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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 00:06 Post subject: |
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Honestly, I think that the graphical downgrade is the least of the problems here (since the game still looks decent, despite the lack of additional post-processing effects, more simplified lighting sources, lack of POM and the likes).
Gameplay-wise on the other hand, it feels like the game has been botched pretty badly, with features underdeveloped (some cut perhaps?) and generally a sense of "I would if I could, but I can't so I shan't"
I've only completed 6-7 missions so far, because I can't stand the omnipresent auto-aiming, and I've not been impressed. Still an okay time-waster for what it's worth (and I have a soft spot for open world games), but nothing more sadly.
Fortunately I had low expectations to begin with, being Ubi and all, so no surprises. Not getting hyped about AAA games these days is indeed my medicine. 
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 00:21 Post subject: |
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I can't get into this game at all, I love open world games but there is nothing compelling that's drawing me in to it. Everything just feel really mediocre and a world apart from what I was expecting.
I gotta say the marketing team are genius because I honestly thought this game was gonna be a 90%-95% scoring game but imo it's more like 70%.
/to the recycle bin
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 00:25 Post subject: |
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| prudislav wrote: | | Interinactive wrote: | | Apparently the budget was 68 million before the delay. Not exactly an indie title. |
compared to 256 million of GTA 5  |
That 68 million doesn't include marketing. GTA 5's 256 million does.
CoD games get $300m+ budgets  |
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Kaltern
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 01:10 Post subject: |
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This game to me sows that quality AAA titles are a thing of the past. In the last 3 years, discounting the good indie titles, would someone please tell me of a game that 100% lived up to hype and expectations, as I cannot think of any at all; even Bioshock Infinite, for all it did right, was still (IMO) not as good as it could/should have been.
I'm so depressed right now. Excuse me.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 01:21 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 01:42 Post subject: |
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Jesus... far be it from me to say that reviewers are bought ( ) but.. are these bought?  So many user reviews that are hugely negative and/or lukewarm at best, and yet every major review site is raving about it and throwing out 8s and 9s. Something definitely feels very strange here.
| Asgarion wrote: | | Just got the activation mail from Ubi, the 5 euro preorder bug worked again. WD might not be the next step in open world evolution, but I'm sure I can get 5 euros worth of fun out of it |
but... but... Kein laughed at everyone and said Ubi would cancel the orders! But...!
| Interinactive wrote: | Do the new nVidia drivers fix SLI?
Has there been a patch for the game itself yet? |
What fix was needed? I tried the leak (for all of 30 mins) and the SLi scaling was magnificent, 90+ across both cards -- and that was on the leaked beta 337.81 drivers too.
| Moshi wrote: | | http://youtu.be/L_A6Z3gkXlk |
but...but... MorinDerpa said there was no downgrade! He said!! He told everyone that the game looks BETTER now than it did two years ago! Why would he lie!? That video is faked, it's from the PS3 version isn't it? 
Ah well, I have my Uplay key and season pass, so I'll just play and forget it. Shitty weekend, only just got back in a couple hours ago, so I'll play tomorrow sometime. Seems like a massive disappointment all round though, which is a shame 
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 01:47 Post subject: |
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Spot the difference
I have a good mind to start my own review site. One of two things will happen:
a) I will remain steadfast in my unbreakable resolve to 'tell it like it really is'
or
b) I'll write a couple of critical reviews, get a few emails from EA and Ubi, and retire rich and corrupt
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 02:11 Post subject: |
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Sounds quite fair from what I've seen so far. Not a disaster, but underwhelming, yes.
The PC version with its broken mouse controls and psycho performance all over the place doesn't make things any better.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 02:11 Post subject: |
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Actually, most of those review scores and the overall average seem about right (except for the few dellusional 90/100 ones). This game surely isn't the 90+ groundbreaking game that Ubisoft has been trying to sell ever since E3 2012, far from it. But it's not a mediocre-sounding 70/100 title either. Watch_Dogs is certainly better than many 70-75 games out there. People just want to give it 7, 6 and 5 out of 10 out of spite that the game didn't satisfy their unjustified wild dreams.
Now, that doesn't mean that many of those sites aren't hypocritical though, cause a game like Arkham Origins isn't a 74/100 title either, especially considering the justification most reviewers gave to that score is that it was "more of the same", clearly referring to its predecessor Arkham City. Yeah, more of the same awesomeness, in some cases even slightly improved awesomeness (combat system), and they give it like 20 pts less in average? Well, Watch Dogs is also "more of the same" in the vein of GTA-clone style of games, but it's a formula that works very well and that provides a shitload of content (regardless of its gameplay value in this particular case) and countless hours of free roaming a very well designed world (city). Nothing more and nothing less.
So, 80/10? Sounds fair to me A bit below the score I personally gave to a very similar game (go see, from the same dev) both in unused potential and relative level of disappointment, none other than Far Cry 3. Both could have been magnificent games and obtain the glory, but ended up being just solid, good games.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 02:23 Post subject: |
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I couldn't try the game yet (I'm about to get a PS3 version) but most of the crap talk is false (IMO). I had GTA V for PS3 and it was not such a great game, at least to my expectations (they were not high). I've got GTA V 0-day and tried it right away and played it for 2 months (ofcourse not every day and every minute, had a lot of pauses) and all I can tell is this:
My first week was pretty intense (maybe 4 hours a day?), spent all of my free-time playing the game, messing around with NPCs, blowing up stuff, doing missions, scouting the map, etc. The story was okay, but nothing huge in my opinion, got bored of SP after a few days. I was saying "Oh come on, Rockstar was saving the HUGE stuff for the Online". I was wrong, never so wrong. I have played all the multiplayers of GTA since Vice City, and all I can say is that the fifth's online was the WORST. The so much promised heists were delayed SO MUCH, I got simply BORED and ANNOYED. I've sold the game for almost half of the price, since it was not fun anymore. Yep, I've tried it with friends, and some NFOHumpers too.
All of you say that GTA has more activities. OK: tennis was fun for like 4 games, then everybody realized it's bugged as fuck. Arm-Wrestling was annoying from the start. Bowling was fun, but come on, if I had wanted a bowling game, I would have gone for that. All the singleplayer and multiplayer missions were REPETITIVE. Rockstar was more busy with fixing mission-farming glitches than online content itself.
Summary:
GTA V was not a BAD game, it was a GOOD (normal) game which is enjoyable. Simply our expectations grew higher in the years and we simply can't value games anymore, since the misleading marketing sets our expectations too damn high. In my opinion (it may change throughout the time) this game can't be that bad like some of you say. Graphics were never important for me and I think it's quite nice that we have an open-world game like this. And I think the multiplayer can bring a lot of entertainment into this game. I mean... Come on guys, who says it's not exciting when you are roaming in the city and you experience something "bit off", and realize there is a player chasing you or hacking you. It's unexpected, can bring a lot of outcomes and IMO it's much more entertaining than GTA Online.
Seriously guys, please just try to enjoy the game.
This is a general opinion of mine, since there are lot of sequels and games where the expectations are simply too high - most of the time it's because the marketing - but it doesn't mean that the game is not enjoyable.
Have fun guys and have a good day.
edit: wow, I just read that only next-gen consoles feature a few online game modes. I think I will pass on this one...
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 02:55 Post subject: |
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What the hell is mediocre about 7? Even 6.5 isn't mediocre.
After playing through the game, I'd give it about a 7, not bad or mediocre, but not great either, I'd say 'acceptable'.
But honestly, after such a long development cycle, a team of veteran developers and ample resources, 'acceptable' is a letdown.
Edit: Unrelated to Watch_Dogs, but I found it funny
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"I think Call of Duty resonates because it's believable and relatable," Sledgehammer Games cofounder Michael Condrey says.
Believable and relatable...Yep, sounds like Call of Duty
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 03:31 Post subject: |
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What is the name of the outfit that has an hat instead of a cap ? Is that some DLC/Pre order stuff or is it a regular outfit you can buy at some point * Because i want it but don't see it at the clothes store.
I'm in Act II
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 04:13 Post subject: |
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Probably the Untouchables one? Just taking a guess, and that one is part of the pre-order I think.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 04:31 Post subject: |
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| 4treyu wrote: | | Probably the Untouchables one? Just taking a guess, and that one is part of the pre-order I think. |
It's the one that was in JBeckman screenshots a couple pages back
Edit : Yes its the untouchables one.
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 06:57 Post subject: |
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For me it's a 5, everything it does is mediocre and a lot of the time I play I feel bored. You are even restricted from the messing about that you can usually do in a open world game.
Ah well, glad I got it cheap 
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| Posted: Wed, 28th May 2014 07:40 Post subject: |
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| Przepraszam wrote: | | My poor 660TI can't handle High@2560x1440 |
Works fine on 1080p  http://imgur.com/a/1o9Ds
Those are all high, temporal SMAA, HBAO without the +, no motion blur.
The game really likes memory, sucking up more than BF4. 1st session was halted as I ran out of memory, so windows just force closed watch dogs Had to close browser (650megs) to continue, seems to be enough now (only got 100megs SSD swap).
Haven't played much yet, but so far looks good and runs smooth. The 4770k recommended is It's using like 40% of my CPU max, even less than BF4. Both games claimed to be 8 threaded, but both are 4 threaded.
Driving seemed a bit silly with the Mitsubishi Lancer, spinning wheel as soon as you touch accelerator, it's a frikken 4WD And I still hate driving with WASD, but that's how it was on GTA:s as well. Should try next with pad as the mouse controls are iffy too and haven't yet started shooting, so no need for aiming.
But happily payed the 1euro for this, if not anything else, full speed download for the 14gigs.
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and the game still runs like utter shit for me. Constant stuttering.
