Wolfenstein: New Order
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 16:40    Post subject:
Anyone experienced Blackscreen when starting the game (after the videos played)?

sabin1981 wrote:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
@KillerCrocker

It's a sequel to Wolfenstein 2009, not Wolf3D Smile


Is it? I thought it's the sequel to RtCW.


Which is inturn a sequel to RtCW Smile


I don't know what this Wolfenstein 2009 is, never heard of it Cool Face


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 16:40    Post subject:
Heh. I really enjoyed the 2009 Wolf and I'm *loving* The New Order Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 16:43    Post subject:
warriormax wrote:
So far I am liking the story even if its nothing special but I feel like I shouldn't pick Wyatt time line. Yes, his skill unlock comes in handy very often but as a char he seems like the wrong choice. But, we'll see.


Yeah even he said it by himself that it was a bad choice Laughing
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nforules




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 16:44    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
Anyone experienced Blackscreen when starting the game (after the videos played)?

sabin1981 wrote:
m3th0d2008 wrote:


Is it? I thought it's the sequel to RtCW.


Which is inturn a sequel to RtCW Smile


I don't know what this Wolfenstein 2009 is, never heard of it Cool Face


Yes I was until I updated to 14.4 catalyst.

But be aware for some of us (me) you will get BSOD eventually from 14.4. AMD is aware of this but they refus to respond to the problem when you send in a bug report. Big ass thread on their forums.

People with much worse specs are running this game without any lag. This is killing me. IF this was on origin I could get a refund but too late for that now.

It's not just the lag that's insane, the audio is really bad as well.
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ManMountain




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 16:46    Post subject:
A few hours into it, enjoying it so far. Fun to play the old Wolfenstein 3D game Smile
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m3th0d2008




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 16:50    Post subject:
nforules wrote:
Yes I was until I updated to 14.4 catalyst.

But be aware for some of us (me) you will get BSOD eventually from 14.4. AMD is aware of this but they refus to respond to the problem when you send in a bug report. Big ass thread on their forums.

People with much worse specs are running this game without any lag. This is killing me. IF this was on origin I could get a refund but too late for that now.

It's not just the lag that's insane, the audio is really bad as well.


Ah, thank you, I expected as much. Thing is, since I only have a plebian internet connection, I asked a buddy of mine with Giganaire connection to download it for me. He's on an AMD card and thinks that the version he downloaded is broken. But I suspected it's more of an compatibility issue.

Luckily (dunno if actually lucky lol) I'm on NVidia Very Happy

Gonna drive over to him soon, doin some "almost" oldschool piracy. External HDD ftw, feels gud men.


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 16:53    Post subject:
GAIZ! I was joking with the Wolf3D one
Thought that was clear with the smiley.

Haven't found a reference to Hitler yet tho, unless it was just in one or two clippings that I maybe missed. I love the whole background story Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 16:55    Post subject:
Mild spoilers unrelated to the plot:


 Spoiler:
 


"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.

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PumpAction
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 17:01    Post subject:
I totally missed that this is out


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 17:01    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
@KillerCrocker

It's a sequel to Wolfenstein 2009, not Wolf3D Smile


I got curious and looked up the characters and events from the past games.


Unsure if there was a official response on how or if the games are connected but they kinda work as a trilogy following "Deathshead" and B.J although the alternate timeline thing is probably more canon or how to say.
(They probably aren't meant to be directly connected but Deathshead has been around since RtCW and in the prologue level to this game B.J does say he wants to settle a old score which might be a reference to Wolfenstein 2009.)

http://wolfenstein.wikia.com/wiki/Wilhelm_Strasse
(The last sentence has a spoiler for the end of this game.)
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Ricaspecada




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 17:16    Post subject:
GREAT game!! But... what's wrong with this picture?? Expecting a patch!! Very Happy

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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 17:19    Post subject:
nforules wrote:
This is one of the worst games i've played:

Horrendous loading times (ssd)
Terrible FPS
The sound is completly fucked on 7.1, weapon sounds are more like papercardboard (fear 2 anyone). Even on 5.1 downmixing the sound is off. Wasn't this suppose to have been fixed/patched earlier? I hate the fact I spent money on this game.

Here's my shitty pc:

i53570k 4.5Ghz
Radeon 7950 OC
8GB
SSD


Must be a problem on your side. loading times are fast, 15-20 secs or so and its not on ssd, fps fine, no slowdowns, 5.1 sound works fine, eventhough they messed up the soundmixing a bit, turn on subtitles to get all dialogs even in fights

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Stormwolf




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 17:23    Post subject:
Tried again today. Seems the additional settings option is the culprit. If i set it to anything but low i get purple flickers on peoples faces and such. It worked fine until the train and the alt tab for 30 minutes. This game sure has issues.
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 17:27    Post subject:
Ricaspecada wrote:
GREAT game!! But... what's wrong with this picture?? Expecting a patch!! Very Happy



right lamp isnt plugged in, is this physx? Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 17:28    Post subject:
I've just banged Anya on the table. She had her panties down on her left leg while we were shagging Very Happy

I like this game! Laughing


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nforules




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 17:28    Post subject:
m3th0d2008 wrote:
nforules wrote:
Yes I was until I updated to 14.4 catalyst.

But be aware for some of us (me) you will get BSOD eventually from 14.4. AMD is aware of this but they refus to respond to the problem when you send in a bug report. Big ass thread on their forums.

People with much worse specs are running this game without any lag. This is killing me. IF this was on origin I could get a refund but too late for that now.

It's not just the lag that's insane, the audio is really bad as well.


Ah, thank you, I expected as much. Thing is, since I only have a plebian internet connection, I asked a buddy of mine with Giganaire connection to download it for me. He's on an AMD card and thinks that the version he downloaded is broken. But I suspected it's more of an compatibility issue.

Luckily (dunno if actually lucky lol) I'm on NVidia Very Happy

Gonna drive over to him soon, doin some "almost" oldschool piracy. External HDD ftw, feels gud men.


Yeah while NVIDIA is usually more expensive they also work Smile
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nforules




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 17:33    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
nforules wrote:
This is one of the worst games i've played:

Horrendous loading times (ssd)
Terrible FPS
The sound is completly fucked on 7.1, weapon sounds are more like papercardboard (fear 2 anyone). Even on 5.1 downmixing the sound is off. Wasn't this suppose to have been fixed/patched earlier? I hate the fact I spent money on this game.

Here's my shitty pc:

i53570k 4.5Ghz
Radeon 7950 OC
8GB
SSD


Must be a problem on your side. loading times are fast, 15-20 secs or so and its not on ssd, fps fine, no slowdowns, 5.1 sound works fine, eventhough they messed up the soundmixing a bit, turn on subtitles to get all dialogs even in fights

xeon 1230v3, gtx770, 8gb ram


I have a question for you. If this is the only game i'm having issues with, and look tons of people in this forum+bethseda+reddit what does that tell you?

If 5.1 sounds just fine, then please find me any youtube video (stereo, doesn't matter) where weapon sounds gives a punch instead of sounding like cardboard cutouts. Sound is decoding from the game then to your audiocard. But since you claim 5.1 is working, you should have no issues showing me a video where weapon sounds actually works one more than 1 channel Smile
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Ricaspecada




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 17:34    Post subject:
The_Zeel wrote:
Ricaspecada wrote:
GREAT game!! But... what's wrong with this picture?? Expecting a patch!! Very Happy



right lamp isnt plugged in, is this physx? Laughing

PhysX or some weird voodoo nazi shit... Very Happy
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:01    Post subject:
PumpAction wrote:
I totally missed that this is out


You weren't missing much, but it at appears it's at least worth an iso demo try
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:03    Post subject:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Wolfenstein-The-New-Order-PC-257248/Specials/Wolfenstein-The-New-Order-Test-Benchmark-1121737/

PCGamesHardware.de performance test, seems that for the AMD 6000 series and the Nvidia 500 series when you increase the VT Cache setting (To high, since from what I have read ultra requires more than 2 GB VRAM or it's not available.) it takes all the available VRAM thus crippling performance.

Also looks like AMD indeed has some problems (Well it's OpenGL, on a Nvidia optimized engine and Nvidia supported game so yeah.) overcome only by the speed (And VRAM increase?) of the 290(x) models compared to the 280 losing to several Nvidia GPU's, maybe drivers can help with that.


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Mister_s




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:05    Post subject:
Does this game do anything different/better than the average shooter (cool weapons? Story? Awesome chars?). I usually don't like simple shooters. 40gigs is just too much to give it a go Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:06    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Does this game do anything different/better than the average shooter (cool weapons? Story? Awesome chars?). I usually don't like simple shooters. 40gigs is just too much to give it a go Sad


I must preface this with a lot of IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO IMO before the derps whine at me for daring to have subjective tastes, but here it is; Weapons are largely generic, story is great, characters are believable, pacing is fun, maps are fairly large and the gunplay is fantastic.


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:06    Post subject:
A little bit more involving story (Than Wolfenstein 3D ), no real QTE's other than if you get grabbed (Some events require you to be quick however.) and the shooting is solid though the gore could be better.
(Limbs explode if you hit them - like bodies gibbing in Doom 3 - instead of properly dismembering and bullet damage is just a on/off bloodied/worn pain skin on humanoid enemies ala Quake 2, heh.)


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4treyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:07    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
(cool weapons? Story? Awesome chars?)


I understand the last 2 ones are a yes, and probably the real strengths of the game among a bunch of weaknesses. I'm not sure about the first one though.
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:10    Post subject:
You have a pistol, rifle, shotgun (The early model of that looks awesome.) and a knife with some special weapons appearing on occasion like mounted hmg's you can carry around (Though that limits ammo, as usual.) or say precision rifles and laser based energy guns.

Nothing too awesome but you can select firing mode though usually just semi and auto and such plus there's silencers for the pistol and most common guns can be dual wielded.
(Which I've found useless really, easier to use aiming and shot them in the head.)
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:22    Post subject:
Mild story spoiler:

 Spoiler:
 


I'm digging the game so far, the gunplay is fun and the story isn't too bad, there are some funny moments.


"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.

Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:28    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Weapons are largely generic, story is great, characters are believable, pacing is fun, maps are fairly large and the gunplay is fantastic.


what he said! Wink


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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:29    Post subject:
Enjoying the game so far, but guys, is it normal that the textures always look extremely compressed, even on max settings and with VT compression disabled? It's not even the "usual" texture compression like in other games, where the textures are actually low res, here they look like high res textures to which a bad jpeg compression has been applied, ie: snow effect and macroblocking everywhere.

Is it normal?
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:31    Post subject:
I didn't notice an obvious distinction between medium and high for VT Cache size.
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PostPosted: Wed, 21st May 2014 18:33    Post subject:
The_Leaf wrote:
Enjoying the game so far, but guys, is it normal that the textures always look extremely compressed, even on max settings and with VT compression disabled? It's not even the "usual" texture compression like in other games, where the textures are actually low res, here they look like high res textures to which a bad jpeg compression has been applied, ie: snow effect and macroblocking everywhere.

Is it normal?


Megatexture in theory (From what I know.) allows for varied and very advanced streaming of textures with a much larger resolution but it is also compressed heavily and takes a LOT of space to utilize (And creating such textures is apparently very difficult or cumbersome.), Rage source data was around 1 TB I believe and to make a larger visual difference a update to the textures would have been around a 100 GB from what I remember, thus why they added the artificial sharpening and noise filter instead via a later patch.
(Which is in this game as well but with more subtle settings so it's not so jarring when textures are seen up close.)


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