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Raccoon
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@Badrien That's interesting. I've read your entire post, and...
| Quote: | | I had a big falling out with my parents at age 17, at which I had the choiche to get diagnosed/seek help or gtfo out of the house. |
Yeah, there's something about Asperger's Syndrome that makes you not want to leave home for some reason at some point. It's not necessarily social anxiety. Rather, as you mentioned it yourself, the notion of feeling like alien living among some different species. Especially the lack of hope that one day being able to fit is possible, being like them, being one of them.
Additionally, there's always the time period (around early 20's) when it's extremely hard to decided who you want to be; what you want to do. Some sort of identity crisis.
Nevertheless, that falling out ultimately led to good thing - receiving a diagnosis. Being able to understand yourself better. 
| Quote: | Took a few months to get everything sorted and have my Diagnoses at 18 (Aspergers Syndrome + A mild case of OCD). Been in therapy for it for a while but the mental health care here really lacks in its understanding as well as treatment of aspergers..
The anti psychotics were living hell, taking out all the good parts of the aspie and amplifying the bad parts. |
I hate psychiatrist with passion because I consider most of them idiots. And... they never cease to amaze me. Every physician prescribing anti-psychotics for OCD should officially be proclaimed idiot.
You most likely only became ... numb. Lacking any live-energy. With stiff mind.
| Quote: | The only self medication solution I have found thusfar that makes me able to live my life properly is weed, which will probably sound strange lol.
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It's not strange - weed gives you serotonin, which helps for your OCD. Maybe you should consult some proper psychiatrist and talk a bit about SSRI pills. To be perfectly honest, though - I'm not sure which one is better/healthier in your case. 
If you really like smoking weed and you think it helps you; who am I to judge you and tell you what to do. 
| Quote: | | Not being very popular |
Haha!  Not being popular is the pain in the ass. I had this myself.
What's interesting (and painful) difference between Asperger's and, for example, High-functioning Autism is that Aspies crave for having contact with other people. Unfortunately, they can't do it. So they suffer. And wonder all the time why it's so easy for others.
I think it's a great thing you found groups of like-minded people to hang out with. A lot better thing to do than trying to fit "the most popular kids" group. (That idiot from Santa Barbara fell for that trap.)
| Quote: | | and have been in business for myself for about a year now, things couldnt be going better really. Im doing what I like, and making enough to live like a king doing so. |
And what are you doing? I'm curious, and you haven't specified.
| Quote: | | Ive had 1 short semi succesfull relationship, with a fellow aspie. we decided to cut that off after a while as we valued our friendship more then a relationship which would have destroyed that friendship eventually. |
Hmmm... That's kinda sad. Isn't it that two fellow Aspies can understand one another intuitively, just like two neurotypical people understand each other?
| Quote: | | I still want to get that psychology degree at some point, |
Oh, go ahead. World needs more Aspie psychologists. Even Tony Attwood said so.
That way there would more understanding... and less idiots confusing Asperger's with schizophrenia (well, psychosis for that matter); and less idiots prescribing anti-psychotics for OCD.
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Morphineus
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How I dislike the word Aspie...
Not only because it's yet another word to point out and highlight a difference, but also because it sounds retarded.
Coming from a fellow 'Autie' 
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Badrien
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| Posted: Tue, 27th May 2014 23:40 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Yeah, there's something about Asperger's Syndrome that makes you not want to leave home for some reason at some point. It's not necessarily social anxiety. Rather, as you mentioned it yourself, the notion of feeling like alien living among some different species. Especially the lack of hope that one day being able to fit is possible, being like them, being one of them.
Additionally, there's always the time period (around early 20's) when it's extremely hard to decided who you want to be; what you want to do. Some sort of identity crisis.
Nevertheless, that falling out ultimately led to good thing - receiving a diagnosis. Being able to understand yourself better. |
Actually I was quite eager to get out of the house. I had just returned from failed living on my own(with my then evil whore of a gf) to home. But lacked the financial equity to get a place of my own. So it was litterally the streets or therapy. Mind you I grew up with 3 sisters, as much as I was a hell to grow up with, growing up with 3 shouting women and 2 barking dogs isnt exactly easy for someone who has trouble with sensory overloads.
| Quote: | I hate psychiatrist with passion because I consider most of them idiots. And... they never cease to amaze me. Every physician prescribing anti-psychotics for OCD should officially be proclaimed idiot.
You most likely only became ... numb. Lacking any live-energy. With stiff mind. |
Afters years of dealing with them I have to say I share that passion, not so much for the field itself as the half assed way its handled over here(Mental health care in general)
The anti psychotics were described mostly for the aspergers. Been trough a range of dem ending with peridol or idol, also Abilify comes to mind as one I was put on. The OCD was pretty minor at that age(it has been progressing steadily sine that time though, an has come to the point now where its starting to get somewhat debilatating. I keep convincing myself its getting less though and at times it is. I think I waste about 15/20 minutes on my OCD daily now , so quite managable still. Its just a very debilitating thought. I know what im doing is irrational, yet my brain wont let me proceed without doing said irrational repetative acts)
What they did I can best describe as tunnel vission, like going trough live with 2 toiletroll cartons strapped before my eyes. It totally elimated any interesnt I had in anything, since it destroyed my analytic capabilities. Became a zombielike drone, grades dropped etc. after about little over a year of various medications I decided to cut that shit.
It was only a year and it has left me with seriously damaged teeth(see my bitching thread from a few months ago lol) and considerable damage to my stomach and stomach lining. I can only imagine what people that take this shit each day for years end up like.
| Quote: | | It's not strange - weed gives you serotonin, which helps for your OCD. Maybe you should consult some proper psychiatrist and talk a bit about SSRI pills. To be perfectly honest, though - I'm not sure which one is better/healthier in your case. |
I think ive tried those at one point, but I decided a long time ago that I would rather medicate myself with natural herbs and plants than with all the chemicals they tried pumping into me. (just on this case though, im definitaly not one of dem alternative medicine people)
The weed helps me with my aspergers, and Psilocybin mushrooms (or truffles rather) do wonders for my OCD( 40-100% remission/reduction in YPOCS score). Just havent been able to do mushrooms for few years now since the last time I apparently stopped breathing a bit too often. As I was diagnosed with sleep apnea a few months not surprising. I have been trying to build up the courage to go for another trip, specially since my OCD has been acting up more and more as of late. This summer perhaps.
| Quote: | Haha! Not being popular is the pain in the ass. I had this myself.
What's interesting (and painful) difference between Asperger's and, for example, High-functioning Autism is that Aspies crave for having contact with other people. Unfortunately, they can't do it. So they suffer. And wonder all the time why it's so easy for others.
I think it's a great thing you found groups of like-minded people to hang out with. A lot better thing to do than trying to fit "the most popular kids" group. (That idiot from Santa Barbara fell for that trap.) |
It wasnt until High school that I started developing a craving for social interaction, I had been mostly a loner during grade school. A big breaktrough there was meeting my best mate at introduction day for the IS/IB After grade school. It was like the bromance version of love at first sight lol. Our tight bond attracted other likeminded people(eg gamers/magic nerds) and the first webs of my social web were spun. At some point in the 2nd year he migrated to aruba and my other 2 gamer mates were booted out off school for being lazy tards.
Finding myself in social isolation once again I started hanging out with the goth kids and started looking the look, which ofcourse came with the neccesary worrying in my family(Omg makeup hes gay, omg long hair hes a hippie etc etc) Now in hindsight wearing makeup as a dude was pretty gay, but it was the hip thing to do at the time.
Was still always the odd one out till one day I joined this pretty girl to the local youth centre and smoked my first pot(I had done spacecake the year prior which was an awesome experience, but I knew little of the world of alcohol and drugs at that time). After breaking trough the initial highness it was like a whole new world opened up to me, I was able to focus on a single conversation in a group of conversations and be able to converse in proper fashion but also register and process most of the other conversations taking place around me. I had always been a decent student(7s/8s) never had much trouble with the questions, but a fly in the class or the overseer walking around the littlest things would get me out of my concentration. When I started smoking up I immediatly went all in with it and was pretty much stoned 7 days a week, yet I was functioning better than ever before. Social skills developed more in those 2 years than they had the 16 years prior, was able to concentrate on things for hours straight and just be in the zone without anything able to distract me.
All this also made it tougher and tougher for me to live at home, in a small(ish) house with 6 people. I spent most my time alone in my room or outside with my dogs(at the time I felt like my dogs were my the only family members that understood me) time not spent in either of those 2 places was spent arguaing with my siblings or parents. They did alot of things that did not compute for me, little things in everyday live I mean, and in my inability to understand these things I could come off as very hostile, which then snowballed as my sisters (except the youngest one) pretty much hated me at the time and would always respond pretty bitchy, to whom I wouldnt respond kindly either. It hardly ever got physical though, dont want you to get the wrong idea. And when it did it was always more corrective then I meant actual harm if you know what I mean. But yeah the stress of living in such an active and noisy enviroment really took its toll on me at the time, which lead to the ultimate diagnosis(but it was something as I explained before I pretty much already knew I had going in before even talking to the first psych)
| Quote: | | And what are you doing? I'm curious, and you haven't specified. |
I dabble in Internet marketing and SEO
| Quote: | Oh, go ahead. World needs more Aspie psychologists. Even Tony Attwood said so.
That way there would more understanding... and less idiots confusing Asperger's with schizophrenia (well, psychosis for that matter); and less idiots prescribing anti-psychotics for OCD. |
I couldnt agree more, but unless I have the money for a solo practice/research I would never even get close with that degree. Ill be lucky to land the job of the people that have been trying to 'help' me, and those people are tied down by protocol and rules, all they do is either go off a checklist of predetermined shit or cram pills down your throat. Not my cup of tea
| MORPHINEUS wrote: | How I dislike the word Aspie...
Not only because it's yet another word to point out and highlight a difference, but also because it sounds retarded.
Coming from a fellow 'Autie' |
I agree, but I really dont have a better word for it. And as long as I stick to the general accepted 'terminology' others wont be confused I guess. Lets just say I wouldnt refer to myself as an aspie in a non interwebs situation.
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Raccoon
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Raccoon
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| Posted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 23:48 Post subject: |
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While browsing the web in order to get some information regarding the prevalence of clinical depression symptoms among the individuals with Asperger's Syndrome, I've managed to eventually stumble upon a very interesting infographic.
Neurotypical folks, when it comes to facing depression, tend to concentrate the most on feelings/emotions and bad mood in general. It doesn't appeal that much to folks with Asperger's because their emotional side usually isn't the strongest part of them. Nor expressing it verbally isn't desirable in any way. (Let's face it.) Moreover, the feelings quite often are being rationalized; whereas the belief system and thinking patterns are extremely rigid at the same time.
In other words - neurotypicals are easier to be influenced by compassionate attitude shown by other person (psychotherapist for that matter). Aspies ( ), on the other hand, require lots of logic, rationality, and sense to talk them out of a depression - since they process information entirely different.
This infographic was created by an individual with Asperger's Syndrome suffering from clinical depression. And is destined to be viewed by similar-minded people.
Additionally, it's quite witty. Whereas the corporate-like orientation only makes it easier to understand.
I really like it! I consider it informative and useful, hence I'm sharing it with men.
Source: http://theinvisiblestrings.com/depression-inc-autism-spectrum-disorder-depression-part-3/
"Anatidaephobia is the fear that somewhere in the world there is a duck watching you."
Fuck Polish government for oppressing women!
"People are such awful conversationalists that they’ll interrupt you when you’re answering a question they asked."
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I love depression, had it for years, never gonna get better, but my medication makes me happy.
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Raccoon
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