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JBeckman
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prudislav
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 13:07 Post subject: |
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People still bitching about KB controls? Get a god damn 360 pad and enough of that childish elitist nonsense.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 13:08 Post subject: |
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| dannofdawn wrote: | | In DSI, you parry right when you are hit. Not when their animation starts . |
In DS1, you *can* parry as soon as the attack animation starts, so that's after the start up; i.e. for most of the skeletons they raise their sword above their head first and as soon as they're done with that and start moving it back down to hit you, you can parry.
Here's a good example of what I mean:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=1hrh94Dc-h0#t=300
First parry he does quite late, second parry he hits the button right after the incoming attack starts 
| Quote: | | The attack will hit you in 20 frames. Your weapon has a parry start up time of 10 frames. So when the attack is 10 frames into the attack, that's when you parry. Because by the time it hits you, your parry just finished the start up frames and will be entering recovery frames after the "hit" window is over. That transition between start up and recovery is the parry window for your weapon / shield. Something like a buckler will have a bigger window, which might mean it overlaps with start up and recovery? I'm not sure about that. |
I know all this 
The point is that the window is much shorter than in DS1, you can only successfully parry an attack during the last few frames when it's just about to hit you, whereas in DS1 like I said and shown in the video above, the timing is a bit looser and less dependent on what you're parrying *with*. It looks better and it certainly is more realistic than in DS1 (again, see video above for the nonsense  ), but then they should've also taken out the ridiculous "pretty" parry animation for some weapons, which a real fighter would never do.
It's just very annoying to do with a scimitar or something similar. They have (in comparison) very long startups compared to a shield and I'm guessing, the parrying dagger.
And yeah, I'm sure they did it for PvP. |
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 13:11 Post subject: |
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i like the design choice though, it forces you to learn the timings for every weapon in the game inside out, making successful parrying a true masterclass instead of something everyone could do with a bit of practice.
definitely gonna make pvp more interesting.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 13:38 Post subject: |
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At bonfire? Attune spells and then the usual button for unequip.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 13:50 Post subject: |
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prudislav
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 13:58 Post subject: |
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desellect spells using backspace and use E to romeove the spell
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:01 Post subject: |
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| The_Zeel wrote: | | controls are perfect on pad and shitty on kb |
M<y thoughts on pad versus kb/mouse - if I wanted to use a controller then I would buy a console game...nuff said. After all, how many console users would switch to a kb/mouse if it made some of their Xbox PS4 games better?
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:11 Post subject: |
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| CompuGeek wrote: | | The_Zeel wrote: | | controls are perfect on pad and shitty on kb |
M<y thoughts on pad versus kb/mouse - if I wanted to use a controller then I would buy a console game...nuff said. After all, how many console users would switch to a kb/mouse if it made some of their Xbox PS4 games better? |
we ve had gamepads and joysticks on pc and amiga since the beginning, i dont understand why nowadays people shun controllers so much and create all of this stupid drama.
back in the 90s i used kb+mouse for most pc games, but gamepad for fighting and racing games and my logitech wingman stick for space and flight simulators.
the beauty of the pc is being able to use pretty much everything.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:14 Post subject: |
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Because this is not a game that should require a controller. "Diamond in the rough" bullshit should not fly with people but there you go "controls are perfect ... and shitty on kb". 
As long as durrpas excuse these, especially with lazy japcrap derpelors, things will never change. "We are lucky japan is making for PC" - no, not really, they can keep their crap to themselves and their garbage consoles.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:16 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:17 Post subject: |
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| Bob Barnsen wrote: | Getting no attention in other subforums?  |
Nothing better to do but advocate for shit games, I guess.  |
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:20 Post subject: |
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being one of the best rpg series in the last decade, even if i had to play it with a ddr mat, i would do so rather than play shit like dragon age 2 or mass effect 3, or whatever else tries to pass as an rpg nowadays, with kb+mouse.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:26 Post subject: |
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prudislav
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:31 Post subject: |
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 well I played DS1 on racing wheel (stopped playing when DS2 released , after beating Capra) pc:
so i dont have any problems to play DS2 on K+M after little scripting(AHK) |
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:32 Post subject: |
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How do I reset all key bindings to default?
Nevermind.. found it
1) Lenovo Legion 7 (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H, RTX 3080 16Gb, 32Gb DDR4, SSD 1TB +2TB
2) SFFPC (streaming via Moonlight+ Sunshine)
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:32 Post subject: |
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| The_Zeel wrote: | we ve had gamepads and joysticks on pc and amiga since the beginning, i dont understand why nowadays people shun controllers so much and create all of this stupid drama.
back in the 90s i used kb+mouse for most pc games, but gamepad for fighting and racing games and my logitech wingman stick for space and flight simulators.
the beauty of the pc is being able to use pretty much everything. |
I remember most C64 games needed a joystick/pad, it wouldn't let you use the keyboard like on the Speccy, mostly because early models didn't have a port for them, that was the 80s.
Still need to install this, it only arrived on Friday, need to clear some space first.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th May 2014 14:48 Post subject: |
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yea a girl beat o&s with the wheel.
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