motherfuckers (copyright trolling)
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2014 16:43    Post subject:
Neon wrote:
Downloading movies/games/mp3s is legal in Poland, sharing is not.

If you use private trackes, Usenet, http downloads, P2M etc, you're safe.

If you download shitty Polish movies on TPB, there's a slight chance you'll get in trouble.

For what it's worth, I download all my TV series from TPB and never had any trouble, so what you're faced with is probably some overzealous law firm Laughing

I would ignore the letter if I were you. Wink


not entirely true. In Poland: You can download movies, mp3s media and shit and you can't get charged. It's different with software ( games, programs): it's illegal and you can get charged.
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2014 16:47    Post subject:
JBeckman wrote:
Ragedoctor wrote:
Look this won't ever go to court, any European judge will laugh them out of the courtroom. Persecuting private individuals who only p2p download like normal people is absolutely not-done. They like to call this proportionate measures. The only people they will actually take to court are people who are sharing terabytes and actually actively upload (IE mass seeders etc).

EDIT: Then again this is Poland, eastern Europe has its oddities. Laughing


I agree, though how much is ~200 US dollars in Poland anyway, probably not enough of a profit to build a case out of or how to say. Very Happy
(To Polish people? To Poles??, do you call Polish people Poles in the first place??? - Actually I think it's Pollacks - Polacker in Swedish - or some such term, I probably spelt it wrong but auto-correct in the browser didn't complain.)

(Prosecuting some lone individual won't really give much either way unless as stated above he's sharing tons of data - or selling, that usually gets them really active - so they can sue to tons of money or however it works in today's media industry.)


yeah, they won't because there's too many people, it's costs too much and it's very hard to prove. It's the case led by the prosecutors office i'm afraid of, I can get summoned to testify or get my pcs/hard drives taken.
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Newty182




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2014 17:42    Post subject:
I think it's when you admit to it that you could have a problem, because then the law firm doesn't need to find evidence of your guilt as you have given it to them, easy win in court. Just bin the letters.


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bloodian




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2014 18:17    Post subject:
that's exactly what common sense and "my" lawyer says.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2014 22:01    Post subject:
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2014 06:56    Post subject:
yep, exactly.
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bloodian




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PostPosted: Fri, 18th Jul 2014 21:50    Post subject:
What the fuck.

It turns out that some other vultures made an offer to an AMERICAN producer and people who downloaded movies like Dallas Buyers Club get the same letters.

that's fucked up.

POLISH:

http://technologia.dziennik.pl/internet/artykuly/464921,piraci-na-celowniku-voltage-pictures-sciagnales-witaj-w-klubie-i-najwyzszy-wyrok.html
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Raccoon




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jul 2014 13:43    Post subject:
@bloodian And what happened with the letter you received? Were there any consequences?

Have you been visiting the prosecutor's?


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bloodian




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Jul 2014 16:38    Post subject:
Raccoon wrote:
@bloodian And what happened with the letter you received? Were there any consequences?

Have you been visiting the prosecutor's?


Nothing happened yet.
I'm visiting a polish forum about law where people talk about their experiences. Some people were summoned to the police stations to got questioned but that's it.

When people are going to start getting raided I'll be warned thanks to internet.

Besides I've encrypted the shit out of all of my partitions so they can't do shit besides taking my computers for 6months - 1 year.
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Raccoon




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jul 2014 22:05    Post subject:
Damn, I'm now simply scared to download movies from torrents. Sad

I hope this copyright trolling is just a temporary thing; a fad that will go away eventually.

If they were to prosecute all the people who had downloaded those 'black-listed' movies, Polish justice system would basically become stalled. (It's already in a hardly efficient state.)


"Anatidaephobia is the fear that somewhere in the world there is a duck watching you."

Fuck Polish government for oppressing women!

"People are such awful conversationalists that they’ll interrupt you when you’re answering a question they asked."
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Bob Barnsen




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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Jul 2014 22:38    Post subject:
Raccoon wrote:
Damn, I'm now simply scared to download movies from torrents. Sad




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bloodian




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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jul 2014 08:58    Post subject:
Bob Barnsen wrote:
Raccoon wrote:
Damn, I'm now simply scared to download movies from torrents. Sad




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of course you have nothing to fear about if :

1. you don't care about police taking your computer for over a half a year (speed of scanning a disk in poland)

2. you have 0 illegal software at home.
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Morphineus
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PostPosted: Mon, 21st Jul 2014 13:03    Post subject:
Then stop fucking around on public trackers


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