Sound tip.
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mwamwa6




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 17:24    Post subject: Sound tip.
Was messing about with my home cinema system and decided to hook up my active subwoofer to my PC for a laugh. The effect is amazing, FPS games benefit the most, you can actually feel gunshots. Sound is definately an easily overlooked dimension, and I thoroughly recommend anyone with the chance who isn't already to try using a proper sound system.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 17:38    Post subject:
there´s a hardware section on this forum for this !


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 17:44    Post subject: ...
Sorry Embarassed

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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 17:55    Post subject:
I place my subwoofer on my lap whilst playing omaha beach if that counts Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 18:20    Post subject:
lol @ mwamwa6, of course! i cant play games without my 5.1 system anymore, especially a proper subwoofer, its just as essential as a good 3d card in my opinion!
Example: Volcano in Black & White 2, without bass, its just like hearing skidmarks reproducing.
Any FPS: gunshots and explosions, super!
BUT!!! Remember not to OVERDO the bass volume, a rule i have when setting up sound systems, is that you should have a bass strong enugh to make your stomach feel it when you run a subwoofer excursion test file, and yet be able to have window-shattering (i dont know the english word for the opposite of bass, high-pitch?) with celine dion - the power of love. WHILE having the bass.

Any bass that is so deep that it swallows the rest of the sound spectrum is a bad bass, a bass that is just enugh deep as possible while still keeping crystalclear celine dion madness, is a great bass!


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 18:42    Post subject:
which Hercules are those baleur?

I've got the entry level ones (XP510 or something, had them for 3years-ish, so cant really remember the model name/number) and they are really good.

I totally agree that sound is incredibly underrated. But fiddiling around with sound cards & driver settings can get pretty damn annoying (I have two sound cards, an onboard Sound storm and an Audigy 1 and they sound and act completley different, not to mention the hassle of getting proper 5.1 music Wink).
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mwamwa6




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 18:49    Post subject:
Definately agree with you with about balance for music systems, but for games and movies I prefer over the top bass Smile.

Sorry for off topic comment again but thinking about experimenting with a good quality HIFI dac to sit between the PC/Media Player and external Amp. I'm interested in finding out if you can achieve HIFI level quality with high bitrate mp3s.

Cheers,

Matt.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 19:37    Post subject:
Yeah i think those are the ones i have, the black square speakers, i know there is a newer set out which is like silver oval things for $300 Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 20:16    Post subject:
i have known that for years now. Try hooking up a 4x12" guitar box with a decent amp as your subwoofer. Always got complaints from the neighbours though. A 2x15" Bass-Box also fucks up the neighbours nicely Very Happy

EDIT: am running a 5.1 logitech system for quite some time now
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WrineX




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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 20:54    Post subject:
why do people always use crappy sounding Logitech and creative subs instead of an good cinema sub like a REL or something, i dont think you hit the 20Hz with and logitech.
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 21:08    Post subject:
Because a REL, fucking awesome though they are, costs about twice the best G-Card available:)
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 23:11    Post subject:
Its usually not worth the hassle and money if you only play on your system. If you use your system also for watching DVDs and listening to music, i d rather go hifi instead of using pc-periphery components
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 23:22    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 23:24    Post subject:
Exactly, or why not buy them $50000 a pair speakers?
B&W Nautilus

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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 23:27    Post subject:
hahahaha, baleur, i want four of those too Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 18th Oct 2005 23:32    Post subject:
Hehe, awesome speakers. I'd have to work for a few hundred years to afford them.

My local HIFI dealer has a set rigged up to a £100,000 Naim system. Sounds like a live band:)
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2005 03:32    Post subject:
allright , i get your point , but a 200-300 euro for a sub or 40.000 eruo avalon speakers is a big differents. you can use a sub pretty good for both ht and pc because low noises are difficult to track back to the origen (or how the hell i spell the word Smile )

most people here game in there bedroom so why not combinate some good hifi monitor speakers and a nice sub for good music and gaming and if you're monitor(from computer) is big enough some movies to Smile in the end you saved money as well.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2005 19:35    Post subject:
Yeah Smile Whenever i will upgrade my sound system to something "proper", i'll plug it to the computer, since it aint just a computer for me, its my media center, music games movies whatever, everything is in this central hub Smile Aint 2005 great?


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2005 19:46    Post subject:
Wait til like 2025. We'll have those IP based digital speakers that can output sound 30x clearer than the best speakers available today.


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2005 20:13    Post subject:
Back in my BBS days i used to have 2 10 inch Blues with a 60 wat RMS sansui amp powed by a battery charger hooked to my old 486 dx33. PLaying a MOD on them was insaine becasue you could lower the tone of the sample with the player. I ended up killing my moniter , well not killing but its so was so blury after about a week that you couldnt read it.


Yea i couldnt live without a good sound system to play games.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Oct 2005 23:54    Post subject:
HEh sound is vary essential!
Having good sub since I like Dn'B but it sound better in my car 4x160w amp Very Happy

But I'll bet you wont recognize 256kbps and 512 kbps MP3

Bass = 50Hz - 60Hz (bout)
oposite is
Treble = 15kHz (bout)

(5k 20k are trebble) but if you are adjusting trebele and bass its at fruequenci 60Hz/15kHz


If you take my meaning
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2005 00:41    Post subject:
Phluxed wrote:
Wait til like 2025. We'll have those IP based digital speakers that can output sound 30x clearer than the best speakers available today.

Yeah sure ill wait 20 YEARS Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Oct 2005 00:48    Post subject:
i read about a speaker that is developed that only consists of thin seethrough foil, so that you could put it directly onto a monitor using it as a center speaker, or using two on it as stereo, so you can have even smaller systems. Or put it on a picture frame so you dont have speakers standing around. As far as i remember the biggest problem with it was the bass-frequencies, but i m still pretty hyped about the idea, and we might even see it surface in the next one to two years
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2005 00:41    Post subject: futuristic
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PostPosted: Sat, 22nd Oct 2005 15:20    Post subject:
LastRite wrote:
I place my subwoofer on my lap whilst playing omaha beach if that counts Wink


Thats what they all say Wink Wink.... I know your actaully putting it their so you can put your dick in the Subwoofers ported hole that air gets sucked and blowen out of Razz hehe

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