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Well, method #1 hasn't panned out for me. Can someone clarify how to run this with WinXP SP1.
| Quote: | | Don't select any profile. Only enable Buffer Underrun Protection. |
Hmm, don't see any 'profile' option in alcohol.
| Quote: | | When Alcohol request TOC, leave TOC unmodified "First Option" (reccomended choice) |
Never see anything about TOC when burning.
| Quote: | | Run the copy with a cdrom/dvdrom reader. Don't use a burner if it is not a Plextor, in which case you have to use Plextools and use the "Enable Hide CD-R Media" option |
Ok, so does this mean there is no way to play this with a DVD-Writer?
Any suggestions would be great.
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SycoShaman
VIP Master Jedi
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 03:50 Post subject: |
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U CANT RUN SFCURE WITH SP1!....there is no workaround as far as im aware....
as for burning a SF Dvd...I dont think its possible yet.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 04:05 Post subject: |
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I guess I must have downsyndrome but Method 2 says to launch sfdrup to update drivers. Uhmm, and where is file sfdrup? It is not in the tools rar.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 04:16 Post subject: |
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| cybtropic wrote: | | I guess I must have downsyndrome but Method 2 says to launch sfdrup to update drivers. Uhmm, and where is file sfdrup? It is not in the tools rar. |
Heh, someone beat me to the question.. but yeah, where the hell is it? same with sfn.rar
Edit: downloaded sfn.rar from another release. no biggie. but sfdrup still m.i.a
Edit2: http://www.star-force.com/protection/users/ for sfdrvup.
Last edited by SpaceWiz on Sun, 30th Oct 2005 04:27; edited 2 times in total
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 04:17 Post subject: |
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Just so no one loses hope I wanted to post I was able to get the game working, and I didn't have to unplug any of my drives.
I'll try to answer a couple of the questions people asked. Cybtropic, just try to launch the game and it installs the starforce drivers, then you restart your pc and continue following instructions.
As a note, I didn't notice SFN being packaged with this release, so you will need to go download it. Hope this helps.
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Baleur
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Baleur
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 09:02 Post subject: |
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As i tought, works for me same way that SpaceWiz said =)
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 RAM: 4gb Kingmax DDR2 800mhz Video: Asus GeForce 250GTS 1gb Sound: Asus Xonar.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 09:08 Post subject: |
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Can you explain step by step how you did it?
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Baleur
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Location: South Sweden
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 09:12 Post subject: |
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The same way you always do with sfcure, except that you also unplug the IDE cable from your dvd/cd drive.
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 RAM: 4gb Kingmax DDR2 800mhz Video: Asus GeForce 250GTS 1gb Sound: Asus Xonar.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 09:14 Post subject: |
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| BonzoTheDawg wrote: | | Can you explain step by step how you did it? |
Just like the nfo said.. =)
First you need XP SP2.
IDE PCI drivers must be os standard.
unpack itw-tools.rar and run !setup.bat and reboot.
Mount and install.
Try and start the game to get the installation of starforce drivers unless you already have them installed from a previous game.
Skip the update part because drivers are already up to date.
from itw-tools run !start (this will start the starforce "cure")
Then you can either get sfn.rar and run sfnightmare and disable everything accordingly to the nfo or you can physically unplug the drive. I choose the latter one because i think i missed a step in sfnightmare.. i did after all do this in the middle of the night and was pretty out of it.
Start game and enter cdkey and it should work.. mind you that i could not get it working from Alcohol, only from Daemon tools.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 09:15 Post subject: |
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Isn't it more simple to disable the IDE port in the bios?
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 09:17 Post subject: |
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| BonzoTheDawg wrote: | | Isn't it more simple to disable the IDE port in the bios? |
Havent checked my bios lately, but can you disable specifics in bios? Say secondary slave, but i want to keep secondary master.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 09:39 Post subject: |
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| BonzoTheDawg wrote: | | Isn't it more simple to disable the IDE port in the bios? |
starforce nightmare already do that.. but from starforce 3.6 on the protection checks for disabled drives and reenables them... need to unplug manually
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 09:44 Post subject: |
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Hmmz, just to note something more there.. Well basicly for example if you do as the NFO says it works, but on Virtual Device when you have disabled the devices as NFO says the Virtual device has to be on place where the Physical CD/DVD drive you have was before.
Dunno if this info is correct but my sets were G: as Virtual CD drive & H: as Physical and it does not work if H: is disabled and UFO DVD is still on G: drive it has to be changed to H: as replace of physical drive.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 09:48 Post subject: |
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| TheWarlord wrote: | Hmmz, just to note something more there.. Well basicly for example if you do as the NFO says it works, but on Virtual Device when you have disabled the devices as NFO says the Virtual device has to be on place where the Physical CD/DVD drive you have was before.
Dunno if this info is correct but my sets were G: as Virtual CD drive & H: as Physical and it does not work if H: is disabled and UFO DVD is still on G: drive it has to be changed to H: as replace of physical drive. |
Nah, my physical was D: while my mounted is on F:
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 09:51 Post subject: |
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Seems that it doesn't work in Win2000, tried removing the DVD-drive, tried to hide node with SFnightmare.
Tried to change IDE-drivers to Generic drivers, that didn't change much (what does that help anyway?).
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 10:21 Post subject: |
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| SpaceWiz wrote: | | TheWarlord wrote: | Hmmz, just to note something more there.. Well basicly for example if you do as the NFO says it works, but on Virtual Device when you have disabled the devices as NFO says the Virtual device has to be on place where the Physical CD/DVD drive you have was before.
Dunno if this info is correct but my sets were G: as Virtual CD drive & H: as Physical and it does not work if H: is disabled and UFO DVD is still on G: drive it has to be changed to H: as replace of physical drive. |
Nah, my physical was D: while my mounted is on F: |
That's very interesting.. Since none of Starforce 3 games have worked with my systems with out this specific change of drives. Might be that since I always use Virtual Drive as first after HDDs that might cause the problems.. (This is since some Old games doesn't understand 2 CD-Drives). Either way as I said I was just mentioning this because since nothing else worked this got my stuff working good.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 10:59 Post subject: |
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| TheWarlord wrote: | | SpaceWiz wrote: | | TheWarlord wrote: | Hmmz, just to note something more there.. Well basicly for example if you do as the NFO says it works, but on Virtual Device when you have disabled the devices as NFO says the Virtual device has to be on place where the Physical CD/DVD drive you have was before.
Dunno if this info is correct but my sets were G: as Virtual CD drive & H: as Physical and it does not work if H: is disabled and UFO DVD is still on G: drive it has to be changed to H: as replace of physical drive. |
Nah, my physical was D: while my mounted is on F: |
That's very interesting.. Since none of Starforce 3 games have worked with my systems with out this specific change of drives. Might be that since I always use Virtual Drive as first after HDDs that might cause the problems.. (This is since some Old games doesn't understand 2 CD-Drives). Either way as I said I was just mentioning this because since nothing else worked this got my stuff working good. |
Ok, i wouldnt know,. i got harddrives at C:, E:, J: and K: and dvd at D: and virtuals on F:,G:,H:,I:,L: =)
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Myst112
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 13:01 Post subject: |
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Starfoce protection system allways stops responding when its "Checking Disk.." and then it tells me that "The Disk Key you entered doesnt correspond to the disk in the drive. Make sure you use the ciorrect Disk Key" Strange becuase i enterd it like in the nfo. Iv'e started sfcure, unpuged my dvd burner, tryed dtools and alcohol and still the same thing. What else could i try?
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 13:13 Post subject: |
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| Myst112 wrote: | | Starfoce protection system allways stops responding when its "Checking Disk.." and then it tells me that "The Disk Key you entered doesnt correspond to the disk in the drive. Make sure you use the ciorrect Disk Key" Strange becuase i enterd it like in the nfo. Iv'e started sfcure, unpuged my dvd burner, tryed dtools and alcohol and still the same thing. What else could i try? |
Try what TheWarlord said and make your virtualdrive the same unitname as your physical drive usually is.. i'm not sure what good it would do but it obviously worked for him.
And you are sure that sfcure is enabled? if you just run the batfile from windows explorer you wont see if it display any errors, so run the batfile from a command prompt.
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Myst112
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 13:37 Post subject: |
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yes, i tryed changing the drive letters, and sfcure starts succesfuly:
"The StarForce Cure Driver (version 1.x) service was started successfully."
i had the same problem with The Suffering, but games with older SF versions seem to run ok
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 14:11 Post subject: |
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I don't know about UFO (in progress...) but for other SF-Clone this method works greats with my DVD Writer Plextor :
1. Run Alcohol 120% and select Burn Image. Select .mdf file
2. Pick RAW/DAO, 4x speed between writing options
3. Use securom NEW profile (Don't use Securom new 4/5, make sure RMPS is off)
4. When Alcohol request TOC, leave TOC unmodified "First Option" (reccomended choice)
5. Run the copy with a cdrom/dvdrom reader. Don't use a burner if it is not a Plextor, in which case you have to use Plextools and use the "Enable Hide CD-R Media" option
6. Install the game, and reboot if needed (due to starforce drivers)
7. Launch the game and have fun
Maybe with a DVD SF Clone...
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Epsilon
Dr. Strangelove
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 14:13 Post subject: |
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no you can't write raw dvdclone
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 15:13 Post subject: |
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| Jere2k wrote: | Seems that it doesn't work in Win2000, tried removing the DVD-drive, tried to hide node with SFnightmare.
Tried to change IDE-drivers to Generic drivers, that didn't change much (what does that help anyway?). |
you need xp with sp2, as stated in the nfo, and you need that for most sf releases these days.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 16:08 Post subject: |
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YEA its out but better will be if we got fixed exe  !! I hope so they made one soon!!! Thanx guys
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 16:33 Post subject: |
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| mrn wrote: | | Jere2k wrote: | Seems that it doesn't work in Win2000, tried removing the DVD-drive, tried to hide node with SFnightmare.
Tried to change IDE-drivers to Generic drivers, that didn't change much (what does that help anyway?). |
you need xp with sp2, as stated in the nfo, and you need that for most sf releases these days. |
Yeah, that really doesn't make sense.
Could someone explain what it is that requires WinXP and SP2?
Because first of all, i have played other SF-releases and second it doesn't make sense that it needs any kind of update when you remove your drive then revert to generic drivers etc (in other words you're using old shit).
There shouldn't be OS requirements on a release if the original doesn't require it, that's just lame ripping.
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| Posted: Sun, 30th Oct 2005 16:35 Post subject: |
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| Jere2k wrote: | | mrn wrote: | | Jere2k wrote: | Seems that it doesn't work in Win2000, tried removing the DVD-drive, tried to hide node with SFnightmare.
Tried to change IDE-drivers to Generic drivers, that didn't change much (what does that help anyway?). |
you need xp with sp2, as stated in the nfo, and you need that for most sf releases these days. |
Yeah, that really doesn't make sense.
Could someone explain what it is that requires WinXP and SP2?
Because first of all, i have played other SF-releases and second it doesn't make sense that it needs any kind of update when you remove your drive then revert to generic drivers etc (in other words you're using old shit).
There shouldn't be OS requirements on a release if the original doesn't require it, that's just lame ripping. |
ok let's put it this way... atm is possible to choose between 2 options: a- play the game with sp2 b- don't play the game at all. u can add the third one c- buy the game.
your choice
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I just get the "please insert blaha into another drive".. Also the cdkey error of course.
Now i'm off to play. Hope my errorreports can help someone else get this started.
