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Silent_Lurker




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jun 2014 18:03    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13951-Flight-Model-And-Input-Controls

Sounds really good.

Still waiting for TrackIR support though...


So, no one cares about controls ... Sad


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jun 2014 18:03    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
sabin, i still think you are making a bigger deal that it really is with those extra char slots.
extra characters slots -> personalized npc to use on your ship. same npc you can hire ingame. (without the posibility to change the apeareance.).


I'm really not. In fact, I'm not making a big enough deal about it. Charging people for character slots is despicable, not even the worst f2p game makes you pay for a SECOND slot. Fourth and fifth, sure, but second? This is just the beginning and seeing as how so many of you (yes even on here) defend this action, it shocks me as to what you're going to accept - and defend - next.

Silent_Lurker wrote:
So, no one cares about controls ... Sad


I don't. It was the one thing I was happy about right now and they're already changing it to cater to those that demand it.. that, the nonsense g-force (oh wow, if you YAW too hard you rip parts off your ship? amazomg!) and the constant push for PvP is just Sad
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frogster




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jun 2014 18:07    Post subject:
but those are not character slots.
character slots -> you have a mage, you want a warrior, you need pay to unlock that slot to be able to play a warrior. this is not the case.
what they ask to pay is for personalized npc for your ship, npc you can anyway get ingame.
i could understand that you are against the whole microtransaction shop, but this crap is in the same deal with personalized hat's or glasses.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jun 2014 19:06    Post subject:
Maybe you're right, but so far all I'm seeing is massive monetisation on a game that's not even out yet and I'm supposed to be happy and accepting.
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EternalBlueScreen




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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jun 2014 19:13    Post subject:
Yes. Everything seems directed at earning money. The fan-services with the weekly shows etc aren't really illuminating the game as much as they are just creating new questions and gets people to wonder how the fuck they're going to follow through on everything they've promised to jam into this title.
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PostPosted: Tue, 17th Jun 2014 22:09    Post subject:
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shole




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 03:37    Post subject:
I still haven't tried the arena because it turns out i have to buy it separately.
Everything is a fucking dlc.

There's also NO DETAILED RECEIPT of what my original pledge contained since I did it on the RSI web page to bypass kickstarter percentage for their benefit, and the original pledge webpage is offline.
I'm getting pretty fucking disillusioned with this bullshit.
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Tungsten




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 05:05    Post subject:
you don't have to buy it seperately, unless u pledged a miniscule mount at KS
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 10:43    Post subject:
@shole

Just look at your Hangar (not Chris Roberts Presents Chris Roberts' Hangar Simulator by Chris Roberts, look under My RSI > My Hangar on the website) and it will show what pledges you made and what addons are available for your account. As long as you have a game/ship package (such as the Digital Scout) that states "alpha/beta access" then you have access to Slideshow Fighting Module.
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Kaltern




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 13:14    Post subject:
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then you have access to Slideshow Fighting Module.


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TheSisko42




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 17:05    Post subject:
I could swear we had the same discussion about the private servers like 50 pages ago Very Happy

*warning random rambling*

The money.. well.. I am guessing they will burn through 20 mill a year, basically means they have to be done by 2016 ...

The p2w argument... Is everyone expecting to totally suck at this game or what? Stock aurora with missiles and a not braindead pilot should be able to win at minimum a 3v1 fight against standard pve vanduul at all times. Heck it might take a little longer to get the funds but I am sure there is a no risk low profit foodstuff route from earth to ganymed or something similar Very Happy

Every ship and equipment can be bought for ingame credits on the live servers. If you cant buy it, just steal it. Twisted Evil

The expected high costs for ships has to be paid only once! After that its just insurance. Okok, afaik their is a plan to have no insurance systems but it still basically means if you dont go balls deep into vanduul or pirate space you wont loose your ship. ( ah yes, afaik there will be equipment and cargo insurance too )

Character slots, well star wars galaxies only gave you one char per server ( jedis got a 2nd I know.. ), EVE kinda gives you only one aswell...
For the record, dont really like it, would love to have atleast a 2nd one but I still have hope to argue that later when they start testing the PU, atm I cant really guess what would be better from a gameplay perspective except that multiple chars would probably lessen the emotional impact of the death mechanic

I am pretty sure you can make as many chars as you want and play the SP campaign with them though. Last time I checked putting your char into the persitent universe wasnt automatic, you have to choose to do so

*narf*edit* 6 core 8 gigs 1.2 gigs 570 no ssd ( *sadpandaface* ) and its staying on medium above 30 fps, quite frankly I was happy that I didnt had to buy a new rig last week Very Happy
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highfe




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 18:07    Post subject:
Serious Question: What do you do, when you dont play the game for a few months and you got no ingame credits left to renew your insurance for your only ship like the constellation? besides buying credits with real money or risk losing your 275$ ship. Laughing
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barash




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 18:13    Post subject:
Afaik, the insurance-clock only runs when you're in-game.
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TheSisko42




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 18:16    Post subject:
highfe wrote:
Serious Question: What do you do, when you dont play the game for a few months and you got no ingame credits left to renew your insurance for your only ship like the constellation? besides buying credits with real money or risk losing your 275$ ship. Laughing


serious answer : the plan is to be able to work as a crewmate on bigger ships so you dont actually need to personally own any ship at all
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highfe




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 18:25    Post subject:
barash wrote:
Afaik, the insurance-clock only runs when you're in-game.


thanks.

Embarassed
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outtanames




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 21:55    Post subject:
Wtf is this game about? I went to his website, it looks like blizzard's website.. click here and there, suddenly I see these 'game packages' wtf .. 140$ Neutral
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 22:02    Post subject:
outtanames wrote:
Wtf is this game about? I went to his website, it looks like blizzard's website.. click here and there, suddenly I see these 'game packages' wtf .. 140$ Neutral


Oh that's nothing.

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/store/336-wing-commander


EDIT: Depending on which package you get (The ones I posted are a bit special.) you get various perks such as a higher class hangar for your ship, additional store credits (For various stuff like decorations for the hangar.) and of course your initial ship will also be determined by what package you acquire.

Actual game will likely be cheaper when it's released. Smile
(The lowest at the moment I think is 40 USD. - https://robertsspaceindustries.com/store/316-aurora-mr - access to the game plus the SP part which is Squadron 42 plus some small amount of store credit and a basic hangar along with that ship and also beta - but not alpha - access.)
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barash




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 22:10    Post subject:
outtanames wrote:
Wtf is this game about? I went to his website, it looks like blizzard's website.. click here and there, suddenly I see these 'game packages' wtf .. 140$ Neutral


Their kickstarter page has the basics

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen

and

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game

probably have some info as well, haven't read the last link though.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 22:12    Post subject:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13955-Arena-Commander-Patch-123

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New Features/Fixes

Arena Commander
Arena commander menu now accessible through options menu
Proper score awarded when an enemy is destroyed in Vanduul Swarm
All ballistic weapons now use ammo boxes
Frozen effect no longer appears for everyone after ejecting
Command pp_rebindKeys layout_joystick_spacesim now properly works
HOTAS X55 Joystick is diplayed under controller options menu
Run no longer toggled off when user interacts with something
Cockpit and ship should now despawn after ejecting
All ship controls now have smoother animations
X-box right joystick can now be inverted
Countermeasures should now be more effective
Hornet chaingun audio should no longer cut out
No longer stuck unable to respawn if chat open while killed
Spawn warping audio no longer heard by everyone in the match
Broadsword when equipped now has ammo and properly overheats
Ship debris can no longer pass through cockpit
Improvments to zero-g movement
Various performance improvements
Various server and client crash fixes
Switched spawn points so that players respawn next to their own bases in CTC
Match end after reaching over 100 points.
Helmet Animations
Various matchmaking tweaks (public matches were requesting private ones)
Reduced texture sizes on the 300i
Implement new win mechanic into Team Deathmatch. Fixed up next kill wins mode, audio and HUD alerts.
Item Balancing
Shield energy reallocation does not loose energy but realloc existing energy
Loading screen remains on screen after the level has loaded
Pausing the game as DFM loads from hangar sticks on a black screen
Added directional indication for shield impacts not in view (similar to an older verison of the shield) for gameplay feedback.
ReExported LandingGear_deploy animation
Player is able to enter ship while he is also able to ‘press X to respawn’. Ship now correctly rez’s out when landed after ejection.
Improved lighting but for real this time
If a Vanduul becomes sufficiently damaged they disappear from the map and their name in-game becomes “undefined”. Need to be destroyed to progress. Added missing return to fix.
Allow custom user CFGs to be specified in cmd line.
When one player ejects from their ship, the frozen visor FX may appear on all player’s screens.
After destroying another player their body will float in space in a t-pose.
MP Fix – Player is now hidden following a vehicle destruction death as in SP.
Hangar
Buggy can now drive properly in the Business Hangar
Turrets no longer mountable on missile racks hardpoints
Third person camera no longer rotates using Q and E
Replace me ball no longer present under Hornet Trainer
Improvements to Trainer Hornet rear landing gear geometry
No longer able to place 325a engine on other ships
Hornet Ghost engine no longer able to be equipped on other ships
Resolved issue of no ammo when chaingun removed and added back to ship
Fix for third person camera rotating when pressing Q or E when not in zero-g
Created basic mapping for Logitech G940. Fixed up a number of asserts it caused in the Joystick device handler.
The Logitech G940 completely changes if you install the correct drivers. Updated the mappings to work with those drivers rather than the default windows ones.
AC menu can be navigated using a gamepad
Known Issues:

HUD target indicator arrows can be missing
Graphical issues can occur while using SLI/Crossfire
It can be possible to sometimes load into a black screen when choosing an Arena Commander match
Hornet gatling guns take heat damage when not being fired
Hornet gatling gun ammo temporarily shown as missile racks in the Holo-Table


Huge patch fixing a bunch of issues.. no performance improvements though (why bother? it's running flawlessly for everyone apparently) and they finally acknowledge the broken SLi/Crossfire.
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frogster




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 23:20    Post subject:
lol, i'm still downloading from last week. granted, i was in vacation, but it was so long since i dint see a 100-300KB speed. spoiled with those 7-10 MB from steam and torrents.
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EternalBlueScreen




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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Jun 2014 23:22    Post subject:
Have they announced who is making the FPS side of the game yet?
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dr-nix




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Jun 2014 06:32    Post subject:
EternalBlueScreen wrote:
Have they announced who is making the FPS side of the game yet?


Nope but i think it's Illfonic


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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Jun 2014 09:29    Post subject:



Hope I will never meet this pilot in combat Neutral


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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Jun 2014 13:03    Post subject:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
Hope I will never meet this pilot in combat Neutral


Don't meet the pilot, BE the pilot! Strive for excellence! HOOAH!


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EternalBlueScreen




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Jun 2014 13:10    Post subject:
Looks like he's good at flying with the automatic systems toggled off to be able to glide forward while facing another direction.
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Kaltern




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Jun 2014 16:48    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
Hope I will never meet this pilot in combat Neutral


Don't meet the pilot, BE the pilot! Strive for excellence! HOOAH!


I wouldn't worry, these skills mean precisely dick when your FPS is less than 30 Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Jun 2014 16:57    Post subject:
Kaltern wrote:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
Silent_Lurker wrote:
Hope I will never meet this pilot in combat Neutral


Don't meet the pilot, BE the pilot! Strive for excellence! HOOAH!


I wouldn't worry, these skills mean precisely dick when your FPS is less than 30 Laughing


Well when you are in the free roam solo thingamajig on medium settings it runs rather ok. So you can practice till 2017 when you have the beast to run it and the game is finally out! Cool Face

The hangar however.... seems no one thinks it needs optimization Crying or Very sad Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Jun 2014 17:02    Post subject:
It's odd... at High quality, I get 60fps in the hanger with no problems - and my specs are not exactly earthshatteringly good.


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EternalBlueScreen




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Jun 2014 18:08    Post subject:
Maybe you are Neo, sent to the matrix to liberate us from the machines.
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Jun 2014 22:39    Post subject:
he does seem to be very good at flying, but (I could be wrong) so does his editing skills as it seemed to me that there were at least 10-20 jump cuts (while flying) first one at 58 secs ..
so I'm guessing this video is more about how beautiful he (or she) finds the game to be, and that any smacking into things would detract from that so they were cut...

Whom ever they are, they are a good deal better at flying than I am... God I do need to get a new HOTAS setup as M&KB skills are Facepalm worthy, or maybe Voiceattack
program so I can talk to the ship instead of fat fingering the wrong keys on the keyboard(that's my story and I'm sticking to it Whistle me elmo )
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