Pro Evolution Soccer 2015
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jul 2014 11:28    Post subject:
Leaked gameplay video from the early build:

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matta666




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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jul 2014 11:49    Post subject:
I think if this game had solid net code the devs would be singing from the rafters tbh. Pass Sad
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jul 2014 21:50    Post subject:
Judging from the video, looks like the pace has gotten very FIFA-like, with speeded-up passing and lots of first touches. I'm not a big fan of this change to be honest, but if it means that the annoying latency issue is completely gone, then it's fine. Razz The rest is identical to PES 2014 from what I can see.

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Another proof that they're copying EA: http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/pes_2015/news/pes_2015_to_introduce_microtransactions_with_myclub.html Cool Face
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fearwhatnow




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jul 2014 11:31    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Judging from the video, looks like the pace has gotten very FIFA-like, with speeded-up passing and lots of first touches. I'm not a big fan of this change to be honest, but if it means that the annoying latency issue is completely gone, then it's fine. Razz The rest is identical to PES 2014 from what I can see.

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Another proof that they're copying EA: http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/pes_2015/news/pes_2015_to_introduce_microtransactions_with_myclub.html Cool Face


It's HUMvsHUM and they're playing on default speed with full support in passing and shooting. That's why you see this ping-pong Fifa-esque gameplay. I don't see any difference too between this and PES 2014. GK's are still, how to say it...passive? I prefer KONAMI going all the way back and make them superhuman again. I really don't understand why they can't fix the GK's.
Still Fox engine is better than Ignite. They need to fix the transitions between animations though. This is easy to be done also but either they're too lazy or they're just mediocre programmers. The game still feels more organic than Fifa which you need to heavily mod to be playable.
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jul 2014 21:17    Post subject:
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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jul 2014 21:34    Post subject:
http://www.xboxachievements.com/news/news-18617-PES-2015-Was-Only--75% done--Konami-Admits--Looking-to-Recapture-PES-6-Magic-For-PES-2016.html
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fable2




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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jul 2014 23:40    Post subject:
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in PES 14, you had to think two seconds before you were going to do something because the animation would play out, and that's not PES.


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The most basic thing for me is, in PES, when I played it, 1) super responsive and 2) left stick dribbling and R2 stop; this feeling that I didn't need a trick stick or needed to do tricks to beat a player


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The final thing is not scoring the same goal twice. That was so important to me in PES


if his words are true, then i might give this year's PES my time.
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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Aug 2014 22:26    Post subject:
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Sat, 9th Aug 2014 22:45    Post subject:
Looking good! Great animations there Very Happy
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Sohei




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Aug 2014 00:51    Post subject:
Animations where not bad in the last one either, i really hope they improve shooting this time, so that theres a real sense of power on the shots.
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Aug 2014 01:03    Post subject:
Shooting was kinda fixed with mods, but there were tons of other shitty things in need if a fix


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ixigia
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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Aug 2014 01:32    Post subject:
The fact that the lack of responsiveness that was affecting PES2014 is supposedly gone is already a positive thing (no more predetermined on-rail movements would be great also), if they manage to fix the horrible GKs' AI as well, and improve shooting/headers, I'm good. Don't expect much from the visuals, but that's not a problem.
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dannofdawn




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PostPosted: Sun, 10th Aug 2014 01:49    Post subject:
I really liked 2014 for the first few months, but now I just despise it.

The biggest problem really is the responsiveness. Then there's crosses. Maybe its just me, but of all the hundreds of hours I put into this game, I've yet to score from a cross with a header. With low cross I could at least trap, turn then shoot (no first time shot in 2014). With a high cross, even if I win the header, it will always go high. If I do press triangle to force it to head low, it is free for the goalie.

Another problem I have that also really ruined it for me was how weak both curved shots and long shots are. The goalies aren't very good when it is a shot from inside the box, but outside? They could stop any long shots that aren't heading for the corners. Except to actually get them to the corners is really hard and random. I tested it with 99 stats player. Doesn't matter if its auto / semi-auto / manual. It will either miss, or be saved due to lack of pace (with 99 power, really?).

Not that long shots goal never happened to me, I have scored a few, but it is so rare and random that it never feels like a valid choice to make. Easier to just dribble into the box and score.

And the worst problem I have besides responsiveness. The fucking ref. What the fuck this ref. I swear there's some bug with how they detect collision. I could cleanly tackle the ball away, but as long as the opponent trip himself, its a foul for me. Also impeding doesn't seem to be in this game at all. I could burst past a player, but if they stuck their foot in but not able to completely trip me, its no foul.

The game also doesn't have detection for out of bound when goalie catches the ball. I've seen the goalie held the ball and step behind baseline with the ball and no corner was given.
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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 11:16    Post subject:
Demo coming on steam apparently. Game released in November. Demo in September
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madness




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 11:41    Post subject:
Konami Digital Entertainment B.V. has announced it will release a free playable demo of its eagerly-awaited PES 2015 title on September 17th.

http://uk-blog.konami-europe.com/2014/08/13/pes-2015-new-details-announced/

Doesn't say PC though..
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 12:10    Post subject:
on september 17th we already played the fifa demo two weeks and preordered our keys Wink
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freiwald




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 13:12    Post subject:
Janz wrote:
on september 17th we already played the fifa demo two weeks and preordered our keys Wink


they probably don't care anymore because they know they got no chance against fifa anyway.
mod freaks, people stucked at pes6 and people who don't play online will buy it anyway... maybe that is enough for konami.
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The_Zeel




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 13:17    Post subject:
konami should do what they generally do with failing franchises to try to salvage them:
give it to kojima Laughing
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Janz




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 13:30    Post subject:
@freiwald: true, thats the reason why the choosen götze as coverstar in germany Very Happy who would a game with him on the cover? nope nope nope nope

and its a big mistake to release the game late in november, but as u say it seems they dont care
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stwan




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 15:41    Post subject:
Very Happy


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fable2




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 15:49    Post subject:
is that the fifa 14 menu? Laughing
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 20:56    Post subject:
Found some gameplay as well while digging through my bookmarks:


Not bad, looks kinda..Fifa-y Razz
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4treyu




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 21:04    Post subject:
fable2 wrote:
is that the fifa 14 menu? Laughing


Yeah keep trolling you little fanboy Aww Yeah

Looks like all those rumors about Knonami losing the licenses for Champions League, Libertadores, Europa and Sudamericana were all false alarm Very Happy

ixigia wrote:

Not bad, looks kinda..Fifa-y Razz


Don't you scare me like that.

EDIT: Ahhh, just watched the video. Nothing of the sort (pheeeeew). But maybe you were referring to the UI which I admit it's pretty good in FIFA games Very Happy
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 21:59    Post subject:
Haha yeah, was just joking around. The gameplay itself is actually better than I imagined, considering the not-so-positive previews from some time ago. Especially like the randomness and the fact that the ball isn't glued to the players' feet, but it's early to draw conclusions (and most of the improvements need proper testing as usual Very Happy)



Random creations of an insane mind / Screens from Bulgaria [Early Access]


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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Wed, 13th Aug 2014 22:03    Post subject:
Its always the worst players in the world in these gameplay videos, I can't even watch.
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Aug 2014 00:46    Post subject:
i still see some really bad things from pes 2014 here. I bet you can still get only 1 attacking player to make a run. They should just copy the way fifa does it.


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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Aug 2014 03:07    Post subject: I have left.
I have left.
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bruasca




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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Aug 2014 14:10    Post subject:
Unfortunately it still looks like shit animation-wise. The fluidity is simply not there... it doesn't seem like a player is making a nice smooth run and some dribbles... it looks like every move is scripted and then 3-4 scripted moves are badly tied together. The players-on-rails thingy is still there...just watch 1:44 in the video above ... i was really looking forward to this year's installment but...meh.
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kazemaky




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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Aug 2014 14:27    Post subject:
that 1:44 thing is one of the most annoying things that even mods couldnt fix. :/


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ivan1real




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PostPosted: Thu, 14th Aug 2014 18:07    Post subject:
Yeah I thought it was better from the dodgy videos but watching the 60fps gamersyde videos it looks pretty much the same.

Still will wait to try it but its probably going to be another disappointment.
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