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nightlith
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huh? they actually have a 200X? Bear in mind by 'XX' I meant 00-99 as in any future flight sims. And for what it's worth, the cockpits in Century of Flight did not suck.
i can has computar?!
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TheNerd
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Oct 2005 16:44 Post subject: |
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| nightlith wrote: | | huh? they actually have a 200X? Bear in mind by 'XX' I meant 00-99 as in any future flight sims. And for what it's worth, the cockpits in Century of Flight did not suck. |
I think they did.
they allways look the same, take lomac for instance...the cocpits are so realistic and nice,even though the buttons arent clickable.
MS 3D Cocpits looks ok...
anyhow,with or without cockpits im sure that X3 will be awesom... waiting for it impatiently...
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TheNerd
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Baleur
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Oct 2005 18:04 Post subject: |
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"In the TVG Interview I jyst read they said, "... and we have a LOT more than 70 ships...""
quote from the egosoft forums
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Oct 2005 19:51 Post subject: |
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That is one sweet screenie
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Oct 2005 23:22 Post subject: |
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Looks good, but how userfriendly is the interface? That's what turned me off X2, the interface. It was absolutely horrid.
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Baleur
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nightlith
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2005 03:57 Post subject: |
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| TheNerd wrote: |
I think they did.
they allways look the same, take lomac for instance...the cocpits are so realistic and nice,even though the buttons arent clickable.
MS 3D Cocpits looks ok...
anyhow,with or without cockpits im sure that X3 will be awesom... waiting for it impatiently... |
LOL! Jeezus you're fighting on like 3 different fronts here...alot fo our discussion is moot really, but to continue:
Non Clickable cockpits are waste of time and money. I want to interact with everything I can just like I was flying the plane in real life. I mean...holy shit it's a sim right? You know, Simulated Environment? Sure they may look better, but if I can't adjust my fuel mix by hitting a toggle switch on my dash...POS.
MS 3D cockpits look ok...alright so now you've broken our discussion up even further. 2D vs 3D, aesthetics, and potentially MS vs anyone else...heh  Again, all of this is moot, but I do appreciate you comprimising on "they look ok" from your original "it all crap"  I could have sworn all the cockpits in Century of Flight were 3d...
Finally, I can agree that the game will still most likely be awesome. I am just really displeased with the decision, and alot of my gusto over the game was based on the assumtion that we'd (finally) get interactive, authentic cockpits for our spacecraft. It's fun to pretend my keyboard is an LCARS panel, but to actually see it on screen and interact with it on screen add a huge sense of immersion for me, and in my eyes makes a game far more enjoyable. But hey, I'm a complete ubergeek who would love to actually live and fly an interstellar space ship in real life without requiring selling of my soul to NASA.
Anycase, getting back to my original point. Decision is crap, I'm alittle less gung-ho, game will still be played by me, and it still looks good. Capisce?
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javlar
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2005 13:14 Post subject: |
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| Baleur wrote: | Thats the main thing they have been promoting besides the graphics, that the UI is supposed to be aaalot easier and better, with mouse support (WOW mouse support  ) |
Thats all i needed to hear to be honest. I couldnt care less about cockpits, sure they are nice and i would never play a flightsim without a cockpit but since spacesims arent possibly realistic in any way what so ever (since we have hardly been to space) i dont care about the cockpits.
A UI with mousesupport will make X3 alot more accessible than X2 ever was.
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Baleur
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2005 14:41 Post subject: |
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Hardly been to space?? Jeebus chriibus holy macarony!! The thing thats not realistic is the flight physics themselves, but that could be "realistic" in the future as well by automated minithrusters.
But yeah i know what you mean, we all know how airplane cockpits look and are supposed to look, while there havent existed any Human race space-fighter cockpits yet
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2005 22:38 Post subject: |
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Newtonian pysics FTW. I wish more games would use it, makes for some interesting manuevers in combat, and of course gives you a real feel for space when your playing.
Always got Iwar2, I got stuck on one of the missions (f'in hard game) and gave up, but all this space talk makes me want to go play it again.
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2005 23:09 Post subject: |
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I hope more spacesims uses the intertia physics models, which was used in I-War and I-war2. X2 did not use this, which was hugely disappointing for me. Controlling a ship in space in I-War was immersive because of the physics and you could do all kinds of cool maneuvers, while in X2 it felt like dragging a carpet across the floor.
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 13:01 Post subject: |
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Sadly after reading the official forum there are several things that people are bitching about:
- No cockpits anymore. The views out of your ship will have no cockpit graphics anymore. All ships will have the same HUD now.
- No docking to stations. You trade by "beaming" wares into your ship.
- No docking to your own factories. You just get a popup window where you can choose/select things.
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 13:04 Post subject: |
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jOnTe
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 16:17 Post subject: |
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I think it should be soo cool to learn docking manuel instead of auto docking. Its sad that noone will please me;P
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Baleur
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 16:43 Post subject: |
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| jOnTe wrote: | | I think it should be soo cool to learn docking manuel instead of auto docking. Its sad that noone will please me;P |
u never played x2?
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 17:40 Post subject: |
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| grues0me wrote: | Sadly after reading the official forum there are several things that people are bitching about:
- No cockpits anymore. The views out of your ship will have no cockpit graphics anymore. All ships will have the same HUD now.
- No docking to stations. You trade by "beaming" wares into your ship.
- No docking to your own factories. You just get a popup window where you can choose/select things. |
Hmm, not really concerned about the lack of cockpits. to be honest i didn't really like them in x2. i found they got in the way to me.
Docking, well i just found that tedious and actually started to detract from the game.
anyway even with these changes im still going to play this game.
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 21:35 Post subject: |
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protection probably starforce 3 becausz editor is enlight and the latest's enlight game are starforce 3 protected !
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Baleur
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thyttel
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 22:11 Post subject: |
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official forums say starforce.....
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 22:18 Post subject: |
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X2 was starforce protected but only euro version. US version was securom.
Maybe it will be the same here and people were canceling their preorders because of starforce rummor.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 22:19 Post subject: |
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| Baleur wrote: | | So starforce or not? I can only afford one game this month, either its UFO Aftermath or this, depending on if this one has starforce or not |
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 22:45 Post subject: |
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hope this game will be released tonight or tomorow at most, for me it's the game of the year along with Black & White 2 and F.E.A.R., but for Space Sim lover's it's indeed the game of the decade!
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 23:22 Post subject: |
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Black and white 2 as game of the year? HARRDDDLLLYY.
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Ronhrin
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| Posted: Mon, 24th Oct 2005 00:33 Post subject: |
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well, I liked it, prefer Black & White 2 than Age of Empires 3, but that's only my opinion, but regarding X3, I believe is widely accepted that is one of the greatest Space Sims ever, Followed by X2
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