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Werelds
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Aug 2014 14:10    Post subject:
Good thing you guys understand how this shit works then Smile

Backlight strobing (ULMB) is flashing at twice the display's refresh rate. If that's 60 Hz, then the backlight strobes at 120 Hz. If that's 144 Hz, the backlight strobes at 288 Hz.

With VRR (variable refresh rate, which is what AS/GS/FS are) there effectively is no predictability to when refreshes happen, so when exactly do you guys propose the strobing happens? It can't be on any fixed interval, because that could lead to a backlight flash happening right _before_ VBLANK. It can't happen at X ms after any VBLANK either, because again, in theory there could actually be a VBLANK at that moment in time.

It's actually quite a complex issue, the two just aren't easy to combine. There's nothing insulting about it, unless you have a genius idea to solve the timing issues, which means you should join one of these companies and make lots of money Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Aug 2014 14:12    Post subject:
the only thing insulting here is 800 euro for a TN monitor Mind Is Full Of Fuck
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Aug 2014 14:27    Post subject:
No, it's more like choosing which hole to stick your dick into. If you know of a magical way to stick it into multiple holes, I'm sure there are lots of men who'd be interested to hear about it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Aug 2014 14:34    Post subject:
Monitors, refreshrates, hookers and dicks....yup, I can see how those fit together. Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Aug 2014 14:37    Post subject:
Hey, I'm just going with the flow Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Aug 2014 16:08    Post subject:
rgb#000 wrote:
the only thing insulting here is 800 euro for a TN monitor Mind Is Full Of Fuck


Indeed. Im looking to buy 34UM95-P for the about same price. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Aug 2014 18:24    Post subject:
Still no preorder in US Sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 18th Aug 2014 21:45    Post subject:
escalibur wrote:
rgb#000 wrote:
the only thing insulting here is 800 euro for a TN monitor Mind Is Full Of Fuck


Indeed. Im looking to buy 34UM95-P for the about same price. Smile

Any other thoughts about that monitor?
It also caught my interest when I first saw it, but on some levels it does seem like "current gen" (e.g. not 4k)
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2014 10:56    Post subject:
Can't believe you're so excited about such an overpriced piece of crap Prezepraprapzprapeprpzprarezprepram Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2014 11:04    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Can't believe you're so excited about such an overpriced piece of crap Prezepraprapzprapeprpzprarezprepram Sad
Told him Sad


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i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2014 11:47    Post subject:
What about that Eizo 240Hz 24" monitor then in comparison? It's VA instead of TN though it lacks the size and also pixel resolution that this "ROG" gaming monitor offers.
(And it probably works best at 120Hz since it likely uses some method to double that and get 240 but I don't know the technical details on how it works.)

Unsure how important features like G-Sync and that blur reducing technique are as well.
(Although for GSync I believe it had some restrictions and the same goes for that anti-blur feature.)

Come to think of it what is holding back IPS 120Hz anyway? Is it just costs or are the various manufacturers waiting on some other breakthrough like the upcoming OLED?

AMD FreeSync should also be available next year so it'll be interesting to see how that compares and which manufacturers adapt that.
(If Intel adapted it for the IGPU series then that could be quite beneficial to AMD but we'll see what happens, if it's indeed so open.)

Not really planning on switching my own monitor for a few more years myself but it's interesting to see how this development progresses.
(Somewhat interested in the Dell 3014 but the price makes it out of reach currently, better to wait and see what happens these next two - three years I reckon.)
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2014 13:07    Post subject:
Just look at the things Prepozopeope aka Hubertus likes, mostly crap Laughing
WoW, Dragonderps Z, this crap monitor
Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2014 14:02    Post subject:
IPS has some challenges that make high refresh rates expensive to maintain.

OLED's lifespan isn't fit for this scale yet.

As for the FG2421 vs this: it does have higher display lag (doh) than this, but it's still under 1 frame. And for this thing's ludicrous price I would've expected them to at least beat Dell, but their U2414 and U3014 still have less display lag (lag, not response time). Same goes for Benq's gaming monitors.

It's still a ludicrous sum for a stupid TN panel, with two gaming features (G-Sync + strobing) that most people will find out are mutually exclusives only after they've bought it because they don't look beyond the marketing.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2014 22:33    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
Werelds wrote:
Can't believe you're so excited about such an overpriced piece of crap Prezepraprapzprapeprpzprarezprepram Sad
Told him Sad


Oh well. At least you guys will be able to make fun of me all you want! Very Happy Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Aug 2014 22:36    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
It's still a ludicrous sum for a stupid TN panel, with two gaming features (G-Sync + strobing) that most people will find out are mutually exclusives only after they've bought it because they don't look beyond the marketing.


Well luckily for Asus and others there are more than enough gaming retards willing to buy crap like this. Because it was GAEMING in the name.
Dat gaming SSD Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Aug 2014 01:17    Post subject:
Missed the orders again. But was able to Back-Order it. Newegg says it should ship within 3-5 days. Got even 1-day shipping. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Aug 2014 00:58    Post subject:
Preparing for Shipment
Delivery estimate: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 by 8:00pm

Awesome Awesome Awesome


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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Aug 2014 11:08    Post subject:
Now next order atleast 2 x GTX 780Ti to get over 60fps @ 1440p (preferrably 3-way SLI to break 100fps barrier so you can actually enjoy from the "smoothness" of over 60hz)
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Aug 2014 11:36    Post subject:
Am waiting for the 880's. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Aug 2014 04:40    Post subject:
Shipped
Delivery estimate: Saturday, August 30, 2014 by 8:00pm

Nice! Going to get it just in time for a long weekend.

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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2014 15:09    Post subject:
Was just delivered!

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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2014 15:30    Post subject:
Damn. This shit looks so fucking ugly.



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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2014 15:40    Post subject:
Przepraszam wrote:
Damn. This shit looks so fucking ugly.



Oh man... I'm sorry.. but...
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2014 17:59    Post subject:
Enjoy your TN panel, friend.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2014 20:16    Post subject:
GSync is pretty dope. granted I only had limited time to play with it so far but shit kick ass.

Not sure if I can live with TN panel tho.


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