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| blackeyedboy wrote: | Yeah, sadly I agree too with that "critique". I had no idea what the game was missing when I started playing. But... something was off indeed.
Haven't progressed too far, but even the start area isn't as memorable as the one from DS1. |
I haven't started yet, but I do expect its gonna be more approachable then playing ds 1 for the first time.
Seems logical considering that its become one of the mainstream staples of "hardcore gamer" oriented games.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 20:42 Post subject: |
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it increase the "invicibility" frame you have when you roll.
It also makes you drink estus flask faster
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 20:42 Post subject: |
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thats not true
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 20:43 Post subject: |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | I understand why people would hate camera motion blur but why disable object morion blur is beyond me... |
Because it's mor(i)on blur, duh 
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 20:44 Post subject: |
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What a HUGE HUGE letdown this game is.
DS1, while a poor port from the consoles, was infinitely better than this pile of console crap.
The graphics. I can see why they're locked to 60fps, otherwise they could probably reach 200+ on most modern systems. Please feel free to point out to me if I am largely mistaken, but I see nothing particularly GOOD about them. I mean sure, they show your repeated and inevitable demise well enough, but I'm not seeing anything that would make me go 'Ohh that's good' - unlike those wonderful 'alpha' versions we saw.
Only reason I can think of is so the new Uber-consoles could show this in 60fps happyvision - no need to worry if the PC can handle it; if it's good enough for conderps, its good enough for PC elitists...
But besides the graphics... it's just such a totally un-fun bitch to play. Maybe it's just me, but I don't really find 2-hit deaths much fun. And I'm talking about the very first 'proper' combat, against those large knight-things... I felt quite the accomplishment when I eventually killed the first one - only to be met by another with a huge mace. Then another. And another 3. And another 2.
Eventually I just thought 'Fuck this', after my (ugly) redhaired knight turned into a Thriller reject. Even after using the effergies, combat was clunky, hopelessly unresponsive, and well, not fun. And when I finally managed to flee into another building... then there was some Dragon Knight - with an even bigger weapon swung around like it was made from balsa wood. And I died. And found myself having to do the WHOLE THING AGAIN.
I turned it off at this point.
Now, please, don't get me wrong. I love a game with challenge. Games that make you think, how to figure out a tough opponent, pulling it off and feeling that sweet sense of accomplishment are few and far between in this world.
For me, DS2 is not one of those games.
It's almost as if the developers wondered how they could make a game such as DS1 MORE challenging... but more 'up to date'.
In my experience, I think i've only ever played one other game with as much frustration and disappointment in the game and graphics.
That game was E.T on the Atari...
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 20:48 Post subject: |
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Gah, I've been replaying God Hand and now my dodging is all off because the two games use different buttons for that. Normally adapting to different games isn't an issue but God Hand is a special beast. Your fingers start to act on their own after a while. Now I'm getting pummeled by easy shit in Dark Souls 2.
I think I need to finish one at a time. Maybe it's because I've gotten older but I can't casually pick up and play hard games like these anymore. I need to play it consistently otherwise I become terrible.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 21:00 Post subject: |
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Protip: use a mace. You can kill the big knights in 3-4 hits.
And strike weapons are probably the best in DS2 overall.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 21:23 Post subject: |
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I am just about to finish DS1 for the first time, and then wanted to start with DS2. Would you guys say I could also enjoy Demon Souls? i haven't played that yet. Or would you say I now spoiled for that game now?
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 21:29 Post subject: |
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| Shumy wrote: | | Pey wrote: | | Dont buy the russian key, it´s not region free. I bought it and activated it via vpn, but now I cant install it in my region. |
same here. Without vpn cant play it |
thats not true,
i bought an ru key on cddiski for 17 euro, used ukrainian vpn to activate and start the download on steam, then disconnected from vpn and continued downloading normally, can start the game straight from steam and play online without any problems.
playing from germany btw, so i dont belong to that region.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 21:32 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | What a HUGE HUGE letdown this game is.
DS1, while a poor port from the consoles, was infinitely better than this pile of console crap.
The graphics. I can see why they're locked to 60fps, otherwise they could probably reach 200+ on most modern systems. Please feel free to point out to me if I am largely mistaken, but I see nothing particularly GOOD about them. I mean sure, they show your repeated and inevitable demise well enough, but I'm not seeing anything that would make me go 'Ohh that's good' - unlike those wonderful 'alpha' versions we saw.
Only reason I can think of is so the new Uber-consoles could show this in 60fps happyvision - no need to worry if the PC can handle it; if it's good enough for conderps, its good enough for PC elitists...
But besides the graphics... it's just such a totally un-fun bitch to play. Maybe it's just me, but I don't really find 2-hit deaths much fun. And I'm talking about the very first 'proper' combat, against those large knight-things... I felt quite the accomplishment when I eventually killed the first one - only to be met by another with a huge mace. Then another. And another 3. And another 2.
Eventually I just thought 'Fuck this', after my (ugly) redhaired knight turned into a Thriller reject. Even after using the effergies, combat was clunky, hopelessly unresponsive, and well, not fun. And when I finally managed to flee into another building... then there was some Dragon Knight - with an even bigger weapon swung around like it was made from balsa wood. And I died. And found myself having to do the WHOLE THING AGAIN.
I turned it off at this point.
Now, please, don't get me wrong. I love a game with challenge. Games that make you think, how to figure out a tough opponent, pulling it off and feeling that sweet sense of accomplishment are few and far between in this world.
For me, DS2 is not one of those games.
It's almost as if the developers wondered how they could make a game such as DS1 MORE challenging... but more 'up to date'.
In my experience, I think i've only ever played one other game with as much frustration and disappointment in the game and graphics.
That game was E.T on the Atari... |
I mostly agree (graphics seems fine to me with durante tweaks), it is so easy to die in this game and penalty for dying is huge as well.
It is already hard enough not to die but your weapons also degrade very quickly and when that happens if you are in the middle of a very dangerous section (quite probably you will) without a safe passage back to nearest bonfire you're done for. I know there is a bone that can take you to the last bonfire but it is not an unlimited item so not that useful.
Even that forest section gets pretty hard after it's initial section and navigation there is especially tricky with game's jumping being so clunky. I don't remember how many times I died by falling.
In summary like he said this game is ridiculously hard, I am not sure I'll be able to continue playing it without a trainer that makes human effigies unlimited which essentially removes some of the death penalty.
Any pointers to make this beginning section easier will be appreciated and yes I am not playing this hitting like crazy without thinking, clearly that doesn't work 
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 21:37 Post subject: |
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| Kaltern wrote: | What a HUGE HUGE letdown this game is.
DS1, while a poor port from the consoles, was infinitely better than this pile of console crap.
The graphics. I can see why they're locked to 60fps, otherwise they could probably reach 200+ on most modern systems. Please feel free to point out to me if I am largely mistaken, but I see nothing particularly GOOD about them. I mean sure, they show your repeated and inevitable demise well enough, but I'm not seeing anything that would make me go 'Ohh that's good' - unlike those wonderful 'alpha' versions we saw.
Only reason I can think of is so the new Uber-consoles could show this in 60fps happyvision - no need to worry if the PC can handle it; if it's good enough for conderps, its good enough for PC elitists...
But besides the graphics... it's just such a totally un-fun bitch to play. Maybe it's just me, but I don't really find 2-hit deaths much fun. And I'm talking about the very first 'proper' combat, against those large knight-things... I felt quite the accomplishment when I eventually killed the first one - only to be met by another with a huge mace. Then another. And another 3. And another 2.
Eventually I just thought 'Fuck this', after my (ugly) redhaired knight turned into a Thriller reject. Even after using the effergies, combat was clunky, hopelessly unresponsive, and well, not fun. And when I finally managed to flee into another building... then there was some Dragon Knight - with an even bigger weapon swung around like it was made from balsa wood. And I died. And found myself having to do the WHOLE THING AGAIN.
I turned it off at this point.
Now, please, don't get me wrong. I love a game with challenge. Games that make you think, how to figure out a tough opponent, pulling it off and feeling that sweet sense of accomplishment are few and far between in this world.
For me, DS2 is not one of those games.
It's almost as if the developers wondered how they could make a game such as DS1 MORE challenging... but more 'up to date'.
In my experience, I think i've only ever played one other game with as much frustration and disappointment in the game and graphics.
That game was E.T on the Atari... |
tldr: waaah game is too hard waaaah.
You want better graphics? Downsample from 7560 rez and tell me it looks like shit. In fact, post a pic so I can laugh in your face.
The game is based around tactics, don't say it's not. Have you tried playing with a controller? Combat is fluid as shit.
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 21:47 Post subject: |
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| The_Zeel wrote: | | Shumy wrote: | | Pey wrote: | | Dont buy the russian key, it´s not region free. I bought it and activated it via vpn, but now I cant install it in my region. |
same here. Without vpn cant play it |
thats not true,
i bought an ru key on cddiski for 17 euro, used ukrainian vpn to activate and start the download on steam, then disconnected from vpn and continued downloading normally, can start the game straight from steam and play online without any problems.
playing from germany btw, so i dont belong to that region. |
i bought from here gk4.so maybe is not a ru key. But is written ru
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 22:16 Post subject: |
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zoom on tits
3080, ps5, lg oled
Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
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Pey
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 22:42 Post subject: |
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did you start the download while still in the vpn?
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 22:47 Post subject: |
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| D3lit3 wrote: | tldr: waaah game is too hard waaaah.
You want better graphics? Downsample from 7560 rez and tell me it looks like shit. In fact, post a pic so I can laugh in your face.
The game is based around tactics, don't say it's not. Have you tried playing with a controller? Combat is fluid as shit. |
What an idiotic response... just go away...
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 22:53 Post subject: |
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thats sucks pey  ask for a refund?
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| Posted: Fri, 25th Apr 2014 23:23 Post subject: |
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| Pey wrote: | | Dont buy the russian key, it´s not region free. I bought it and activated it via vpn, but now I cant install it in my region. |
Both the tv and projector are hdmi into receiver then out. I'm using nvid 680 gpu.
Anyway I also laugh at retarded holdouts on games like this who refuse to just get a god damn controller. I mean jesus already cheap bastards.
ALso agree with the weapon decay and needing repair is bullshit. I bought an item and 10 minutes later if that it was already telling me it was ready to break, WTF. But I did wonder off into the area that was harder and wasn't really meant for first fight, so off to the garden place or whatever its called try my luck.
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), that's when I rolled back to safety and waited for the combo to start over.
