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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 09:33    Post subject:
civ3 was great... however imho civ2 was just a bit better Smile

Still dont get me wrong.. i LOVED civ3... but civ2 was just a tiny bit better....

Civ4 seems to have the best of both rolled into 1 Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 12:40    Post subject:
Many hardcore Civ fans calls Civ 3 Civ 2.7 because it was only a minor upgrade, while removing some great parts of Civ1/2
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 13:01    Post subject:
Adagio.81 wrote:
Many hardcore Civ fans calls Civ 3 Civ 2.7 because it was only a minor upgrade, while removing some great parts of Civ1/2


i had the same impression of the game. some old mechanics were gone while some new ones were clunky and strange. i think i even played that hideous call to power game more than vanilla civ3. however after letting the game rot on a shelf for yrs, downloading the rise and rule mod made me pick it up again and give it another chance. i couldnt believe how much more epic the game became with that mod. thats part of the reason i have such lofty expectations for this game...if ppl could mod civ3 which never promised any moddability to make it 100 times better, then just think what they could do with a game that is already looking to be outstanding, with plenty of support for modding...my brain goes numb at the possibilities...
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 13:08    Post subject:
But considering the problems that arised during the development of Civ 3 it's understandable. AFAIK half the team that was working on Civ 3 left before they were even half-done with the game, while the deadline for the game remained the same. This time they have a much larger team, and not it's Firaxis who owns the rights for Civilization, so they had more to say about it Smile
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PostPosted: Sun, 23rd Oct 2005 20:08    Post subject:
Civ4 will be definately better. Some of you mentioned that some games don't "feel" good when changed from 2D into 3D, but I think that's not the case: not only the 3D part of Civ4 seems to be so well defined, but you can play the game with a "2d" aspect if you wish it (there's a video showing this, and it looks exactly as Civ3 with better graphics).

Civ4 has a huge community, and one thing that I pretty much liked about the developing team is that they sent a copy of the game to every "community leader". And I must say that I read all previews that I could find, and none of them mentioned nasty bugs that made the game unplayable (like in Bw2).

The decision to make all "game internals" coded by Python (a free programing language) will allow the modders to change almost 100% of the game. Some people started messnig around with Python months ago, just to get a glimpse on what to expect when Civ4 is out.

Simply put, this is a game worth buying for sure. I can't think about a game with more replayability than the Civ series, not to mention the possibilities of mods.

I couldn't pre-order it because of lack of $$$, but since I will want to play it online (and I'm sure it will have some kind of serial k), I'm already saving some bucks to buy it later.

Just... can't.... wait...

I just can't understand why Civ4 has not that much hype as Quake4. I didn't even consider downloading Quake4 because the history is so dumb and it was obvious that it would be a clone of Doom3. But Civ4 is a long waited sequel, and it has so many improvements that I expected more people drooling about it.

Cheers.
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Oct 2005 10:22    Post subject:
Became a fan of the civ series when i first played civ2 on the PSX (didnt had a PC back there)
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Oct 2005 10:46    Post subject:
Myst112 wrote:
Became a fan of the civ series when i first played civ2 on the PSX (didnt had a PC back there)


How do you play CiV with a joypad?


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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Oct 2005 10:48    Post subject:
it was hard at first, but then it became like a mouse, i also played Red Alert and UFO games on PSX using a joypad, no problems Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Oct 2005 16:39    Post subject:
Myst112 wrote:
it was hard at first, but then it became like a mouse, i also played Red Alert and UFO games on PSX using a joypad, no problems Smile


RED ALERT with joypad?? Them , it must have been pain in the ass Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Oct 2005 16:43    Post subject:
Jh00 wrote:
Civ4 will be definately better. Some of you mentioned that some games don't "feel" good when changed from 2D into 3D, but I think that's not the case: not only the 3D part of Civ4 seems to be so well defined, but you can play the game with a "2d" aspect if you wish it (there's a video showing this, and it looks exactly as Civ3 with better graphics).


That was my main concern ...will the gameply will be ruined by "transform everything in 3D graphics " syndrom...I quit worried after I saw that IGN review game is really nice ..but CIV series has a MAJOR PROBLEM! You just cant stop playing , its addictive like crack Razz
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Oct 2005 17:03    Post subject:
Cant wait to build my totalitar fascistic empire , ruled by me & secret police Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Oct 2005 17:14    Post subject:
2 lbs of cofee: check!
1 lb tobacco: check!
2 weeks worth of microwavale food: check!
prepared to flunk majority of exams: check!

That about covers it. I'm prepared!
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PostPosted: Mon, 24th Oct 2005 17:19    Post subject:
The game even has a built in alarm clock lmao...

So when your in a coma from playing civ4 for 19 hours straight u can fall asleep at your desk and the game can wake you up again lolz
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PostPosted: Tue, 25th Oct 2005 03:01    Post subject:
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hahaha what the fuck

http://www.civanon.org/home.shtml


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Oct 2005 14:43    Post subject:
Wow look here, screenies! Wink
http://www.civforum.de/showpost.php?p=752583&postcount=272


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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Oct 2005 14:43    Post subject:
Something to read while waiting...interesting 4 page walkthrough by a CIV4 tester:
http://www.kalikokottage.com/civ3/sullla/civ4_walk_1.html
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PostPosted: Wed, 26th Oct 2005 18:21    Post subject:
I have the game now, bought it today in EB... not sure what the protection is though. Played about an hour now... its worth a buy. If your a fanatic like I am, little biased I guess. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 02:22    Post subject:
im too scared to start playing this again.. or i will never stop Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 03:42    Post subject:
lol, yea i love round based strategy games, the only real strategy games around basically,
rts is more about who s faster at building units.


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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 12:25    Post subject:
brought this thread from 8 to 4 pages...I could not be arsed to delete more since it was just too much. *sigh*


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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 13:00    Post subject:
hehe i love this game.
hey ghandi, how about we start a trading relationship, i ll build roads to your kingdom.
ok so here i am now at your territory with a whole army, know what ghandi, fuck you.
if you give me all your resources i will maybe abstain from crushing your domain.
thx, but ya know its alot more fun seeing you get served so prepare to get annihilated.
so many secret fantasies you can live through with this game, even conquer the world with the great empire of bosnia Very Happy

the only kinda stupid thing are some of these victory conditions, like for example, cultural victory or "who s gonna fly to alpha centauri first" victory.
it seems kinda stupid to end a session like that, i dont know who would play with these rules.


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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 13:11    Post subject:
Conquest 100% baby Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 14:43    Post subject:
definitely, becoming leader of the free world after establishment of the un isnt bad either,
but there s nothing like stretching your borders across the globe while leaving destruction Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon, 2nd Jan 2006 15:41    Post subject:
Civilization.IV.Update.1.52-RELOADED
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