjngston v300 series. Yay or nay? I read good stuff online but I'd like to get a final opinion from the Hump, it never steered me wrong until now.
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iNs
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Apr 2014 23:51 Post subject: |
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| ClaudeFTW wrote: | | Kjngston v300 series. Yay or nay? I read good stuff online but I'd like to get a final opinion from the Hump, it never steered me wrong until now. |
definitely nay, especially since they started putting async nands inside
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 00:02 Post subject: |
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| Raccoon wrote: | Mister_s Maybe you should consider something from WD Blue series, or even WD Geen if you desire silence above other things.
WD Blue WD10EZEX (1TB, 64MB, SATA/600) <- looks nice |
Thanks, I went for that drive. Red seems to be designed for continuous operation (in a NAS as WD puts it) and has lower rpm (though they don't seem to market it). I don't need continuous spinning, so I went for Blue.
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Apr 2014 02:43 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | Raccoon wrote: | Mister_s Maybe you should consider something from WD Blue series, or even WD Geen if you desire silence above other things.
WD Blue WD10EZEX (1TB, 64MB, SATA/600) <- looks nice |
Thanks, I went for that drive. Red seems to be designed for continuous operation (in a NAS as WD puts it) and has lower rpm (though they don't seem to market it). I don't need continuous spinning, so I went for Blue. |
I have that HDD, it's been serving me nicely, can't complain really.  It only has a 2 year warranty, but it's quiet and quite fast all things considered. |
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| iNs wrote: | | ClaudeFTW wrote: | | Kjngston v300 series. Yay or nay? I read good stuff online but I'd like to get a final opinion from the Hump, it never steered me wrong until now. |
definitely nay, especially since they started putting async nands inside |
Samsung 840 it is then! No wonder they're so cheap.
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after i've rearmed my specs into my new tower (Thermaltake Core V71), my SSD works as it should as always did
...The thing is, whenever i go to extract an usb device (like the iPod) in a "Safe way" via Windows 7 (task bar-> left click on extractable? devices,) , there it appears my SSD like if it could be able to be removable...
...That wasn't there before the change.. Have i done something wrong?..is there anything i can do to disable that just incase i accidentally click it and dunno what might happen next??,aka REMOVE THAT BUTTON.
EDIT: I think the reason is because the SATA Cables connected between the motherboard and HDD/SSD/DVD are differently placed than when my old tower was.. the "L" bent SATA cable at the HDDs fitted back then perfectly and the long slim part was plugged into the MB, but now since i can't plug the "L" shaped SATA to the HDDs due to the metal chassis of the tower,i had to plug em in a different way, and now my SSD is in the "blue" SATA6GB slot, the HDD in the "Gray" S6GB slot and the DVD in the "Light blue" SATA3 slot.. that's what i've heard as "Hot Swapping"
If i bought 3 of these cables, would they be connected the same way without any booting problems and also without cable troubles? http://www.pccomponentes.com/sharkoon_cable_certificado_sata3_6gb_s_75cm_negro.html
Thanks in advance
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