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archermac




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jan 2011 00:18    Post subject:
If they really wanted to, they could have made a GAME that would fit on those 3 DL-DVDs they used, but no, there is ~6GB game data and ~30GB prerendered video (PS3). The X360 videos are compress with bink@576p so it ended up being 18GB (5.9 ; 5.8 ; 6.6).
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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jan 2011 11:33    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
and you know what XIII-2 really is ... somewhere here in this topic is a link to a site when the main creator said if this game would not have been a multi platform title this game would have been bigger [the BD 25 gig vs DVD 6,7 gig (why i say its 6,7 the rest of those 1,8 gigs are padding data and system updates for 360)]

You mean even more prerendered cutscenes? Rolling Eyes
I mean game data in FF13 can easily fit on 1 DVD, the rest are just videos which only waste your time
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jan 2011 11:47    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:
Hfric wrote:
and you know what XIII-2 really is ... somewhere here in this topic is a link to a site when the main creator said if this game would not have been a multi platform title this game would have been bigger [the BD 25 gig vs DVD 6,7 gig (why i say its 6,7 the rest of those 1,8 gigs are padding data and system updates for 360)]

You mean even more prerendered cutscenes? Rolling Eyes
I mean game data in FF13 can easily fit on 1 DVD, the rest are just videos which only waste your time
Laughing not those but actual gameplay , new world etc..
guess i am forced to dig up that link to that article that had those pictures
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/01/13/square-enix-cut-a-games-worth-of-content-from-final-fantasy-xii/
and then
http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/15/yoshinori-kitase-cut-final-fantasy-xiii-content-will-not-return/ [full article name "Yoshinori Kitase: Cut Final Fantasy XIII content will not return as DLC"]

so we/they knew XIII-2 will be made


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KrutojPoc




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jan 2011 13:17    Post subject:
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It turns out there once were many more labyrinthine paths and dungeons in Final Fantasy XIII, but they got cut. An interview (in Japanese) over at FF-Reunion with art director Isamu Kamikokuryou ("No you!" to his friends) has him saying that the team removed enough extra locations from the title to make up a whole other game entirely.

Every decent developer cuts and edits stuff before releasing the game. If they removed content that only means it was complete crap OR (like you said) they knew they are going to make sequel and so they'll just use that content in FF13-2 later. There are games like Assassin's Creed or Fallout with huge open worlds that fit on Xbox DVD i don't see why 6,8 gb is not enough to hold a few more corridors or caves in FF13.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jan 2011 14:17    Post subject:
Aye, Spidey is right about one thing; it's been common knowledge for a while now that SE claimed they had cut an entire game's worth of content from the retail game. It's not due to storage medium though (silly Spidey Razz) more due to time and budget constraints... not to mention the inevitable (or so it seemed...) DLC raping they were going to do. I was actually surprised when they later announced there would be no DLC afterall.

Oh well, guess we'll find out soon enough when XIII-2 comes out >_>
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jan 2011 19:19    Post subject:
the only thing is i don't give a flying fuck about this game when games like TwoWorlds 2 are 1000x better


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 7th Jun 2011 12:03    Post subject:
FFXIII-2 got dated; December 2011 .. but only in Japan. NA/EU release hasn't been announced yet other than "sometime in 2012" Rolling Eyes Also the NA/EU versions of FFXIII are getting the updated content from the Japanese 360 version, such as "Easy Mode" That patch rolls out July 21st.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Nov 2011 20:16    Post subject:
http://www.incgamers.com/Previews/359/less-linear-more-mature-final-fantasy-xiii-2-preview

So instead of linear corridors, now it's mission-based instances. Squeenix are utterly fucking retarded, they LITERALLY haven't got a clue what their fans or audiences want.
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Nov 2011 22:09    Post subject:
Imho FFXIII-2 looks better than FFXIII. Just from the bits and pieces I have seen and read about it.
And it has moogles in it, kupo

Oh and the part in FFXIII where you could run around and do the missions, was actually the best part of the game. If the whole game would have been like that, it would have been so great. :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Nov 2011 22:16    Post subject:
Oh it looks good, no doubt about it, but they're touting is an "open world, free roam" game and it just isn't. It's more linearity in a different package. Instead of linear corridors, it's segmented instances. As much as I disliked the MMO-alike look and feel of FFXII, and pretty much everything else for that matter, at least THAT had the world right. FFXIII-2 just looks like Phantasy Star Online, which would be AWESOME if it wasn't a Final Fantasy title Sad

As for running around and doing missions in FFXIII... huh? Did we play the same game? You mean Gran Pulse? Egh. That wasn't running around doing misisons, it was a barren landscape with you hunting "marks" :\

I miss Final Fantasy. The REAL games. Even X was linear as all hell Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 10:06    Post subject:
I'd like to kick in the teeth of the decision making fucks for this game. I'd like to rip out their hair and shove it in their asses. Fuck this game is pissing me the fuck off. 20 hours into it and suddenly im facing some shit boss on a timer which apparently is fucking hard if you don't have haste for saszhsdjksd something shitty (japanese can't for the fucking life of them make coherent english names). And i didn't even know about haste until now, so i can't even get the points to upgrade it Laughing

/rant over.. FUCK
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 11:03    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
I'd like to kick in the teeth of the decision making fucks for this game. I'd like to rip out their hair and shove it in their asses. Fuck this game is pissing me the fuck off. 20 hours into it and suddenly im facing some shit boss on a timer which apparently is fucking hard if you don't have haste for saszhsdjksd something shitty (japanese can't for the fucking life of them make coherent english names). And i didn't even know about haste until now, so i can't even get the points to upgrade it Laughing

/rant over.. FUCK


pussy Razz

go play lightning returns and bear with all the incredibly retarded design choices that make the game an absolute fucking chore to play every damn second of it, and still go and do all the sidequests and finish with the good ending.
yes i did it, and i fucking hate myself for it Sad

to sum it up,
how would you like to not be able to level up by fighting enemies in an rpg, while having to do everything on a fucking time limit, including beating some tough bosses?
oh yes and dont forget that most quests can only be triggered during a specific time of day, so have fun running from one side of the world to another and back constantly.
Vomit

after finishing lightning returns i played dark souls 2, and it felt like the most chilled out game ever in comparison, i didnt have to constantly think about thousand different things like quest giver locations, quest timings, all while being under pressure of a ticking clock. the game is a 50 hours long headache or micromanagement.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 12:07    Post subject:
@The_Zeel

Couldn't you use a save editor and give her 5000 hours left on the timer? Laughing
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 12:13    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
@The_Zeel

Couldn't you use a save editor and give her 5000 hours left on the timer? Laughing


to be honest after the initial 10 hours i just followed a faq and finished most of the stuff in around half the time, so the time limit wasnt a problem that way, it was still a total mind-rape though having to keep in mind so many different things.

without a faq, good luck managing even half of it, many of these quests and quest givers are so obscure that it would require you checking every single corner of the world 3 times every single day, and even then its not likely that you would manage to finish all the quests.

some quests are triggered during a specific time of day, some quests only during a specific day, some quests during a specific time of a specific day only after finishing specific quest #7 and #35...
not to forget, some quests can only be triggered by failing others, meaning you have to replay the game atleast once to truly finish everything.

you basically have to read through the whole faq and cross-reference the shit out of everything.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 12:33    Post subject:
Fuck that. What terrible game design :\ I never read FAQs when playing an initial run but if a game is so obtusely designed that it's more confusing and irritating to play, then to hell with it.
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 12:46    Post subject:
i never use faqs for initial playthroughs, but in this case using the faq didnt make it easier but simply provided a different kind of challenge.
it made the game even more headache-inducing, but saving you half the time atleast.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 12:48    Post subject:
Fuck it, I'll just trainer the damned thing and lock the timer - that's what I wanted in the first place anyhow. Nothing ruins my enjoyment of a game more than artificial timers and restrictions, especially in an RPG for crying out loud. I like to explore and to take things in, not be forced to run from one corner of the game to the other, ignoring everything along the way because of some nonsense timer.
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 13:03    Post subject:
the only reason i finished the game was the wish to put the whole 13 trilogy behind me.
during one frustrating boss fight´s 5th try, i gave myself the ultimatum:
you die now and you are done with this fucking game, if you manage to win, take it as a sign that you have to beat it no matter what.
as luck would have it i actually beat him with something like 10 hp left
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 13:15    Post subject:
Hahaha! Honestly though, who the hell came up with the galactically stupid idea of not earning exp from combat? It's ridiculous and completely takes away the point and desire for combat Neutral
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 13:23    Post subject:
coupled with the fact that for the first half of the game most enemies have to be staggered to hell and back to do any damage, making every little battle last for ages while draining your precious time and giving you shit in return, it makes you almost rake your eyes and die a bit inside every time a battle is initiated. oh and did i mention ps3 version´s frequent drops to 10 fps during battle, making crucially important parrying extremely difficult at times?

whoever created all these designs that perfectly work in tandem towards lobotomizing the player, is a fucking sadistic genius Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 15th Apr 2014 14:59    Post subject:
Glad i'm not the only one who thinks the idiots making these games are, well, idiots Laughing
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