Women in videogames
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2014 04:49    Post subject:
want to know a real point of view from someone that knows persons in the Independent scene and Real game industry ... female persons ...

over the last days got a few laughs from it ... every one is treated equal in the scene and everyone is the same

so why now , in 2014 we get so many reports of this ... well hmmm did Jade Raymond public face promoting Assassin Creed started it ... and the fallout when fans started to do porno hentai of her ... nope

it all started when no names wanted to be celebs ... Society of YT celebs , Tweeter celebs , Flickt celebs ... even Facebook celebs ... Society of social media celebs ...Society when you become a celeb for a hot sex video or harassment tweet ...

create a fake campaign around you , PR so good that you will be a target for digital social media ... make a troll video , contradicting yourself ... need a good PR for your game ... sleep with the press and then fake your harassment ... be a target ... become a celeb ... become the voice of people .... become a idol for others to idolize you ... become a example for others, to do, as you tell them to do, but not as you do ... Laughing ... become a smoke screen that others use ,to do dirty jobs in your name...

the thing is ... one did this to be a games reporter and the other to hide a 400k TV money heist ... those are taken from two recent examples ... there are more ...


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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2014 12:28    Post subject:
Nalo wrote:
The only woman that survive in these type of films have adopted male characteristics and lost their female qualities. Skinny weaver for example.

BUTCH


Depends, if we're judging on average male characteristics, it's a local thing - for example, the male characteristic in USA is this:



So are you saying that females in games are fat, arrogant, and somewhat unaware of reality?


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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2014 12:43    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2014 13:27    Post subject:
In fiction, absolutely ANYTHING is "plausible".
In reality, the difference between an elite super-trained athlete, male or female ISN'T immense. While, yes, the men in terms of strength and stamina are 10-20% better prepared if we compare the best of the best in the same weight/training class - there are still a lot more factors involved, pain threshold, psyche, education, motivation, morale, etc.

To claim it's not plausible that a woman could be a survivor in an extreme circumstance is pure ignorance and possibly sexist.


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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2014 14:15    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Sep 2014 10:23    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
Someone who is able to treat wounds and stave off infections for example would be more likely to survive in a certain scenario (jungle)


They are training the NAVY SEALS and the Marines to treat wounds and stave off infections. I am pretty sure even the regular army soldiers are going through such training.
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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Sep 2014 15:54    Post subject:
warriormax wrote:
fisk wrote:
Someone who is able to treat wounds and stave off infections for example would be more likely to survive in a certain scenario (jungle)


They are training the NAVY SEALS and the Marines to treat wounds and stave off infections. I am pretty sure even the regular army soldiers are going through such training.


... OK? And... ?


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st Sep 2014 16:02    Post subject:
faminists... how about all men being muscular, handsome and super cool.... like me J Browman


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Sep 2014 12:57    Post subject:
I don't mind the idea of female empowering videogames and characters; just that it strikes me that this isn't the goal of the pro campaigners.

It seems to me that their goal is to create a society where it is deemed immoral to portray women in anything other than a powerful context which is fucking ridiculous.

Games, more and more, just mimic the wider human culture, same as movies.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Sep 2014 14:27    Post subject:
Not a point an opinion based on an observation. If you want to be specific I'd be happy to qualify my thinking,. Thanks awfully nalo
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Sep 2014 14:38    Post subject:
I agree with matta's observation, or rather.. I *share* his observation, in that the overall goal of these radical feminists and SJWs is a society where it's unconscionable to portray any women in any other light than "strong, powerful, independent" and to do so would be to draw ire.

It's ridiculous and so far removed from any reasonable semblance of equality.

IMO of course Wink
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Sep 2014 14:58    Post subject:
For example, Anita was presenting clips of existing games, like Assassins Creed for example where a women gets murdered; she highlights this as mysogynistic and wrong.

So she is basically advocating a society where this would be deemed immoral.


She's not suggesting the creation of powerful female characters; she's infringing on the morality of other artists.

Yeah, imo.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Sep 2014 15:28    Post subject:
No no no, I didn't say all feminists - I specifically said radicals, the internet mouthpieces. I'm *married* to a feminist, a true one, not some hooting dickhole that screams about the patriarchy. There is absolutely nothing shitbags like Anita are doing that is to "raise awareness" - it's to raise her quality of life as thousands of white knights flock to her defence and fund her way through life.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Sep 2014 15:31    Post subject:
I didn't say all feminists, just the opinions of some of the ones i have heard speak out.

Well I wouldn't say 'attacked' but definitely defensive. It's an issue I care about and i'm human.

With regards to Hollywood, however far fetched they are; there is always a kernel of humanity that conceived the story. Even Rambo.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Sep 2014 15:33    Post subject:
Nalo wrote:
Ok cool, my bad. Disregard then! My gf is also a nice type feminist Razz


I would never, not ever, tar all feminists with the same brush - unlike the current SJW movement that has, and does on a daily basis, tar us "gamers". I want equality and I'll back anyone else that does, but people like Anita? Zoe? They don't. They want control and to dictate what the world does in order to satisfy their own agendas.

There's nothing I can do about any of this since any discussion is barred and any attempts to speak out are silenced by supporters. What I *can* do is no longer visit any of these sites and no longer support any indie developers that are involved with IGF.
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