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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2014 07:38    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:
The ending still sucks and completely misses the main point the comics had.

The cartoon sucks.

I would go for dc or tc.
Movie is shallow. Pretty aged fx. No real depth.
It's like watching a 3 hour uwe boll movie. No soul. Just pretty carbon copy shots. And still managing to fuck up the ending.

I'd rather download the motion comic and get the experience that way. Movie is pretty. But it's shit.


I dont agree. I love the movie


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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2014 11:50    Post subject:
Ok getting the release Watchmen.2009.Director's.Cut.720p.BluRay.DTS.264-HiDt is there a better 720p ?
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2014 13:21    Post subject:
No idea but yeah the DC is the best cut. The Black Freighter stuff is better experienced on its own.


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Sep 2014 12:41    Post subject:
I prefer the movies ending over the comics. It makes more sense.


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Sep 2014 13:12    Post subject:
no, it really doesn't. its stupid, an emotionless god who demonstrates time and again he doesnt care one way or another, is suddenly seen as a believable villain to the entire world...

and even then, an enemy that demonstrates he can be anywhere at any time and attack, and fears nothing... yet chooses to go away into voluntary exile? If he actually did intend to wipe out the world, he'd do so immediately... exactly how long would anyone believe that threat to remain credible? My guess is that after a year (TOPS), the governments of the world go 'well.. if he was going to wipe us all out, he'd have done it by now', and then we all go back to being panicky douchebags afraid of each other, rendering the entire plan pointless.


nah, the unified threat of another lifeform that was DIFFERENT to us, that are currently ON THE WAY (with no known timetable for arrival), not only made a lot of sense given the time period the story was set, but i thought it was actually damn clever to unite the world.

Manhattan is potentially a huge threat from the outside perspective, but he's a terrible LONG term threat.


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Sep 2014 13:58    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
no, it really doesn't. its stupid, an emotionless god who demonstrates time and again he doesnt care one way or another, is suddenly seen as a believable villain to the entire world...

and even then, an enemy that demonstrates he can be anywhere at any time and attack, and fears nothing... yet chooses to go away into voluntary exile? If he actually did intend to wipe out the world, he'd do so immediately... exactly how long would anyone believe that threat to remain credible? My guess is that after a year (TOPS), the governments of the world go 'well.. if he was going to wipe us all out, he'd have done it by now', and then we all go back to being panicky douchebags afraid of each other, rendering the entire plan pointless.


nah, the unified threat of another lifeform that was DIFFERENT to us, that are currently ON THE WAY (with no known timetable for arrival), not only made a lot of sense given the time period the story was set, but i thought it was actually damn clever to unite the world.

Manhattan is potentially a huge threat from the outside perspective, but he's a terrible LONG term threat.

The fact that Manhattan doesn't care about humanity isn't known by the public. Same as his decision to leave (which he was already planning to). So the public believe the threat is real.

About things going back to usual business after a year: you can say the exact same about the graphic novel. "Oh look, no aliens attacked us anymore since that one time in NY, fuck it!"

Also, you seem to forget Rorschach's diary.

Despite the flaws the movie has, I really don't get the hate for the ending. To me it feels more like it's just because who directed it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Sep 2014 14:27    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
chiv wrote:
no, it really doesn't. its stupid, an emotionless god who demonstrates time and again he doesnt care one way or another, is suddenly seen as a believable villain to the entire world...

and even then, an enemy that demonstrates he can be anywhere at any time and attack, and fears nothing... yet chooses to go away into voluntary exile? If he actually did intend to wipe out the world, he'd do so immediately... exactly how long would anyone believe that threat to remain credible? My guess is that after a year (TOPS), the governments of the world go 'well.. if he was going to wipe us all out, he'd have done it by now', and then we all go back to being panicky douchebags afraid of each other, rendering the entire plan pointless.


nah, the unified threat of another lifeform that was DIFFERENT to us, that are currently ON THE WAY (with no known timetable for arrival), not only made a lot of sense given the time period the story was set, but i thought it was actually damn clever to unite the world.

Manhattan is potentially a huge threat from the outside perspective, but he's a terrible LONG term threat.

The fact that Manhattan doesn't care about humanity isn't known by the public. Same as his decision to leave (which he was already planning to). So the public believe the threat is real.

About things going back to usual business after a year: you can say the exact same about the graphic novel. "Oh look, no aliens attacked us anymore since that one time in NY, fuck it!"

Also, you seem to forget Rorschach's diary.

Despite the flaws the movie has, I really don't get the hate for the ending. To me it feels more like it's just because who directed it.


its not just about the people, its also about the government, and the major powers (especially the US government) would definitely know something was amiss with manhattan suddenly becoming a threat. You could assume that everything we know about manhattans manner, foreign governments would know as well... plus, to be fair, i think given his tv interview, the public would have an insight into the guys behaviour and indifference as well. The plan was very much about governments and their wars/aggressions as it was about the common people...

disagree that you could say the same about an alien invasion. In the comics, the alien invasion was a coming threat, that people expected would take time to arrive and thus would necessitate planning and a uniting of the world. The world would already know nothing was likely to happen with manhattan if an attack wasn't immediate because he was already a threat that was here and now and there was nothing that could stop him.

the diary is irrelevant regardless of which version (comic or movie) you discuss, since we're talking about the intended plan, not rorschach unexpected undermining it.


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Sep 2014 16:13    Post subject:
Well,as far as I concern nobody,the viewers or the people "living" in watchmen universe knowing the exact "range" of Manhattan's powers.

it's been hinted,few times (in the comics/film) it's has some limits
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so we don't know if really is omnipresent,but close to it he really is.


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Oct 2015 20:49    Post subject:
Snyder has met with HBO to develop a Watchmen TV series. No clue if the idea is to make a prequel, adaptation or sequel of the comic book (or his movie). Also no idea if talks have been positive. All we know is that the meeting took place.

http://collider.com/watchmen-tv-series-hbo-zack-snyder/


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PostPosted: Thu, 1st Oct 2015 23:33    Post subject:
That could be an interesting idea. I'm not familiar with the comic book, but the movie left a positive impression on me, it was something different from the usual superhero tripe and didn't feel stale like most of the Marvel movies do these days. HBO would be the cherry on top of the cake.
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Oct 2015 00:43    Post subject:
A show like that with HBO budget and production values? Bring it on! Actually, I feel Watchmen, with its somewhat different take on the genre would be the perfect superhero show for HBO.

Let's hope it'll turn out to be something more than just a rumour.
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Oct 2015 01:20    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 20:48    Post subject:
There is a rumor that WB are doing a market survey asking people if they would be interested in a faithful adaptation of the graphic novel to a straigh-to-video animated film. You know, a la The Killing Joke etc. http://www.filmbuffonline.com/FBOLNewsreel/wordpress/2017/04/13/warners-animated-watchmen/

The motion comic was 5+ h long, but the live action film was 3h long (in its Director's Cut) and did manage to present the core story (the first 2/3rds are pretty faithful in terms of what one can keep and what they have to leave behind, really).

If they too make it into a 3h film, in 2 1.5h parts, it can work. And bundle it with the Black Freighter as that's already made.

Get The Dark Knight Returns writer and director to make it.

Also:

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The second part of the forwarded questionnaire asked respondents which of several titles from DC Comics and its Vertigo imprint they owned or were familiar with. Among the titles asked about were Moore’s classic 1980s run on the horror series Swamp Thing and his seminal Batman graphic novel, The Killing Joke. Additional titles include the Batman story arc “A Death In The Family,” the graphic novel Batman: The Long Halloween and the series Gotham Academy, the Superman ElseWorlds story Red Sun, the video game-inspired Injustice and their Scooby-Doo science-fiction horror genre mashup Scooby Apocalypse. DC’s Vertigo line was represented on the survey with Fables, Lucifer, iZombie, Hellblazer, Preacher and Sandman.


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"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 22:10    Post subject:
consolitis wrote:

Get The Dark Knight Returns writer and director to make it.


Keep the people who did killing joke away.
Keep the director for TDKR away.

Lousy animations. Horrendous pacing. Fucking boring as god fuck all.
If they're going for a quick cash grab they'll pull a killing joke and fuck it all up.
The motion comic is best. They should just re-create that with higher res scans. Higher quality V/O. And better animation.

That's it.


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PostPosted: Thu, 13th Apr 2017 22:45    Post subject:
The motion comic has inherently a lot worse pacing, because it's not a film. It's 25minsomething chapters. So, no, that's not the answer, unless they are making it into a TV series (which they are not).

As a film, neither the structure nor the pacing, nor the length of the motion comic would work.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Jun 2024 14:11    Post subject:
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Warner Bros. Entertainment has premiered the teaser trailer (in 4K) of its upcoming animated two-film adaptation of Alan Moore and Dave Gibbons’ iconic 1986 graphic novel “Watchmen”.

The CG-rendered new take is rated R and is being described as a “faithful animated adaptation” of the work.


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PostPosted: Fri, 14th Jun 2024 17:33    Post subject:
What a cheap waste of production. Is it identical to the movie visuals because they need to perpetually "make" something from the watchmen novel every few years to retain the stolen publishing rights from Moore?
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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Jun 2024 11:02    Post subject:
It looks very much like the graphic novels, but that makes it completely pointless as well. At least the live action version had live action. Just read the GN.


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PostPosted: Sat, 15th Jun 2024 18:44    Post subject:
Going to give it a try.


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PostPosted: Thu, 17th Oct 2024 09:39    Post subject:
All the previous DC Animated movies looked pretty good art wise, so I am disappointed that what is probably their biggest title most people wanted a proper retelling of, and this is the art style they went with.
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